Change in Weather Calculations?

[Lemmingtopias]

How in the world did this happen? Voting for sex education decreases my nation's weather by 208????

Legislating in favour of sex education probably increased godlessness which decreases good weather.

[Unibot III]

Weather should probably be affected by environmental degradation and pollution, not culture, but I could see where [violet] is coming from - for example, in the fine arts it's usually assumed that surrealism was more popular in the north and naturalism, the south.

One trend you could see for weather is to isolate the success of your agricultural industry and output from the success of the rest of your economy; which suggests more arable countries have better weather. It's a bit backward, because improving your agriculture would improve your weather, but it might be a less tangential indicator than culture.

[The Dark Star Republic]

Tourism and weather used to correlate quite strongly. Amusingly, the town with the worst weather in the USA - Forks, Washington - now has a booming tourist industry thanks to the Twilight franchise.

[[violet]]

Weather should probably be affected by environmental degradation and pollution

It is!

For anyone skimming this thread, weather is not primarily determined by culture.

[Unibot III]

Weather should probably be affected by environmental degradation and pollution

It is!

For anyone skimming this thread, weather is not primarily determined by culture.

Ah, I see. My apologies.

[Undivulged Principles]

You would have been far better off just saying you were British, at least it would have been more accurate than that response.

1/6 is not an insignificant amount. People would kill for that RoI annually. According to 80/20 it would take almost as much time to raise productivity 1/6 as it did to get productivity up to that point to start. Being taxed 1/6 of your income is considered a lot.

A nation in this game having 1/6 more on a rating than any other nation has an almost insurmountable lead in the rating, unless they do something stupid.

1/6 of something is very significant. 1/6 innacuracy is highly significant and in many sciences can be the difference between life and death.

Just admit you were wrong and fix it. There is absolutely no correlation between weather and culture. This is just a blatant attempt to add relevance to a Stat where none should be.

[Enfaru]

You would have been far better off just saying you were British, at least it would have been more accurate than that response.

1/6 is not an insignificant amount. People would kill for that RoI annually. According to 80/20 it would take almost as much time to raise productivity 1/6 as it did to get productivity up to that point to start. Being taxed 1/6 of your income is considered a lot.

A nation in this game having 1/6 more on a rating than any other nation has an almost insurmountable lead in the rating, unless they do something stupid.

1/6 of something is very significant. 1/6 innacuracy is highly significant and in many sciences can be the difference between life and death.

Just admit you were wrong and fix it. There is absolutely no correlation between weather and culture. This is just a blatant attempt to add relevance to a Stat where none should be.

#Nationstates.

Suffer for your art. It looks to me that [violet] has made their position pretty clear. Time to move on and find something else to complain about.

[Xenforo]

more culture = less sunlight

Cultures mustn't be practised indoors but also outdoors. African's culture is singing together outdoors, hunting, etc. so they should've more sunlights while other cultures like Islamic countries practice indoors (i.e. mosque) so they should've minimal sunlights.

So, this is vary by culture.

I think it is more appropriate if weathers are affected by the environment (i.e. green, polluted).

• If the country is polluted, the pollutions cover sunlights.
  i.e. rubbish cover water surface, preventing sunlight from travelling to the water for sea plants; haze on the air, minimising the amount of sunlight to travel to the region
• If the country is green, most things are nature. Living things are healthy, good weather will play an additional good role there.

PS: Less culture actually receives lesser sunlights because they're modern. i.e. use smartphones/computers.

If you link culture + environment, then it should receive even lesser sunlights because modern are factories, they pollute the environment.

[Enfaru]

Weather is affected by the environment.

... [violet] really needs to introduce a Forum based like system because Xenforo deserves that like.

[Ratateague]

more culture = less sunlight

PS: Less culture actually receives lesser sunlights because they're modern. i.e. use smartphones/computers.

If you link culture + environment, then it should receive even lesser sunlights because modern are factories, they pollute the environment.

Technology != Culture
Culture exists within technology as it pertains to mediums of communication, but no more demonstrably so than the conventions and rituals that have predated such mediums.

Detrimental climate and environmental effects are not a result of culture, but industrialization and expansion. Technology is a byproduct of education and industry, and culture is not necessarily a byproduct of technology (yet maybe education), but our manner of social interaction as it may relate to laws, norms, and taboos (social conservatism). And history, but there is no measurement for history unless you revert a stat to issue-dependent.

[Enfaru]

PS: Less culture actually receives lesser sunlights because they're modern. i.e. use smartphones/computers.

If you link culture + environment, then it should receive even lesser sunlights because modern are factories, they pollute the environment.

Technology != Culture
Culture exists within technology as it pertains to mediums of communication, but no more demonstrably so than the conventions and rituals that have predated such mediums.

Detrimental climate and environmental effects are not a result of culture, but industrialization and expansion. Technology is a byproduct of education and industry, and culture is not necessarily a byproduct of technology (yet maybe education), but our manner of social interaction as it may relate to laws, norms, and taboos (social conservatism). And history, but there is no measurement for history unless you revert a stat to issue-dependent.

Less culture actually receives lesser sunlights because they're ancient. i.e. cave painting.

I disagree that culture is not necessarily a byproduct of technology. Twitter has changed how we interact with people. Facebook has defined our taboos and social media as a whole is influencing our laws. This has always been the case ever since the invention of the quill and heck, perhaps even before then. The use of technology no matter its form changes society.

I'd recommend taking this particular argument to General however before it becomes a thread jack.

[Ratateague]

Less culture actually receives lesser sunlights because they're ancient. i.e. cave painting.

There is no causality in that reasoning. The example you provided pertains more to the primitiveness and population stats than it does culture. The sun does not shine more or less and storms do not come because a species is old or developed, nor would the reverse be true (lest a nation CTE due to horrible weather). The level of cultural development of a living thing is irrelevant in determining whether or not there will be a storm or more/less sunlight. It happens regardless of the fact, and we are at the mercy of the planet's whims.(also)

I disagree that culture is not necessarily a byproduct of technology. Twitter has changed how we interact with people. Facebook has defined our taboos and social media as a whole is influencing our laws. This has always been the case ever since the invention of the quill and heck, perhaps even before then. The use of technology no matter its form changes society.

Granted, as it pertains to communication, and speeds up our social interaction greatly. Similar can be said of the billboard, bulletin board, passenger pigeon, or graffiti / chalk on asphault: there are popularly agreed-on guidelines and preferences of usage, and they have the capability to affect our laws. Regardless, it is the development of technology, not culture which can exist within that medium, that can affect weather.

I'd recommend taking this particular argument to General however before it becomes a thread jack.

It's not a thread jack as it relevant to the discussion of why culture should not affect weather nor vice versa.

[Sanctaria]

It's not a thread jack as it relevant to the discussion of why culture should not affect weather nor vice versa.

I don't know why there's a discussion since we don't really have any plans to change the calculation again.

[Xenforo]

Weather is affected by the environment.

Oops! Seen it...

I only read Page 1 but Page 2 I didn't read because I realised it exist after I spent hard effort reading all. Now I read Page 2 and realised [violet] has clarified that with someone else already.

Ignore my debate.

[Xenforo]

Less culture actually receives lesser sunlights because they're ancient. i.e. cave painting.

There is no causality in that reasoning. The example you provided pertains more to the primitiveness and population stats than it does culture. The sun does not shine more or less and storms do not come because a species is old or developed, nor would the reverse be true (lest a nation CTE due to horrible weather). The level of cultural development of a living thing is irrelevant in determining whether or not there will be a storm or more/less sunlight. It happens regardless of the fact, and we are at the mercy of the planet's whims.(also)

I disagree that culture is not necessarily a byproduct of technology. Twitter has changed how we interact with people. Facebook has defined our taboos and social media as a whole is influencing our laws. This has always been the case ever since the invention of the quill and heck, perhaps even before then. The use of technology no matter its form changes society.

Granted, as it pertains to communication, and speeds up our social interaction greatly. Similar can be said of the billboard, bulletin board, passenger pigeon, or graffiti / chalk on asphault: there are popularly agreed-on guidelines and preferences of usage, and they have the capability to affect our laws. Regardless, it is the development of technology, not culture which can exist within that medium, that can affect weather.

Have you read this?

How does more culture equate to less sunlighty?

In the real world, people who live in places with more sunlight are more likely to engage in outdoor pursuits, and so be more physically active (stereotypically: fitter, healthier, better-looking). People who live in places with less sunlight are more likely to engage in indoor pursuits, and so be more mentally active (stereotypically: smarter, better educated, more cultured).

Since this is NationStates, instead of the weather influencing you, you influence the weather.

[Crackacoon]

Im also in a similar boat, my weather was pretty good at around the 30% of the world, then i passed one issue and it dropped by like 100 pts and now im 98%.

[Ransium]

Please don't grave dig old threads.