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Will it be possible to disable NS from a certain computer?

Postby PLESSUR » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:48 am

Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?
Anarcho-Saxony wrote:
Veskesh wrote:Jeez if Turkey keeps having these coups they'll be kicked out of NATO and won't be able to join the EU....

The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Postby Benomia 3 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:50 am

Plessur wrote:Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?

The mods have ample tools to prevent people who they don't want accessing the site from accessing the site. This is not the first time someone has become unwelcome, and it certainly won't be the last.
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Postby PLESSUR » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:51 am

Benomia 3 wrote:
Plessur wrote:Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?

The mods have ample tools to prevent people who they don't want accessing the site from accessing the site. This is not the first time someone has become unwelcome, and it certainly won't be the last.


Those being? Can I be sure that they can deal with this Neo Nazi?
Anarcho-Saxony wrote:
Veskesh wrote:Jeez if Turkey keeps having these coups they'll be kicked out of NATO and won't be able to join the EU....

The USA was in NATO when the American Civil War happened, but the Confederacy coup didn't cause it to be kicked out, did it?

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Postby Sino nations » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:52 am

I Think They Cannot Make NS Blocked To Some Users.
Because They are not hackers.Also,"Neo Nazi"... GNG Is Back Under New Name?
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Postby Attican Republic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:53 am

Plessur wrote:Seeing how this one Neo Nazi keeps returning with a new nation, is it or will it be possible for moderators to disable NS from a certain computer/network that someone like that is using?


They can IP ban the person, however he/she may use dynamic IP addresses and so could reconnect with a new IP assigned by the ISP.
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Postby Benomia 3 » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:53 am

Plessur wrote:
Benomia 3 wrote:The mods have ample tools to prevent people who they don't want accessing the site from accessing the site. This is not the first time someone has become unwelcome, and it certainly won't be the last.


Those being? Can I be sure that they can deal with this Neo Nazi?


The fact that the site isn't being overrun by the hundreds of DOS players that there are should be proof enough that they're capable.
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Postby Reploid Productions » Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:58 am

We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.
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Postby Attican Republic » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:16 am

Reploid Productions wrote:We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.


How do recognise if he's DOS?
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Postby Luna Amore » Tue Sep 01, 2015 10:17 am

Attican Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.


How do recognise if he's DOS?

Voodoo Magic.

Seriously though, we don't publically discuss our methods.

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Postby Tano » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:12 pm

Attican Republic wrote:
Reploid Productions wrote:We cannot "disable" NS on someone's computer, because we don't have access to their computer and Nationstates is a website, not a program that can be disabled. We can ban, delete, and so on from our end, but IP bans are largely ineffective or easily evaded. That's why we call our permaban "Delete-On-Sight"- the unwelcome user shows up, they get nuked and their posts removed.

The current NeoNazi troll is just the most recent in a long history of such nuisance users. Like all of the DOSes before him, he'll eventually get tired of having no lasting impact here. (Plus, I can guarantee you, it takes him more effort to make a nation and post a bunch of crap than the roughly 4 mouse clicks it takes us to delete him and all of his posts.) This guy isn't even the worst I've seen and dealt with in the nearly 12 years I've been modding.


How do recognise if he's DOS?

The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*
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Postby Aenglaland » Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:16 pm

Tano wrote:The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*


Magic balls. Seems legit :p
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Postby Magic 8 Ball » Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:39 am

Tano wrote:
Attican Republic wrote:
How do recognise if he's DOS?

The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*


Yes definitely.

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Postby Tano » Wed Sep 02, 2015 3:58 am

Magic 8 Ball wrote:
Tano wrote:The Magic 8 ball method.

"Oh Magic 8 Ball, is this nation DoS?"

*shakeshakeshakeshake*

*pause*

*clicks the Banhammer button*


Yes definitely.

Disappointing. You didn't even put a bit of effort into the joke! Didn't even bother making a custom flag!

3/10 try harder >:|
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Govindia: Do you consider me a friend, or just an acquaintance or what?
hobbes: I don't particularly consider anyone a true 'friend'
hobbes: at least,not on NS
Govindia: why is that?
hobbes: because
hobbes: everyone here is a jackass
hobbes: myself included

Pixie: *heart sploosh*
Tano: if your heart is splooshing you should contact a doctor
Tano: hearts are supposed to thump not sploosh
Pixie: No this is normal
Pixie: intense emotion causes me to hemorrage internally
Pixie: my life is like a really depressing comedic episode of The X-Files

Khron: we need an achievment of rem's face just for Tano
Pixie: haha
Pixie: "be Tano"

Brunhilde: My quotes should be in more signatures.

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