NationStates++ | Browser Extension for NationStates

[Sseroffa]

Nice number crunching. You are of course, correct. NationStates++ does put an extra 10 second delay on recruitment.

Why? Mostly because it is impossible to exactly report the moment a browser successfully sends a recruitment telegram, due to delays in request timing. Further, its unclear how the NS API records these requests, does it count the API limit the moment a connection is made, or when the connection is terminated, or some time in between? There are enough unknowns that a safety margin to avoid the 15 minute too-soon timeout from recruiting too fast is better. The extra margin beyond 10 seconds you saw is likely to due to slow requests or additional latency on your end.

The next release has the recruitment system rewritten a bit and hopefully the latency on your end will be reduced as it will use websockets rather than ajax requests.

[Avaerilon]

Hello all! A quick update. A few details have yet to be worked out, but we are in the process of acquiring NationStates++ and its servers from Afforess.

Hooray! I liked all the features of NS++, but concerns about the security made me can it. I'm sure an officially-sanctioned version will be just the ticket, though- excellent news, and thank you

[Vanhania]

I am the WA Delegate of The Coalition of Governments, I am suddenly being told "You do not have permission to view active recruitment campaigns" on the recruitment page. Do you happen to know why?

[Moon Eclipse]

I didn't realize that NS++ was an emulator. Very interesting. I suppose that makes sense, given I am trying to figure out how to stop my own ajax calls from breaking the rate limit if multiple people are accessing my tool...

But would [violet] really emulate her own game now that she is in possession of the extension? That doesn't make sense to me...

So, is the regular API rate just going to go up or are you going to keep it the way it is while emulating the whole thing for rate-free API calls? Calls to the emulator are nearly rate-free, right?

Or am I missing something? o_O

Also, how is it Afforess can afford to emulate the whole thing to provide this service while the main site has a rate limit? Are costs going to go up taking on the project, or down because he has a better hosting solution?

Just wondering...

[Hobbesistan]

^because even though a lot of people use NS++, its still nothing compared to the traffic the main site gets.

As for [violet], you are correct, I believe (don't quote me on this) the plan is to continue supporting it but gradually adapt its features into the main game, obviously ending support once a majority of features are properly implemented. It's not exactly something you can do overnight.

[Moon Eclipse]

Okey dokey, I guess that makes sense.

Thanks, Hobbes.

[Sseroffa]

I didn't realize that NS++ was an emulator. Very interesting. I suppose that makes sense, given I am trying to figure out how to stop my own ajax calls from breaking the rate limit if multiple people are accessing my tool...

Yep. Eventually in order to provide support for unlimited users, I had to go and emulate the entire game state of NationStates. The easiest way to accomplish this is to use the daily dumps as the "starting state" of your emulation layer, and then track the happenings feed for changes and apply those changes to the "state" of the game. That is the basics of what I do.

But would [violet] really emulate her own game now that she is in possession of the extension? That doesn't make sense to me...

Probably yes, because removing the emulation layer is a lot of work, and the game state is in a rather nasty flat file format, rather than the database I used.

So, is the regular API rate just going to go up or are you going to keep it the way it is while emulating the whole thing for rate-free API calls? Calls to the emulator are nearly rate-free, right?

I doubt any changes to the rate limit will be made.

Also, how is it Afforess can afford to emulate the whole thing to provide this service while the main site has a rate limit? Are costs going to go up taking on the project, or down because he has a better hosting solution?

Good design decisions? I also don't have emulate the *entire* site. I don't store flags, just the flag urls, for example. That saves massively on space.

Also remember it is easier to design something the second time. All the hard work had been done on NationStates, emulating an existing design is much easier than making a new design.

Just wondering...

All good questions.

^because even though a lot of people use NS++, its still nothing compared to the traffic the main site gets.

As for [violet], you are correct, I believe (don't quote me on this) the plan is to continue supporting it but gradually adapt its features into the main game, obviously ending support once a majority of features are properly implemented. It's not exactly something you can do overnight.

Not quite. The extension will remain as a test platform for ideas. I doubt all the ideas or features from the extension will become officially supported either.

[The Recon Empire]

Hello everyone! I am having some problems with my Recruitment API Telegrams, I hope everyone can help!!

My recruitment has stopped for about one week or so, and the recruitment telegrams are no longer sending, nor is there the bar that I'd usually see.

When I go to the Recruitment link on the regional homepage, it says that I do not have permission to view it. I am the founder of my region, and I am also the only nation who is the "Recruitment Officer". However, I am prohibited from doing anything and the progress just isn't going. Everything else on the page is also prohibited.

This is really important because our region relies on this to grow, so I hope that we can solve this quickly! Thank you so much for your help!

[Sseroffa]

Hello everyone! I am having some problems with my Recruitment API Telegrams, I hope everyone can help!!

My recruitment has stopped for about one week or so, and the recruitment telegrams are no longer sending, nor is there the bar that I'd usually see.

When I go to the Recruitment link on the regional homepage, it says that I do not have permission to view it. I am the founder of my region, and I am also the only nation who is the "Recruitment Officer". However, I am prohibited from doing anything and the progress just isn't going. Everything else on the page is also prohibited.

I will look into it.

[Roski]

Hey, am I the only one noticing that sometimes it won't let you log in?

[Sseroffa]

Hey, am I the only one noticing that sometimes it won't let you log in?

Can you be more specific? Log you into what? Log you into where?

[Roski]

Hey, am I the only one noticing that sometimes it won't let you log in?

Can you be more specific? Log you into what? Log you into where?

Log into my puppets. I'll click on one of the nations, and it will load for 50 seconds, then not log in at all, and log you out of the current account. I usually have to click it several times for it to work.

[Sseroffa]

Can you be more specific? Log you into what? Log you into where?

Log into my puppets. I'll click on one of the nations, and it will load for 50 seconds, then not log in at all, and log you out of the current account. I usually have to click it several times for it to work.

Can you tell me what browser and version you are on?

[Roski]

Log into my puppets. I'll click on one of the nations, and it will load for 50 seconds, then not log in at all, and log you out of the current account. I usually have to click it several times for it to work.

Can you tell me what browser and version you are on?

Google Chrome 32x
NationStates++ v2.4.3

[Protector of Mother Russia]

How do I add a header to my newspaper?

[Sseroffa]

How do I add a header to my newspaper?

The image thing that a few regions have used? BBcodes.

[[violet]]

How is this going t affect already implemented features in the plugin, While I don't think this would happen, I don't knw, is the ads hiding, going to be removed, what about regional papers, and essentially everyhting else that been put in the project, I dn't think violet would do anything malicious, and by malicious I mean against the project and affecting the users, I don't think she's do anything malicious aganst the users either though, but on the project Are we still going to have puppet switchers, are we still going to have all the features from befre, and the ability to turn them on and off, is NSwiki, going to be owned by NS, if so are we going t have to use it, or will NSwiki get shut down in hopes of us using the in game factbooks more, or are both going to be allowed to exist, Are decisions that are good for the site but possible bad for users ging to be implemnted like the ones I mentioned above.

There's no plan to shut down anything or remove any features, except probably for the ad-blocking. (Since there are other extensions for ad-blocking, and it duplicates an NS Store feature.) Removing stuff would defeat the purpose of acquiring it in the first place.

Right now my goal is to transfer everything over and keep it working. This is a job, as will be simple maintenance, since it's a big deal to take on someone else's software project. Beyond that, though, I would ideally like to keep NS++, NS Wiki, and NS Archive going and growing as independent projects. The details of how this happens I'm not sure of yet. But feel free to throw in ideas and speculation! I can't give hard answers to questions about what the future holds, but we can figure it out together.

[United States of Natan]

How is this going t affect already implemented features in the plugin, While I don't think this would happen, I don't knw, is the ads hiding, going to be removed, what about regional papers, and essentially everyhting else that been put in the project, I dn't think violet would do anything malicious, and by malicious I mean against the project and affecting the users, I don't think she's do anything malicious aganst the users either though, but on the project Are we still going to have puppet switchers, are we still going to have all the features from befre, and the ability to turn them on and off, is NSwiki, going to be owned by NS, if so are we going t have to use it, or will NSwiki get shut down in hopes of us using the in game factbooks more, or are both going to be allowed to exist, Are decisions that are good for the site but possible bad for users ging to be implemnted like the ones I mentioned above.

There's no plan to shut down anything or remove any features, except probably for the ad-blocking. (Since there are other extensions for ad-blocking, and it duplicates an NS Store feature.) Removing stuff would defeat the purpose of acquiring it in the first place.

Right now my goal is to transfer everything over and keep it working. This is a job, as will be simple maintenance, since it's a big deal to take on someone else's software project. Beyond that, though, I would ideally like to keep NS++, NS Wiki, and NS Archive going and growing as independent projects. The details of how this happens I'm not sure of yet. But feel free to throw in ideas and speculation! I can't give hard answers to questions about what the future holds, but we can figure it out together.

I have just one request: that you add the regional assembly that Afforess planned, and that you consider the additional ideas that I came up with for it, located on the place where Afforess has people propose features for NS++.

[[violet]]

I have just one request: that you add the regional assembly that Afforess planned, and that you consider the additional ideas that I came up with for it, located on the place where Afforess has people propose features for NS++.

I will have a look over the code when I get it, but I don't expect to be rolling out major new NS++ features, at least not in the short-term.

[Todd McCloud]

There's no plan to shut down anything or remove any features, except probably for the ad-blocking. (Since there are other extensions for ad-blocking, and it duplicates an NS Store feature.) Removing stuff would defeat the purpose of acquiring it in the first place.

Right now my goal is to transfer everything over and keep it working. This is a job, as will be simple maintenance, since it's a big deal to take on someone else's software project. Beyond that, though, I would ideally like to keep NS++, NS Wiki, and NS Archive going and growing as independent projects. The details of how this happens I'm not sure of yet. But feel free to throw in ideas and speculation! I can't give hard answers to questions about what the future holds, but we can figure it out together.

I just want to say that this is awesome and you've made my day.

With respect to the archive (if I understand the archive being the wiki archive), I'd imagine it'd become needless if we can get the newer database back. It'd be really cool if we could retrieve it and hook it back up to peoples' nations, regions, the likes. It's all speculation at this point, but hey, nice to think out loud. Will the wiki be hosted on this site or will it be an entirely independent entity?

[Glen-Rhodes]

NSArchive is a collection of nation and region daily dumps. Not exactly one of the flashier things Afforess has made

[Frisbeeteria]

(if I understand the archive being the wiki archive),

Sorry, no. It's a collection of Daily Dumps from the API.

Will the wiki be hosted on this site or will it be an entirely independent entity?

We don't know yet where it will be physically hosted or how it will be tied to game pages, but it WILL be owned by NationStates. So in some respects, it will not be independent at all. It'll probably be organized like other wikis, meaning that volunteer Editors and Bureaucrats will added based on consensus. We're nowhere near that stage yet, though.

[Todd McCloud]

(if I understand the archive being the wiki archive),

Sorry, no. It's a collection of Daily Dumps from the API.

My mistake, forgot about that one

Will the wiki be hosted on this site or will it be an entirely independent entity?

We don't know yet where it will be physically hosted or how it will be tied to game pages, but it WILL be owned by NationStates. So in some respects, it will not be independent at all. It'll probably be organized like other wikis, meaning that volunteer Editors and Bureaucrats will added based on consensus. We're nowhere near that stage yet, though.

Sounds great!

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

I will have a look over the code when I get it, but I don't expect to be rolling out major new NS++ features, at least not in the short-term.

Please please pretty please at least add the ability to sort/organize our puppet lists. From what I got, it wasn't a *major* piece of work, and would make one of the handiest features a lot more user-friendly. Just being able to put them in something like folders or tabs, maybe even move them (basically like your average bookmarks setup) would be awesome for those of us with many puppets for many purposes.

Begging you on my hands and knees here

Thanks for reading *leaves magic never-ending cookies*

[Shizensky]

I will have a look over the code when I get it, but I don't expect to be rolling out major new NS++ features, at least not in the short-term.

Please please pretty please at least add the ability to sort/organize our puppet lists. From what I got, it wasn't a *major* piece of work, and would make one of the handiest features a lot more user-friendly. Just being able to put them in something like folders or tabs, maybe even move them (basically like your average bookmarks setup) would be awesome for those of us with many puppets for many purposes.

I overcame this by exporting my puppets in sets. Since we don't have folders or anything to organize them, different types of puppets were grouped and exported together. I could clear my puppets and just upload my switchers, for example.