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Will it be possible to disable NS from a certain computer?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:48 am
by PLESSUR
Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:50 am
by Benomia 3
Plessur wrote:Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?

The mods have ample tools to prevent people who they don't want accessing the site from accessing the site. This is not the first time someone has become unwelcome, and it certainly won't be the last.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:51 am
by PLESSUR
Benomia 3 wrote:
Plessur wrote:Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?

The mods have ample tools to prevent people who they don't want accessing the site from accessing the site. This is not the first time someone has become unwelcome, and it certainly won't be the last.


Those being? Can I be sure that they can deal with this Neo Nazi?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:52 am
by Sino nations
I Think They Cannot Make NS Blocked To Some Users.
Because They are not hackers.Also,"Neo Nazi"... GNG Is Back Under New Name?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:53 am
by Attican Republic
Plessur wrote:Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?


They can IP ban the person, however he/she may use dynamic IP addresses and so could reconnect with a new IP assigned by the ISP.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:53 am
by Benomia 3
Plessur wrote:
Benomia 3 wrote:The mods have ample tools to prevent people who they don't want accessing the site from accessing the site. This is not the first time someone has become unwelcome, and it certainly won't be the last.


Those being? Can I be sure that they can deal with this Neo Nazi?


The fact that the site isn't being overrun by the hundreds of DOS players that there are should be proof enough that they're capable.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:58 am
by Reploid Productions
We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:16 am
by Attican Republic
Reploid Productions wrote:We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.


How do recognise if he's DOS?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:17 am
by Luna Amore
Attican Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.


How do recognise if he's DOS?

Voodoo Magic.

Seriously though, we don't publically discuss our methods.

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:12 pm
by Tano
Attican Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.


How do recognise if he's DOS?

The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*

PostPosted: Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:16 pm
by Aenglaland
Tano wrote:The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*


Magic balls. Seems legit :p

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:39 am
by Magic 8 Ball
Tano wrote:
Attican Republic wrote:
How do recognise if he's DOS?

The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*


Yes definitely.

PostPosted: Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:58 am
by Tano
Magic 8 Ball wrote:
Tano wrote:The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*


Yes definitely.

Disappointing. You didn't even put a bit of effort into the joke! Didn't even bother making a custom flag!

3/10 try harder >:|