Inquiry into the possibility of donating to NS

[Sedgistan]

Don't threadjack.

[Wallenburg]

Don't threadjack.

Yes sir, I'll take it to the telegrams.

[Bitely]

Thanks for showing me where to get Max's email address. Though I notice that his site says that he rarely checks it. I'd they're a better way to get a message to him?

[Sedgistan]

Afraid not - that's it. AFAIK, he does check the emails he receives, but is not able to reply to every one.

[Bitely]

Afraid not - that's it. AFAIK, he does check the emails he receives, but is not able to reply to every one.

Oh OK thanks.

[Lord Ravenclaw]

I am strongly starting to get the sense of NS3 2.5 may end up being in the works. In the name of Flemingovia, I hope I've achieved my bucket list and are long gone by the time that happens.

[Reploid Productions]

I am strongly starting to get the sense of NS3 2.5 may end up being in the works. In the name of Flemingovia, I hope I've achieved my bucket list and are long gone by the time that happens.

Again, I wouldn't hold my breath on it. NS2 and Jolt left a pretty sour taste in everybody's mouths.

[Bitely]

I am strongly starting to get the sense of NS3 2.5 may end up being in the works. In the name of Flemingovia, I hope I've achieved my bucket list and are long gone by the time that happens.

Again, I wouldn't hold my breath on it. NS2 and Jolt left a pretty sour taste in everybody's mouths.

I wouldn't be looking to change the game just add funds for code improvements.

[Frisbeeteria]

I wouldn't be looking to change the game just add funds for code improvements.

Somehow I imagine you've got a shopping list, and you would expect some quid pro quo for your 'donation'. We've managed to keep this site free for users for better than a dozen years, and the player-requested changes have always been carefully evaluated for game balance before being added.

Are you willing to make a public pledge that your donation would go towards whatever the Admin team wanted to spend it on, or are you holding out for something specific? If it's the former, then 'bravo to you'. If it's the latter, I'm not interested in standing by while we sell the game to anyone rich enough to buy the stuff they want.

[The Stalker]

You know I have been curious to where all the stamp money goes, since none of the staff get paid. I mean the site ran for years free just off the ads, but with the stamps, I know people who just pour money into that. Like a ton, hundreds of dollars week.

Who gets all that? I bet if people had a choice they would put their stamp money towards paying the technically staff at the very least.

Technical really should be paid, it's the only way the game could move forward. I mean the whole R/D summit changes from two years ago never happened and seems pretty unlikely it will anytime soon at this rate.

[Elke and Elba]

You know I have been curious to where all the stamp money goes, since none of the staff get paid. I mean the site ran for years free just off the ads, but with the stamps, I know people who just pour money into that. Like a ton, hundreds of dollars week.

Who gets all that? I bet if people had a choice they would put their stamp money towards paying the technically staff at the very least.

Technical really should be paid, it's the only way the game could move forward. I mean the whole R/D summit changes from two years ago never happened and seems pretty unlikely it will anytime soon at this rate.

If that's the case, you're asking of a possibility of RP players donating bucket loads of money to fund your R/D game just because you want it. Or else, having people who donate to have a say in what gets done as if they were buying something rather than donating.

Either way, not cool.

[Bitely]

I wouldn't be looking to change the game just add funds for code improvements.

Somehow I imagine you've got a shopping list, and you would expect some quid pro quo for your 'donation'. We've managed to keep this site free for users for better than a dozen years, and the player-requested changes have always been carefully evaluated for game balance before being added.

Are you willing to make a public pledge that your donation would go towards whatever the Admin team wanted to spend it on, or are you holding out for something specific? If it's the former, then 'bravo to you'. If it's the latter, I'm not interested in standing by while we sell the game to anyone rich enough to buy the stuff they want.

I'm interested in actually buying nationstates. but that isn't a bad idea. of course the money would have to go to adding more game enhancements.

[Stalker Queen]

Somehow I imagine you've got a shopping list, and you would expect some quid pro quo for your 'donation'. We've managed to keep this site free for users for better than a dozen years, and the player-requested changes have always been carefully evaluated for game balance before being added.

Are you willing to make a public pledge that your donation would go towards whatever the Admin team wanted to spend it on, or are you holding out for something specific? If it's the former, then 'bravo to you'. If it's the latter, I'm not interested in standing by while we sell the game to anyone rich enough to buy the stuff they want.

I'm interested in actually buying nationstates. but that isn't a bad idea. of course the money would have to go to adding more game enhancements.

Well if you're going that direction then everything's going to be overturned. Everything we've known is going to be destroyed and nothing will ever be the same again. You're going to upset an overwhelming majority just because you want the opportunity to purchase all the rights to a game you barely even know, compared to so many people who have been working hard at what they've got for many, many years. There are people who have been here for over a decade: do you seriously know this game better than those who have seen it develop and blossom for that long?

Do you seriously want us to believe that you're going to help everyone with your cash-lined pockets out of the good of your own heart? Do you seriously think you know best what the community which has been here for so many years wants after only being here for a matter of months, and having only experienced ONE tiny facet of NationStates: drafting World Assembly resolutions? Are you aware that there are roleplayers, raiders, defenders, imperialists, politicians, communities and so many other people besides just the minority that the World Assembly forum consists of?

Do you seriously think you'll be able to keep this game free in the state it is while paying hefty costs, not just in hosting but in so many other needs this game needs to exist in its present state periodically? Do you seriously think that your money's not going to run out to the point that you need to gradually charge more and more premiums to users: barely any of whom who have the wealth that you think they have?

Are you going to liquidate this game upon purchasing its rights just because a few dozen people pissed you off in your early days to spite possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't even know who you? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't care about what the World Assembly thinks? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people that could possibly accept you because they don't care what the World Assembly crowd think?

Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who have made the game as it is walk out the moment you start introducing premiums because you know absolutely nothing about how much hosting a website or any and all of its features actually cost? Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who considered NationStates their home for so much longer than you have even known of this game's existence walk out on you? Are you willing to lose that many customers just because you want to keep your own pockets lined? Are you willing to be even more scorned than you are the moment you introduce those premiums?

Are you ready to face the consequences of your actions?

Are you ready to purchase NationStates?

The moment you make your choice, there's no turning back. Hundreds of thousands of people will be affected by your actions, whether for better or for worse.

Choose wisely.

The moment you start making even the slightest change to NationStates is the moment I will leave forever in protest. And so will potentially hundreds of thousands of others. NationStates is ingenious in its simplicity as a text-based browser game and there are many people inclined to agree with me on this.

Don't. Do. This.

[The Novakian Empire]

I'm interested in actually buying nationstates. but that isn't a bad idea. of course the money would have to go to adding more game enhancements.

Well if you're going that direction then everything's going to be overturned. Everything we've known is going to be destroyed and nothing will ever be the same again. You're going to upset an overwhelming majority just because you want the opportunity to purchase all the rights to a game you barely even know, compared to so many people who have been working hard at what they've got for many, many years. There are people who have been here for over a decade: do you seriously know this game better than those who have seen it develop and blossom for that long?

Do you seriously want us to believe that you're going to help everyone with your cash-lined pockets out of the good of your own heart? Do you seriously think you know best what the community which has been here for so many years wants after only being here for a matter of months, and having only experienced ONE tiny facet of NationStates: drafting World Assembly resolutions? Are you aware that there are roleplayers, raiders, defenders, imperialists, politicians, communities and so many other people besides just the minority that the World Assembly forum consists of?

Do you seriously think you'll be able to keep this game free in the state it is while paying hefty costs, not just in hosting but in so many other needs this game needs to exist in its present state periodically? Do you seriously think that your money's not going to run out to the point that you need to gradually charge more and more premiums to users: barely any of whom who have the wealth that you think they have?

Are you going to liquidate this game upon purchasing its rights just because a few dozen people pissed you off in your early days to spite possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't even know who you? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't care about what the World Assembly thinks? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people that could possibly accept you because they don't care what the World Assembly crowd think?

Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who have made the game as it is walk out the moment you start introducing premiums because you know absolutely nothing about how much hosting a website or any and all of its features actually cost? Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who considered NationStates their home for so much longer than you have even known of this game's existence walk out on you? Are you willing to lose that many customers just because you want to keep your own pockets lined? Are you willing to be even more scorned than you are the moment you introduce those premiums?

Are you ready to face the consequences of your actions?

Are you ready to purchase NationStates?

The moment you make your choice, there's no turning back. Hundreds of thousands of people will be affected by your actions, whether for better or for worse.

Choose wisely.

The moment you start making even the slightest change to NationStates is the moment I will leave forever in protest. And so will potentially hundreds of thousands of others. NationStates is ingenious in its simplicity as a text-based browser game and there are many people inclined to agree with me on this.

Don't. Do. This.

Agree with everything here.

[The Blaatschapen]

I'm interested in actually buying nationstates. but that isn't a bad idea. of course the money would have to go to adding more game enhancements.

Well if you're going that direction then everything's going to be overturned. Everything we've known is going to be destroyed and nothing will ever be the same again. You're going to upset an overwhelming majority just because you want the opportunity to purchase all the rights to a game you barely even know, compared to so many people who have been working hard at what they've got for many, many years. There are people who have been here for over a decade: do you seriously know this game better than those who have seen it develop and blossom for that long?

Do you seriously want us to believe that you're going to help everyone with your cash-lined pockets out of the good of your own heart? Do you seriously think you know best what the community which has been here for so many years wants after only being here for a matter of months, and having only experienced ONE tiny facet of NationStates: drafting World Assembly resolutions? Are you aware that there are roleplayers, raiders, defenders, imperialists, politicians, communities and so many other people besides just the minority that the World Assembly forum consists of?

Do you seriously think you'll be able to keep this game free in the state it is while paying hefty costs, not just in hosting but in so many other needs this game needs to exist in its present state periodically? Do you seriously think that your money's not going to run out to the point that you need to gradually charge more and more premiums to users: barely any of whom who have the wealth that you think they have?

Are you going to liquidate this game upon purchasing its rights just because a few dozen people pissed you off in your early days to spite possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't even know who you? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't care about what the World Assembly thinks? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people that could possibly accept you because they don't care what the World Assembly crowd think?

Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who have made the game as it is walk out the moment you start introducing premiums because you know absolutely nothing about how much hosting a website or any and all of its features actually cost? Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who considered NationStates their home for so much longer than you have even known of this game's existence walk out on you? Are you willing to lose that many customers just because you want to keep your own pockets lined? Are you willing to be even more scorned than you are the moment you introduce those premiums?

Are you ready to face the consequences of your actions?

Are you ready to purchase NationStates?

The moment you make your choice, there's no turning back. Hundreds of thousands of people will be affected by your actions, whether for better or for worse.

Choose wisely.

The moment you start making even the slightest change to NationStates is the moment I will leave forever in protest. And so will potentially hundreds of thousands of others. NationStates is ingenious in its simplicity as a text-based browser game and there are many people inclined to agree with me on this.

Don't. Do. This.

Do you think that Max will just sell the site willy-nilly for a few bucks? To quote Reppy:

While I obviously cannot speak for Max, it's worth noting that I seriously doubt he's interested in selling, especially after the debacle our ill-fated partnership with Jolt turned into.

I'm not saying that it won't happen, but I'll join Reploid in saying that chances are extremely slim, given the history.

[Stalker Queen]

Do you think that Max will just sell the site willy-nilly for a few bucks? To quote Reppy:

While I obviously cannot speak for Max, it's worth noting that I seriously doubt he's interested in selling, especially after the debacle our ill-fated partnership with Jolt turned into.

I'm not saying that it won't happen, but I'll join Reploid in saying that chances are extremely slim, given the history.

Well given that Bitely's spent so much money on stamps to campaign for his proposals -- despite fierce opposition -- and purchased adspace, who knows how much money he has on his person? He even mentioned four-figure amounts of money to donate to NationStates:

Thanks for the reply. I'm not referring to the small tips one would give NS by buying stamps ect.
I was thinking of something more in the $XXXX range.

We don't know how much money Bitely has on his person and, if he bids high enough, then it becomes uncertain as to whether the offer will become "too good to refuse". And given that Bitely has asked for Max's contact details with the intention to contact him about such a purchase, then his intentions are crystal clear that he wants to purchase the rights to NationStates.

[Land filled with People]

Do you think that Max will just sell the site willy-nilly for a few bucks? To quote Reppy:

While I obviously cannot speak for Max, it's worth noting that I seriously doubt he's interested in selling, especially after the debacle our ill-fated partnership with Jolt turned into.

I'm not saying that it won't happen, but I'll join Reploid in saying that chances are extremely slim, given the history.

^^^^^This.

Have some faith in Max.

[Bitely]

Well if you're going that direction then everything's going to be overturned. Everything we've known is going to be destroyed and nothing will ever be the same again. You're going to upset an overwhelming majority just because you want the opportunity to purchase all the rights to a game you barely even know, compared to so many people who have been working hard at what they've got for many, many years. There are people who have been here for over a decade: do you seriously know this game better than those who have seen it develop and blossom for that long?

Do you seriously want us to believe that you're going to help everyone with your cash-lined pockets out of the good of your own heart? Do you seriously think you know best what the community which has been here for so many years wants after only being here for a matter of months, and having only experienced ONE tiny facet of NationStates: drafting World Assembly resolutions? Are you aware that there are roleplayers, raiders, defenders, imperialists, politicians, communities and so many other people besides just the minority that the World Assembly forum consists of?

Do you seriously think you'll be able to keep this game free in the state it is while paying hefty costs, not just in hosting but in so many other needs this game needs to exist in its present state periodically? Do you seriously think that your money's not going to run out to the point that you need to gradually charge more and more premiums to users: barely any of whom who have the wealth that you think they have?

Are you going to liquidate this game upon purchasing its rights just because a few dozen people pissed you off in your early days to spite possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't even know who you? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't care about what the World Assembly thinks? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people that could possibly accept you because they don't care what the World Assembly crowd think?

Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who have made the game as it is walk out the moment you start introducing premiums because you know absolutely nothing about how much hosting a website or any and all of its features actually cost? Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who considered NationStates their home for so much longer than you have even known of this game's existence walk out on you? Are you willing to lose that many customers just because you want to keep your own pockets lined? Are you willing to be even more scorned than you are the moment you introduce those premiums?

Are you ready to face the consequences of your actions?

Are you ready to purchase NationStates?

The moment you make your choice, there's no turning back. Hundreds of thousands of people will be affected by your actions, whether for better or for worse.

Choose wisely.

The moment you start making even the slightest change to NationStates is the moment I will leave forever in protest. And so will potentially hundreds of thousands of others. NationStates is ingenious in its simplicity as a text-based browser game and there are many people inclined to agree with me on this.

Don't. Do. This.

Do you think that Max will just sell the site willy-nilly for a few bucks? To quote Reppy:

While I obviously cannot speak for Max, it's worth noting that I seriously doubt he's interested in selling, especially after the debacle our ill-fated partnership with Jolt turned into.

I'm not saying that it won't happen, but I'll join Reploid in saying that chances are extremely slim, given the history.

Your making a lot of assumptions; without knowing who I am. I've been playing NS for four years so that kinda debunks some of what you're saying. Second I work in the website development field so I know more about that then you assume.

[The Blaatschapen]

Do you think that Max will just sell the site willy-nilly for a few bucks? To quote Reppy:



I'm not saying that it won't happen, but I'll join Reploid in saying that chances are extremely slim, given the history.

Your making a lot of assumptions; without knowing who I am. I've been playing NS for four years so that kinda debunks some of what you're saying. Second I work in the website development field so I know more about that then you assume.

I think you're quoting the wrong person? I was not assuming anything about you?

[Stalker Queen]

Your making a lot of assumptions; without knowing who I am. I've been playing NS for four years so that kinda debunks some of what you're saying. Second I work in the website development field so I know more about that then you assume.

Reveal who you are, O puppetmaster, so we know who we speak to. Otherwise, we speak now to a newcomer. Nonetheless, you still do not even compare to people who have been playing for over a decade. Don't make me personally count the contacts in my NS Skype to see how much of the majority have been playing for even longer than four years. If the Mods can verify or debunk this, then it saves us all the trouble.

And if you work in the website development field, why are you offering to pay so much money for others to do that sort of work instead of doing it yourself?

I think you're quoting the wrong person? I was not assuming anything about you?

He intended to quote me. My apologies for the mix-up.

[Bitely]

Your making a lot of assumptions; without knowing who I am. I've been playing NS for four years so that kinda debunks some of what you're saying. Second I work in the website development field so I know more about that then you assume.

I think you're quoting the wrong person? I was not assuming anything about you?

Yes I was replying to the other post. Sorry I'm not on my usual phone.

Oh and I do not (and will not) have to reveal who I am. Nice try though.

[Tyrnica]

I'm interested in actually buying nationstates. but that isn't a bad idea. of course the money would have to go to adding more game enhancements.

Well if you're going that direction then everything's going to be overturned. Everything we've known is going to be destroyed and nothing will ever be the same again. You're going to upset an overwhelming majority just because you want the opportunity to purchase all the rights to a game you barely even know, compared to so many people who have been working hard at what they've got for many, many years. There are people who have been here for over a decade: do you seriously know this game better than those who have seen it develop and blossom for that long?

Do you seriously want us to believe that you're going to help everyone with your cash-lined pockets out of the good of your own heart? Do you seriously think you know best what the community which has been here for so many years wants after only being here for a matter of months, and having only experienced ONE tiny facet of NationStates: drafting World Assembly resolutions? Are you aware that there are roleplayers, raiders, defenders, imperialists, politicians, communities and so many other people besides just the minority that the World Assembly forum consists of?

Do you seriously think you'll be able to keep this game free in the state it is while paying hefty costs, not just in hosting but in so many other needs this game needs to exist in its present state periodically? Do you seriously think that your money's not going to run out to the point that you need to gradually charge more and more premiums to users: barely any of whom who have the wealth that you think they have?

Are you going to liquidate this game upon purchasing its rights just because a few dozen people pissed you off in your early days to spite possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't even know who you? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't care about what the World Assembly thinks? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people that could possibly accept you because they don't care what the World Assembly crowd think?

Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who have made the game as it is walk out the moment you start introducing premiums because you know absolutely nothing about how much hosting a website or any and all of its features actually cost? Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who considered NationStates their home for so much longer than you have even known of this game's existence walk out on you? Are you willing to lose that many customers just because you want to keep your own pockets lined? Are you willing to be even more scorned than you are the moment you introduce those premiums?

Are you ready to face the consequences of your actions?

Are you ready to purchase NationStates?

The moment you make your choice, there's no turning back. Hundreds of thousands of people will be affected by your actions, whether for better or for worse.

Choose wisely.

The moment you start making even the slightest change to NationStates is the moment I will leave forever in protest. And so will potentially hundreds of thousands of others. NationStates is ingenious in its simplicity as a text-based browser game and there are many people inclined to agree with me on this.

Don't. Do. This.

I couldn't agree more. Some would call this an exaggeration, but, honestly, I was slightly wary towards, and, for a small amount of time, against the Rift theme, even though I chose to switch over before it became the norm. I've barely been here for a year.

For those who have been here since, as the forum states so well, "Antiquity," I daresay that the slightest dislikable change will make them a shade more than "wary" or "against" whatever's been altered or implemented.

Your making a lot of assumptions; without knowing who I am. I've been playing NS for four years so that kinda debunks some of what you're saying. Second I work in the website development field so I know more about that then you assume.

The only evidence we've seen so far of your work, online or otherwise, is your advertisements. Would you be willing to show us some of your previous projects and/or work, of a more substantial level?

[Bitely]

Well if you're going that direction then everything's going to be overturned. Everything we've known is going to be destroyed and nothing will ever be the same again. You're going to upset an overwhelming majority just because you want the opportunity to purchase all the rights to a game you barely even know, compared to so many people who have been working hard at what they've got for many, many years. There are people who have been here for over a decade: do you seriously know this game better than those who have seen it develop and blossom for that long?

Do you seriously want us to believe that you're going to help everyone with your cash-lined pockets out of the good of your own heart? Do you seriously think you know best what the community which has been here for so many years wants after only being here for a matter of months, and having only experienced ONE tiny facet of NationStates: drafting World Assembly resolutions? Are you aware that there are roleplayers, raiders, defenders, imperialists, politicians, communities and so many other people besides just the minority that the World Assembly forum consists of?

Do you seriously think you'll be able to keep this game free in the state it is while paying hefty costs, not just in hosting but in so many other needs this game needs to exist in its present state periodically? Do you seriously think that your money's not going to run out to the point that you need to gradually charge more and more premiums to users: barely any of whom who have the wealth that you think they have?

Are you going to liquidate this game upon purchasing its rights just because a few dozen people pissed you off in your early days to spite possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't even know who you? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people who don't care about what the World Assembly thinks? Possibly hundreds of thousands of people that could possibly accept you because they don't care what the World Assembly crowd think?

Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who have made the game as it is walk out the moment you start introducing premiums because you know absolutely nothing about how much hosting a website or any and all of its features actually cost? Are you going to watch possibly hundreds of thousands of people who considered NationStates their home for so much longer than you have even known of this game's existence walk out on you? Are you willing to lose that many customers just because you want to keep your own pockets lined? Are you willing to be even more scorned than you are the moment you introduce those premiums?

Are you ready to face the consequences of your actions?

Are you ready to purchase NationStates?

The moment you make your choice, there's no turning back. Hundreds of thousands of people will be affected by your actions, whether for better or for worse.

Choose wisely.

The moment you start making even the slightest change to NationStates is the moment I will leave forever in protest. And so will potentially hundreds of thousands of others. NationStates is ingenious in its simplicity as a text-based browser game and there are many people inclined to agree with me on this.

Don't. Do. This.

I couldn't agree more. Some would call this an exaggeration, but, honestly, I was slightly wary towards, and, for a small amount of time, against the Rift theme, even though I chose to switch over before it became the norm. I've barely been here for a year.

For those who have been here since, as the forum states so well, "Antiquity," I daresay that the slightest dislikable change will make them a shade more than "wary" or "against" whatever's been altered or implemented.

Your making a lot of assumptions; without knowing who I am. I've been playing NS for four years so that kinda debunks some of what you're saying. Second I work in the website development field so I know more about that then you assume.

The only evidence we've seen so far of your work, online or otherwise, is your advertisements. Would you be willing to show us some of your previous projects and/or work, of a more substantial level?

Those are ok. But im more into php, html and gcnc coding.

[King Nephmir II]

If it's the latter, I'm not interested in standing by while we sell the game to anyone rich enough to buy the stuff they want.

I'm down for a revolt if you are.

[Bitely]

If it's the latter, I'm not interested in standing by while we sell the game to anyone rich enough to buy the stuff they want.

I'm down for a revolt if you are.

I'm not proposing major changes; just making the enhancements that users have been asking for for years.