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Jachaelter
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Creating A Military Size Indicator In The Trend Tab

Postby Jachaelter » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:44 pm

I think it would be good for NationStates to add a Military Size Indicator the Trend part of your nation. This would really help people to known more about the ACTUAL size of their military, so they don't lie about it in the International Incidents forum or anywhere else. In the indicator, it should say the size of your military out of 100 (Example- 76/1000) and then it should say how many people are actually in your military (Example- 2,300,500).

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Postby Torisakia » Wed Jul 23, 2014 6:54 pm

Why do this when you can do the math? If you want your military, for example, 5% of your population, just take your population and divide it and use this to figure it out.
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Postby Jachaelter » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:12 pm

No you don't understand, some nations have compulsory military service for people ages 12+ I think it is. And I think that would be more than 5% of population. And other nations don't want to have a lot of arms manufactured, so you must also put that into use.
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Postby Torisakia » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:19 pm

Jachaelter wrote:No you don't understand, some nations have compulsory military service for people ages 12+ I think it is. And I think that would be more than 5% of population. And other nations don't want to have a lot of arms manufactured, so you must also put that into use.

What you're saying sounds like a wargame, and per the FAQ:
FAQ wrote:At its core, NationStates is a political game, not a wargame.


So it's highly, actually inevitably, impossible that this will get implemented. Just use the numbers that you see fit for your population.
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Postby Jachaelter » Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:28 pm

In asking them to add a little military indicator...

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:30 pm

The game doesn't track the size of your military. We'd have to simply make something up.

Rather than go through all that bother for ~4 million nations, why don't you just make up whatever figure you want for your RP wars and let other players tell you what a dumb idea it, like everyone else?

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Postby Riftend » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:40 pm

I'm gonna say this in the least insulting way possible - but all your posts just seem far out there. A raiding region when you don't have your idea completely around raiding, constant ideas that you seem to think can be accepted due to a popular vote and finally all the puppetwanking. If people aren't showing an interest can't you understand that force feeding them yet another poorly thought out idea is not going to have more people pay attention to you - nor is puppetwanking on here.
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Wed Jul 23, 2014 10:44 pm

The game does, however, track the percentage of your budget spent on defense, which is the basis for the Largest Militaries (or whatever it's called) ranking. If a nation's Analysis shows it ranking low in defense spending, then it's highly unlikely they can afford to support high troop numbers. That, and there are also several third party stats calculators that approximate actual defense budgets.
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Postby District XIV » Thu Jul 24, 2014 12:37 am

Riftend wrote:I'm gonna say this in the least insulting way possible - but all your posts just seem far out there. A raiding region when you don't have your idea completely around raiding, constant ideas that you seem to think can be accepted due to a popular vote and finally all the puppetwanking. If people aren't showing an interest can't you understand that force feeding them yet another poorly thought out idea is not going to have more people pay attention to you - nor is puppetwanking on here.

This^

And why can't you (the OP) simply make up your military numbers? I do for every RP -.-

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Postby Riftend » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:53 am

District XIV wrote:
Riftend wrote:I'm gonna say this in the least insulting way possible - but all your posts just seem far out there. A raiding region when you don't have your idea completely around raiding, constant ideas that you seem to think can be accepted due to a popular vote and finally all the puppetwanking. If people aren't showing an interest can't you understand that force feeding them yet another poorly thought out idea is not going to have more people pay attention to you - nor is puppetwanking on here.

This^

And why can't you (the OP) simply make up your military numbers? I do for every RP -.-

No idea - He just seems to get an idea and write a sentence with no regard for it's practicality. Above all the puppet wanking pisses me off. Can't a Mod just IP ban him due to his WA multi....there ya go....a reason. Deal with him... :rofl:
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Postby Jachaelter » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:04 am

Riftend's just mad because I'm a Christian.
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Postby Jachaelter » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:06 am

I didn't know puppets weren't allowed Riftend. That's some news to me.

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Postby Riftend » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:26 am

Jachaelter wrote:Riftend's just mad because I'm a Christian.

I'm mad because i'm you're religious? Are you retarded? -.-

Jachaelter wrote:I didn't know puppets weren't allowed Riftend. That's some news to me.

no it's not - but having multiple WA nations is and as is using puppets to make your idea seem like a group of people like them. Seriously mate you just post crap - than puppetwank in hopes of it seeming popular. It's not - Don't bloody accuse me of disliking an idea due to my personal beliefs either!

I think your an idiot - not the religion
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:44 am

Riftend wrote:
Jachaelter wrote:Riftend's just mad because I'm a Christian.

I'm mad because i'm you're religious? Are you retarded? -.-

Jachaelter wrote:I didn't know puppets weren't allowed Riftend. That's some news to me.

no it's not - but having multiple WA nations is and as is using puppets to make your idea seem like a group of people like them. Seriously mate you just post crap - than puppetwank in hopes of it seeming popular. It's not - Don't bloody accuse me of disliking an idea due to my personal beliefs either!

I think your an idiot - not the religion


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Postby Riftend » Thu Jul 24, 2014 6:53 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Riftend wrote:I'm mad because i'm you're religious? Are you retarded? -.-


no it's not - but having multiple WA nations is and as is using puppets to make your idea seem like a group of people like them. Seriously mate you just post crap - than puppetwank in hopes of it seeming popular. It's not - Don't bloody accuse me of disliking an idea due to my personal beliefs either!

I think your an idiot - not the religion


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Yeeeea - no

I would not have begun if the man hadn't called me anti-Christian. I certainly feel that'd come under flame-baiting yet he gets no warning?

"Flamebaiting: Posts that are made with the aim of angering someone indirectly. Not outright flame, but still liable to bring angry replies. Flame baiting is a far more subtle and covert action; it is an underhanded tactic that is designed to provoke a response from another player. It's in the same context of trolling but with flamebaiting it's just the one person." (viewtopic.php?f=20&t=267751)

Read the whole conversation rather than one message -.-
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Postby Jachaelter » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:00 am

I apologize but I sure didn't call you straight up anti-Christian, and don't call ME retarded.

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Postby Riftend » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:03 am

Jachaelter wrote:I apologize but I sure didn't call you straight up anti-Christian, and don't call ME retarded.

In what world does "Riftends just mad because im christian" not mean your calling someone out on being anti-Christian?
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Postby Jachaelter » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:15 am

Than you for accepting the apology.

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Postby The Assassin ShadowX » Thu Jul 24, 2014 7:59 am

Frisbeeteria wrote:The game doesn't track the size of your military. We'd have to simply make something up.

Rather than go through all that bother for ~4 million nations, why don't you just make up whatever figure you want for your RP wars and let other players tell you what a dumb idea it, like everyone else?


:rofl: This was funny. BTW, is his signature legal? The portion that he made it look like the mods banners.

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Postby District XIV » Thu Jul 24, 2014 1:16 pm

Jachaelter wrote:Riftend's just mad because I'm a Christian.

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If you have to resort to this because people dislike your idea, then your idea is bad.
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Postby Riftend » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:06 pm

District XIV wrote:
Jachaelter wrote:Riftend's just mad because I'm a Christian.

Image


If you have to resort to this because people dislike your idea, then your idea is bad.

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Postby Torisakia » Thu Jul 24, 2014 3:12 pm

How off-topic this thread got...

If I may ask, was there ever a point where a soon-to-be feature or an already-implemented feature made NS look more like a wargame, rather than a political simulation game? Just curious about it.
You ever woke up one morning and just decided it wasn't one of those days and you were gonna break some stuff?
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[TNN] A cargo ship belonging to Torisakia disappeared off the coast of Kostane late Wednesday evening. TBI suspects foul play. || Congress passes a T$10 billion aid package for the Democratic Populist rebels in Kostane. To include firearms, vehicles, and artillery.

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Postby Sanctaria » Thu Jul 24, 2014 10:58 pm

Torisakia wrote:How off-topic this thread got...

If I may ask, was there ever a point where a soon-to-be feature or an already-implemented feature made NS look more like a wargame, rather than a political simulation game? Just curious about it.

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