NS World Adjustments : Census Report Rankings

[Unibot]

I already suggested a, ‘most patriotic nation’ ranking, to a certain mod – and apparently that was already deemed inapplicable because citizens are always behind their nation’s leaders, 100%. So I kind of altered my idea a bit….

In this essay; http://eprints.utas.edu.au/788/1/OMNI.20.2.07, the author writes about the way one could create a national index for formulating national identity – as well he identifies the key components of a strong national identity which includes political stability and many other factors. His concluding formula has my brain spinning in circles once he starts mentioning ‘the vector of the error’, ‘exogenous concepts’ and ‘matrixes’ – so instead I figured I’d post the key parts so a formula for national identity could be derived (its very Orwellian).

• Propaganda (Freedom of the Press?)


• Moral Superiority (Caused by ‘moral decency’)


• The Age of the Nation (Population will do in NS’s cases)


• Lack of Private Conversation (Surveillance will end this)


• Lack of Tourism & Commerce


• Obliteration of Individualism (Civil Rights?)


• Appraisal of National Heroes, Figures.


• National Security (Defense)


• Lower Political Freedoms (to stabilize the government)


• Strong, Stable Economy


• No internal conflicts (less crime)

Now, I have no intention of making a ‘Most National Identified Nation’ ranking so much as, ‘Most Xenophobic Nation’ ranking. Which I think would be interested, because National Identity is considered the prevailing factor in National Xenophobia.

The inverse would make a good, ‘Most International Accepting Nation’ ranking, I suppose.

What do you think!?

[New South Hell]

Lovely.

Last year, Sirocco added a bunch of rankings, and said he was interested in suggestions for more. This looks like just what he was asking for.

[Valipac]

I believe Age of Nation has already been implemented. If I remember correctly. But I'm fairly certain.

[Unibot]

I believe Age of Nation has already been implemented. If I remember correctly. But I'm fairly certain.

I believe its Largest Population, which is basically the same thing as Age in NS - except for nation's that die and return (which disrupts their pop. growth).

However I wasn't actually suggesting that- the point of the info in the list is for it to be used as factors in a 'Most Xenophobic Nation' ranking.

[Unibot]

If anyone has any other ideas for a new Census Report - you can suggest it here by the way. I don't mind.

Thats why I called it vaguely, 'NS World Adjustments : Census Report Rankings'.

I'll add you're idea to the big list beside mine too. (like always)

[Sirocco]

Some nice suggestions there. The ones I like:

Freedom of the press
Privacy (not as sure about this one but it's doable)

And I'm going to veto the rest because they're either too similar to existing ones or undesirable (there's no universal way of measuring who has moral superirority over another).

Keep the suggestions coming though.

[Valipac]

Some nice suggestions there. The ones I like:

Freedom of the press
Privacy (not as sure about this one but it's doable)

And I'm going to veto the rest because they're either too similar to existing ones or undesirable (there's no universal way of measuring who has moral superirority over another).

Keep the suggestions coming though.

I think what he is suggesting is combining all of those rankings to create a new one, not creating new rankings for each of the things listed. I thought that as well at first.

[Klaus Devestatorie]

Population is not a perfect representation of age, some nations grow slower than others.

[Peisandros]

As long as I stay on top of income equality!

On a more serious note, how about something like most cellphones or fastest internet.. Few more technological ones, as I can't think of to many off the top of my head.

[Sirocco]

Oh, I see. So this is more of a list of which nations are the most 1984-like?

[Bears Armed]

On a more serious note, how about something like most cellphones or fastest internet.

Maybe, but you run into the "differing Tech Levels" problem there...

How about 'Largest Bee-keeping Industry'?

[Badness Gracious]

Now, I have no intention of making a ‘Most National Identified Nation’ ranking so much as, ‘Most Xenophobic Nation’ ranking. Which I think would be interested, because National Identity is considered the prevailing factor in National Xenophobia.

I think this phrase describes Unibot's ultimate intent.

And, knowing Sirocco, I rather suspect the implementation of "Most Xenophobic" might not be exactly what Unibot suggested anyway...

[Unibot]

Oh, I see. So this is more of a list of which nations are the most 1984-like?

In all essessce thats' what I'm suggesting, though it corrolates to the 'Most Xenophobic' as with all politically stable nations - like Orwell's Oceania (remember Oceania's xenophobia to foriegners?)

[Unibot]

Freedom of the press

I think that would make a good ranking though too.

there's no universal way of measuring who has moral superirority over another).

Whatever the 'Moral Decency' WA category effects, and a lack of Education - would account for 'Moral Superiority'. I'd think.

[Sirocco]

Moral decency in the WA's case is a euphemism for lowering civil rights.

[Unibot]

Moral decency in the WA's case is a euphemism for lowering civil rights.

Exactly. ?

Though America in the 20th century used their mid-range political freedoms as a moral standing over other countries with lower political freedoms. Like, Woodrow Wilson's grand, "to salvage democracy" speeches and such.

It could be that a low political freedoms indicates political stability and high political freedoms indicates a moral high ground (with a lack of education). But both are indicators of Xenophobia. So that would balance out the equation with a mid poltical freedoms nation having the most xenophobia (with all of the other functions as applied well). Like a quadratic formula.

For example, In 1984, Oceania would have mid political freedoms because the people are given the appearance of "political freedoms", but in the end of the day, its a tyranny-by-majority or a Benovalent Dictatorship (depending on if you believe Big Brother is real or not).

[Zwangzug]

I think there could be one about nationalism versus...multiculturalism? It might be affected by issues about accepting immigrants, or maybe even something about military size? As a rah-rah military might be more closely linked to jingoism or whatever? Just throwing stuff out...

[The Animal Union]

"The Most Sac-religious Nations" is one.
"The Most Anti-business Nations" is another. And
"The Most Liberal Nations" is number three.

[Unibot]

"The Most Sac-religious Nations" is one.
"The Most Anti-business Nations" is another. And
"The Most Liberal Nations" is number three.

Actually you'll find those are already implemented.

With the Most Liberal Nations and the bottomfeeders of the Most Pro-Market Nations & Most Devout Nations ranking.

A good list of them is here, http://www.nswiki.net/index.php?title=UN_Rankings

[Unibot]

I think there could be one about nationalism versus...multiculturalism? It might be affected by issues about accepting immigrants, or maybe even something about military size? As a rah-rah military might be more closely linked to jingoism or whatever? Just throwing stuff out...

A 'Most Jingoistic Military' would be great!