Information Request re: Zday

[Klaus Devestatorie]

The Pacific finished with just 4 million zombies left over. We've been searching manually for upwards of 6 hours for the locations of the last few. We don't want the result changed or anything, we're thrilled with 1st overall for total survivors; we just want to know where the hell the last 4 million were.

[Flanderlion]

The Pacific finished with just 4 million zombies left over. We've been searching manually for upwards of 6 hours for the locations of the last few. We don't want the result changed to list us as perfect; we just want to know where the hell the last 4 million were.

Those damn four million, we were searching through hundreds of nations in the last half hour, which we managed to wipe out three million, but the final four...

[Klaus Devestatorie]

The Pacific finished with just 4 million zombies left over. We've been searching manually for upwards of 6 hours for the locations of the last few. We don't want the result changed to list us as perfect; we just want to know where the hell the last 4 million were.

Those damn four million, we were searching through hundreds of nations in the last half hour, which we managed to wipe out three million, but the final four...

We actually wiped out four million, and we had a missed zombie empire somewhere that increased the number from three to four.

[Ballotonia]

The stats provided are captured at the moment the region is checked by the system. They're not updated on-the-fly. Since the end of Z-Day is a specific moment in time, and we cannot update all regions in that one same moment, the z-update starts a short moment before Z-Day ends. The order in which all regions are processed is randomized (not the same as the regional daily update order). So while the overall numbers provided are good, there may be small inaccuracies when focusing on details: that last missile/horde/extermination force just may have been missed in the overall tally if one leaves it to the final moment.

The only way around that problem which doesn't involve a major rewrite of the game is to shut the system down for a while to prevent people from doing things, and let the system do all the tallying undisturbed.

Note we can't just run the tally afterwards, as nations have the 'annoying' tendency to move around, be founded, start new regions, etc... It's all very dynamic. Like trying to take a picture of a class of toddlers while a group of clowns is passing by the classroom window...

Ballotonia

[Flanderlion]

The stats provided are captured at the moment the region is checked by the system. They're not updated on-the-fly. Since the end of Z-Day is a specific moment in time, and we cannot update all regions in that one same moment, the z-update starts a short moment before Z-Day ends. The order in which all regions are processed is randomized (not the same as the regional daily update order). So while the overall numbers provided are good, there may be small inaccuracies when focusing on details: that last missile/horde/extermination force just may have been missed in the overall tally if one leaves it to the final moment.

The only way around that problem which doesn't involve a major rewrite of the game is to shut the system down for a while to prevent people from doing things, and let the system do all the tallying undisturbed.

Note we can't just run the tally afterwards, as nations have the 'annoying' tendency to move around, be founded, start new regions, etc... It's all very dynamic. Like trying to take a picture of a class of toddlers while a group of clowns is passing by the classroom window...

Ballotonia

How plausible would it be to have a small amount of downtime after a Z-Day? 'The World Assembly Emergency Management Authority has arrived, and is currently tallying the losses. Please remain calm while this short process is taking place.' It might throw people off for a minute or two, but given it is only one time a year, I think people would understand. Of course I'm a little biased from those damn four million stumblers, whose brethren seemed to have a gift for hiding. Then again, this change would probably only positively impact less than half of nations, and negatively impact every nation online at the end of Z-Day.

Not related:
Clowns - aren't they a little too scary for toddlers? And thanks a ton for the Z-Day, it is my favourite NS event all year, and favourite Halloween event from pretty much any game I have attempted (including Triple A titles).

[Klaus Devestatorie]

The stats provided are captured at the moment the region is checked by the system. They're not updated on-the-fly. Since the end of Z-Day is a specific moment in time, and we cannot update all regions in that one same moment, the z-update starts a short moment before Z-Day ends. The order in which all regions are processed is randomized (not the same as the regional daily update order). So while the overall numbers provided are good, there may be small inaccuracies when focusing on details: that last missile/horde/extermination force just may have been missed in the overall tally if one leaves it to the final moment.

The only way around that problem which doesn't involve a major rewrite of the game is to shut the system down for a while to prevent people from doing things, and let the system do all the tallying undisturbed.

Note we can't just run the tally afterwards, as nations have the 'annoying' tendency to move around, be founded, start new regions, etc... It's all very dynamic. Like trying to take a picture of a class of toddlers while a group of clowns is passing by the classroom window...

Ballotonia

Bummer. Worth checking, I guess. I think a few regions developed scripts for finding zombie details, so that'll be the next step.

[Zemnaya Svoboda]

The stats provided are captured at the moment the region is checked by the system. They're not updated on-the-fly. Since the end of Z-Day is a specific moment in time, and we cannot update all regions in that one same moment, the z-update starts a short moment before Z-Day ends. The order in which all regions are processed is randomized (not the same as the regional daily update order). So while the overall numbers provided are good, there may be small inaccuracies when focusing on details: that last missile/horde/extermination force just may have been missed in the overall tally if one leaves it to the final moment.

The only way around that problem which doesn't involve a major rewrite of the game is to shut the system down for a while to prevent people from doing things, and let the system do all the tallying undisturbed.

Note we can't just run the tally afterwards, as nations have the 'annoying' tendency to move around, be founded, start new regions, etc... It's all very dynamic. Like trying to take a picture of a class of toddlers while a group of clowns is passing by the classroom window...

Ballotonia

Bummer. Worth checking, I guess. I think a few regions developed scripts for finding zombie details, so that'll be the next step.

I do intend to closely analyze The North Pacific and The Pacific (to learn what your advantages were), I'd be happy to share my results.

Edit:

I do have an information request of my own: could we get some sort of bulk downloadable collection of the national and regional z-day graph (data points)? It would be very helpful

[Ballotonia]

Checking the logs a bit, I observe that the small effect I described above did not actually happen in The Pacific.

The nations you are looking for are Infernus AD and Floweys World. EDIT: both were building a zombie empire, so they may have been 'clear' before, and then end up re-infected.

Ballotonia

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Checking the logs a bit, I observe that the small effect I described above did not actually happen in The Pacific.

The nations you are looking for are Infernus AD and Floweys World. EDIT: both were building a zombie empire, so they may have been 'clear' before, and then end up re-infected.

Ballotonia

Cheers. On an unrelated note, if you need any eyeballs, limbs, organs, anything like that, we'll have some excess stock shortly. :v

[Flanderlion]

Checking the logs a bit, I observe that the small effect I described above did not actually happen in The Pacific.

The nations you are looking for are Infernus AD and Floweys World. EDIT: both were building a zombie empire, so they may have been 'clear' before, and then end up re-infected.

Ballotonia

Thanks a ton for closure, although its a bummer we can't blame it on the game rather than on me.

"Those damn 4 million zombies... Whoever finds them first can have my pretitle for a month (as long as I won't get banned for it, can't be NSFW)"
Given you found the final 4 million, do you have a pretitle you want, or should I hand the 'prize' off to someone else?

Thanks again, both to you, and the site team for the event.