Regional Officers

[King Nephmir II]

Looking at the R/D discussion in this thread, it seems to be heavily biased towards natives and defenders with raiders' comments/objections mostly ignored.

Welcome to NationStates Gameplay! Every Gameplay change is implemented this way, from the influence system and founders to ROs. Raiders always adapt and then people ask for more "fixes".

Personally, the only thing I oppose is the ejection rate limit, for the same reasons others have already listed. All other proposed scenarios seem tolerable and definitely somewhat easy to adapt to.

[Guy]

Office names are not permitted where they may be confused with "Founder" or "WA Delegate" is pretty silly. You can have a Vice-Delegate, but not a Delegate-elect?

[Cresenthia]

Office names are not permitted where they may be confused with "Founder" or "WA Delegate" is pretty silly. You can have a Vice-Delegate, but not a Delegate-elect?

Seems unnecessary.

Has anyone thought that 12 might be too many ROs? Maybe there should be a lower limit (perhaps instead.

[Mousebumples]

Office names are not permitted where they may be confused with "Founder" or "WA Delegate" is pretty silly. You can have a Vice-Delegate, but not a Delegate-elect?

Seems unnecessary.

Has anyone thought that 12 might be too many ROs? Maybe there should be a lower limit (perhaps instead.

Depends on how big your region is. We currently have 9 in Europeia (with our 1400 nation population), but we may add more as we explore the different options and the best way to use them for our regional purposes.

[Cresenthia]

Seems unnecessary.

Has anyone thought that 12 might be too many ROs? Maybe there should be a lower limit (perhaps instead.

Depends on how big your region is. We currently have 9 in Europeia (with our 1400 nation population), but we may add more as we explore the different options and the best way to use them for our regional purposes.

I remember there was a discussion about how they could be tied to regional population. That would prevent raiders from flooding a relatively small region with ROs. Perhaps 3 or 4 ROs base, plus one for every x nations in the region.

[King Nephmir II]

My region uses 9. It would only use 7 if there was an option to change or add another Founder/Delegate title though.

12 seems like a bit much, but it leaves some breathing room, especially for granting certain nations more than one title. Also one would assume that future additions to regional controls would make these extra spots more valuable in spreading out powers, especially in larger regions.

[Trotterdam]

The maximum number that anyone could need is probably larger than what's used by the first four people who happen to post in this thread. If two people have already indicated using 9 (and even if that's lowered to 7 with the addition of founder/delegate retitling, that's still more than half of 12), then allowing at least up to 12 seems pretty warranted.

If the concern is just Border Control officers, then those could be given a stricter limit than general officers. Communications and Polls seem like the authorities most worth giving out to a large number of people (in a suitably-inclined region).

[Levivania]

when will the world assembly ban bug be fixed?

[United German Regions]

when will the world assembly ban bug be fixed?

I believe that is off-topic and therefore does not belong in this topic/thread.

[The Blaatschapen]

when will the world assembly ban bug be fixed?

I believe that is off-topic and therefore does not belong in this topic/thread.

You believe it wrong.

There's a bug with border control officers and being banned from the WA. Those officers cannot ban/eject people from the region.

It's a known bug.

[Flanderlion]

I believe that is off-topic and therefore does not belong in this topic/thread.

You believe it wrong.

There's a bug with border control officers and being banned from the WA. Those officers cannot ban/eject people from the region.

It's a known bug.

In all fairness - when this was announced I believe it was said to use the RO's bug thread rather than to clog up this one - so he's semi-right.

viewtopic.php?f=15&t=356822&hilit=ro+regional

On topic - it was discussed earlier but sort of got distracted by other ideas, appointing RO's with the delegates World Assembly powers - as in they can cast the regions votes and approve proposals, either instead of the delegate having the ability, or allowing them simultaneously (so the delegate and the WA RO can both edit the regions vote and approvals - and this option would allow multiple WA RO's if desired).

[[violet]]

when will the world assembly ban bug be fixed?

Now!

Since nations can no longer simultaneously be Delegates and banned from the WA, I've been able to fix this.

[United German Regions]

when will the world assembly ban bug be fixed?

Now!

Since nations can no longer simultaneously be Delegates and banned from the WA, I've been able to fix this.

Well, as soon as I learn of this problem, it is solved...fast action from moderators, good job!

[The Blaatschapen]

Now!

Since nations can no longer simultaneously be Delegates and banned from the WA, I've been able to fix this.

Well, as soon as I learn of this problem, it is solved...fast action from moderators, good job!

Thank you, we do our best

[/shamelessly stealing credit from the admins ]

[Jerma985]

What specific powers does each kind of authority have?

[United German Regions]

What specific powers does each kind of authority have?

Border Control-Ban/Eject Nations and Password regions
Communications-Create Welcome Telegram, Change who can send Recruitment Telegrams, Suppress/Un-suppress posts, Send region wide telegrams
Embassies-Build and Close Embassies, change who in embassy regions can post
Appearance-Can change flag, world factbook entry, tags
Polls-Add and Delete Polls
World Assembly-Approve proposals and shows what the delegate voted to the whole region
Executive-Change regional officers and their powers

*Did I get them all, I feel like I missed a power for one of them?*

[Cresenthia]

What specific powers does each kind of authority have?

Border Control-Ban/Eject Nations and Password regions
Communications-Create Welcome Telegram, Change who can send Recruitment Telegrams, Suppress/Un-suppress posts, Send region wide telegrams
Embassies-Build and Close Embassies, change who in embassy regions can post
Appearance-Can change flag, world factbook entry, tags
Polls-Add and Delete Polls
World Assembly-Approve proposals and shows what the delegate voted to the whole region
Executive-Change regional officers and their powers

*Did I get them all, I feel like I missed a power for one of them?*

Appearance includes getting to pin/unpin dispatches.

[Cresenthia]

Likely bug/bad wording:

When I'm outside of the region as an RO, this messgae is on the region control page:

KAISERREICH has an executive Founder, absent, a non-executive Delegate, and 6 Officers.

Can this be changed to something more logical?

[The Blaatschapen]

Likely bug/bad wording:

When I'm outside of the region as an RO, this messgae is on the region control page:

KAISERREICH has an executive Founder, absent, a non-executive Delegate, and 6 Officers.

Can this be changed to something more logical?

What would you suggest?

[Trotterdam]

What would you suggest?

"KAISERREICH has an executive Founder, an absent non-executive Delegate, and 6 Officers."

[Cresenthia]

What would you suggest?

"KAISERREICH has an executive Founder, an absent non-executive Delegate, and 6 Officers."

And maybe something mentioning that "[Insert Officer position] is currently outside of the region" (since I also hold an officership).

[Guy]

Just to summarize, this seems to be where we're at so far. Subject to further discussion, I imagine implementing these two sometime next month.

Any update on this?

[Cresenthia]

A bug:
When I'm outside a region as an RO (The Black Riders Central Command, and try to banject the founder who is in the region, I am told that the nation is not in the region, and that it will cost 0% of my influence to ban from. When I try to banject myself, who is not in the region I am told that it will cost 100% influence to banject, and 70% to eject. I am presuming that the game is getting this info from Kaiserreich's control page, rather than the other region's.

[[violet]]

KAISERREICH has an executive Founder, absent, a non-executive Delegate, and 6 Officers.

Should be fixed now. The "absent" label for the Delegate was getting appended to the Founder instead. Thanks for the report!

[[violet]]

Just to summarize, this seems to be where we're at so far. Subject to further discussion, I imagine implementing these two sometime next month.

Any update on this?

Still in observation mode, since the worst-case scenarios haven't materialized (so far, at least).

No change to the plan to implement those two proposals, but I'm interested in learning as much as we can from the current situation, and would like any new feedback people have about how their thoughts might have changed after seeing ROs operate in practice for a real length of time.