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Enfaru
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Postby Enfaru » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:51 pm

I wonder if this would be possible. I note that as some nations evolve, they change their name usually in line with their language. Some nations use their title to change but mostly this is to poor effect.

My idea if it hasn't already been suggested already, is to have nation names permanent as they already are .... so http://www.nationstate.net/nation=maxtopia will always lead to the same place, but the displayed name of the nation could be set in settings and display as something else?

So Maxtopia could become Bigtopia, although this wouldn't change the original identity name. I imagine a check can be placed so that a person doesn't try to take someone elses displayed nation name or actual nation name in much the same way that a check is already in place at registration.
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Postby Stormaen » Tue Oct 21, 2014 11:55 pm

It's an alright idea but I see a lot of problems with it. People may register with just any random name like Absdqr or something and then start imitating others' nations. Plus we'd probably wind up with hundreds of nations masking as the same RL country (I'm thinking there would be a LOT of USAs and Russias, for example).
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Postby Enfaru » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:39 am

That's why the check, so they can't just imitate other nations. If for instance, I had the name Enfaru (I do) but wanted my display name to be Stormaen, because Stormaen is already a nation name and/or a display name, I wouldn't be able to use it. I would however be able to use Stormaen_ but that's allowed anyway I just need to create another nation.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Oct 22, 2014 12:46 am

The all important question: why?

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Postby Enfaru » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:13 am

Luna Amore wrote:The all important question: why?


Because it'd be damn cool.

In my region there are a few nations that change their name regularly but can't change the display name. For instance, one of our members is a bit of an omniglot and has changed their name from Prajul, to Prajulh, to Praduhr, to Prazhul over a period of a few months as the language they're creating evolves. I know that the original name is Prajul but it'd be nice to actually see what the nation calls themselves rather than what they were originally called.

I mean... we don't call the USA the Confederate States of America, we don't call Russia the USSR and we certainly don't call Greece the Hellenic Republic (that's their original and official name). Nations evolve over time and like how nations can change their flag at the drop of a hat, they should also be able to change their display name at the drop of hat.

Luna, I know you say no to each and EVERY customizable feature, but please, have some creativity... I bet you were against having demonyms... and capital cities and religions....
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:17 am

This would lead to a lot of confusion. I could name myself 'Fluffy sheep' tomorrow. Then the next day I'll name myself something else and Drop Your Pants could then take the 'Fluffy Sheep' name(since it would be free) and that would just confuse stuff.
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Postby Enfaru » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:20 am

Not really, if I clicked on your nation, it should usually say, "The Blaatschapen" in the URL and perhaps even on the nation page itself *it could* say something like this, "The Blaatschapen; Fluffy Sheep"
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Postby Quilavaland » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:23 am

Nah, I think it would get too confusing.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Wed Oct 22, 2014 4:29 am

Enfaru wrote:Not really, if I clicked on your nation, it should usually say, "The Blaatschapen" in the URL and perhaps even on the nation page itself *it could* say something like this, "The Blaatschapen; Fluffy Sheep"


It's not about what it says on the nation. It's about what people have in their minds. That would get confusing. Today I'm fluffy, tomorrow DYP is. And we can't be both fluffy!

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Basically, a custom name, when dropped, would be free to be picked up by someone else, and then people would confuse who is meant when someone says 'Fluffy'.
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Postby Enfaru » Wed Oct 22, 2014 6:30 am

I disagree, but it's a valid argument. In the same way that multiple people can use the same flag.
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Postby Shadoke » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:04 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:This would lead to a lot of confusion. I could name myself 'Fluffy sheep' tomorrow. Then the next day I'll name myself something else and Drop Your Pants could then take the 'Fluffy Sheep' name(since it would be free) and that would just confuse stuff.

What if in Brackets by the name it still shows (Blattschapen)?
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Postby Landenburg » Wed Oct 22, 2014 11:10 am

Enfaru wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The all important question: why?


Because it'd be damn cool.

In my region there are a few nations that change their name regularly but can't change the display name. For instance, one of our members is a bit of an omniglot and has changed their name from Prajul, to Prajulh, to Praduhr, to Prazhul over a period of a few months as the language they're creating evolves. I know that the original name is Prajul but it'd be nice to actually see what the nation calls themselves rather than what they were originally called.

I mean... we don't call the USA the Confederate States of America, we don't call Russia the USSR and we certainly don't call Greece the Hellenic Republic (that's their original and official name). Nations evolve over time and like how nations can change their flag at the drop of a hat, they should also be able to change their display name at the drop of hat.

Luna, I know you say no to each and EVERY customizable feature, but please, have some creativity... I bet you were against having demonyms... and capital cities and religions....

But uh..those...those kinda aren't the same countries...that's why we don't, yanno, call them that?
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Postby Enfaru » Thu Oct 23, 2014 12:41 am

The point is, nations evolve over time. The Confederate States of America was America before it became the united states...pretty much all but name.

The EU is also a good point of interest, it's changed its name every five minutes even though its been basically the same set countries at the helm.

The USSR is Russia but with a few bits trimmed off the edges. The only difference between the USSR is that they're no longer a communist dictatorship and lately...that's up for debate.
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Postby Cora II » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:20 am

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Postby Aikoland » Thu Oct 23, 2014 1:44 am

Enfaru wrote:The Confederate States of America was America before it became the united states...pretty much all but name.

Not really related to the thread but this is so goddamn wrong it hurts.

The Confederate States of America was a group of 11 Southern states that seceded from the United States of America in 1860 and 1861 and declared themselves to be an independent nation called the Confederate States of America.

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Postby Enfaru » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:27 am

Cora II wrote:Custom displayed name: 'Cora' for nation Cora II:
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[url=http://www.nationstates.net/nation=cora_ii]Cora[/url]
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-_-; No. That's not a solution. Take a look at your username... did that change? No (And that's a standard PHPbb feature by the way mods).... did the name on your nationpage change? No. Can you effect it any way? No. Your solution is answering a different problem.
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Postby Glasbyd » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:30 am

Aikoland wrote:
Enfaru wrote:The Confederate States of America was America before it became the united states...pretty much all but name.

Not really related to the thread but this is so goddamn wrong it hurts.

The Confederate States of America was a group of 11 Southern states that seceded from the United States of America in 1860 and 1861 and declared themselves to be an independent nation called the Confederate States of America.

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Agreed, but he still has a point with Russia/USSR.

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Postby Imperial Nalydya » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:36 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:This would lead to a lot of confusion. I could name myself 'Fluffy sheep' tomorrow. Then the next day I'll name myself something else and Drop Your Pants could then take the 'Fluffy Sheep' name(since it would be free) and that would just confuse stuff.


If I may be so bold, Blaatschapen, one could potentially see a system in which, say, you have a limited amount of name changes per every x amount of time, or perhaps it could be tied into answering issues. I do see the point you are making, and it is indeed a very valid one. Just my two cents, as personally, I'd like to see a system in which the display name can be changed.

Someone changing their name every day, IMHO, isn't what this should be for. Those who want a legitimate change in display name and have the desire to keep the name for a considerable length of time are who the option should be tailored towards.
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Postby [violet] » Thu Oct 23, 2014 3:44 pm

Enfaru wrote:The point is, nations evolve over time. The Confederate States of America was America before it became the united states...pretty much all but name.

This is a bad example, isn't it? You already can make a NationStates nation named "America" with a pre-title of "Confederate States" that you later change to "United States." CSA -> USA.

What you can't do is change "The Confederate States of America" to "The United States of Brazil."
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