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What happens if you're banned from all the sinkers and CTE?

Postby Ikania » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:57 pm

Title says it all. I'm banned from Lazarus, and I was wondering: what would happen if I somehow managed to piss off Balder and Osiris, then CTE? Do bans reset if I revive my nation? Do I just get transported to the Rejected Realms? Or does it act like normal until I leave, after which I can't come back?
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Postby Doom Squad Commander » Sat Nov 22, 2014 1:59 pm

I believe you go to TRR, but I'm not quite sure. Now I know what to try with some raider puppets of mine...

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Postby Nephmir » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:04 pm

Huh... I've never thought about that before...

My guess is that it resets. I think when you CTE you are clear from all ban lists, but I'm not quite certain.
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Postby Tano » Sat Nov 22, 2014 2:54 pm

viewtopic.php?f=12&t=147218&p=20256162#p20256162

Shows you can still revive while being banned.
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Postby Usual People In Life » Sat Nov 22, 2014 3:00 pm

Thinking on that note...

If a nation is Banned by Mod from creating new regions, and is perma-banned from every possible region, what then? Where could they go other than TRR? Does the game cope with that?

I would test it, but I don't want to create a bajillion temporary regions, plus it's likely to be a bit tricky to get every Mod, Admin and every region in existence to agree to being roped into such experiments... :lol2:
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Postby Ikania » Sat Nov 22, 2014 4:37 pm

Tano wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=147218&p=20256162#p20256162

Shows you can still revive while being banned.

Time to invade Lazarus again :twisted:

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Postby Undivulged Principles » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:06 pm

As a regional founder, nations I banned that CTE are automatically removed from the ban Los unfortunately. Kind of stupid result that needs to be addressed.
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Postby Toronina » Sat Nov 22, 2014 6:10 pm

That's a very good question. I think you'd go to TRR since I'm pretty sure the Delegate can't ban anyone there.
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Postby Usual People In Life » Sun Nov 23, 2014 3:13 am

That's right - TRR is the only eject/ban free region in NS. After all, if someone was ejected/banned/banjected from TRR, they wouldn't have anywhere to go!
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Postby Tano » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:52 am

Toronina wrote:That's a very good question. I think you'd go to TRR since I'm pretty sure the Delegate can't ban anyone there.

Usual People In Life wrote:That's right - TRR is the only eject/ban free region in NS. After all, if someone was ejected/banned/banjected from TRR, they wouldn't have anywhere to go!

Read: viewtopic.php?p=22528316#p22528316
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Govindia: Do you consider me a friend, or just an acquaintance or what?
hobbes: I don't particularly consider anyone a true 'friend'
hobbes: at least,not on NS
Govindia: why is that?
hobbes: because
hobbes: everyone here is a jackass
hobbes: myself included

Pixie: *heart sploosh*
Tano: if your heart is splooshing you should contact a doctor
Tano: hearts are supposed to thump not sploosh
Pixie: No this is normal
Pixie: intense emotion causes me to hemorrage internally
Pixie: my life is like a really depressing comedic episode of The X-Files

Khron: we need an achievment of rem's face just for Tano
Pixie: haha
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Postby Riemstagrad » Sun Nov 23, 2014 10:52 am

follow the link tano posted for the answer. Everyone else in this topic is just guessing.

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Postby Topid » Sun Nov 23, 2014 7:22 pm

Entering a region via refound does not check the banlist. You can be banned from only one sinker, but you will still have a 1/3rd chance of refounding in that Sinker. We saw this occur when the imperials lost control of Lazarus, they let the former delegate who was banned cease to exist, and they got lucky enough that it refounded in Laz past the ban (even though she was not banned in Osiris or Balder to my knowledge). The hope was they'd have to spend the influence to ban her twice.
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Postby Yao » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:11 am

We tested this in Lazarus, for security reasons. You just end up in one of the rebirth sinkers, with no trend of favoritism towards a specific one, regardless of the circumstances.

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Postby Indian Empire » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:21 pm

Topid wrote:Entering a region via refound does not check the banlist. You can be banned from only one sinker, but you will still have a 1/3rd chance of refounding in that Sinker. We saw this occur when the imperials lost control of Lazarus, they let the former delegate who was banned cease to exist, and they got lucky enough that it refounded in Laz past the ban (even though she was not banned in Osiris or Balder to my knowledge). The hope was they'd have to spend the influence to ban her twice.


I wonder what would happen here if they had been banned. Like, would the nation show up twice on the banlist?
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Postby Yao » Mon Nov 24, 2014 7:21 pm

Indian Empire wrote:
Topid wrote:Entering a region via refound does not check the banlist. You can be banned from only one sinker, but you will still have a 1/3rd chance of refounding in that Sinker. We saw this occur when the imperials lost control of Lazarus, they let the former delegate who was banned cease to exist, and they got lucky enough that it refounded in Laz past the ban (even though she was not banned in Osiris or Balder to my knowledge). The hope was they'd have to spend the influence to ban her twice.


I wonder what would happen here if they had been banned. Like, would the nation show up twice on the banlist?

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Postby Kazmr » Tue Nov 25, 2014 12:32 am

They did, though, give some accommodation by removing influence from regions you did not CTE in, no? So even though you may be able to revive in the region, the chances of being able to stay very long are quite minimal.
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Postby Yao » Tue Nov 25, 2014 6:03 pm

Kazmr wrote:They did, though, give some accommodation by removing influence from regions you did not CTE in, no? So even though you may be able to revive in the region, the chances of being able to stay very long are quite minimal.

Indeed.


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