Nation name release!

[Flanderlion]

The criterion most likely to be adjusted is the population limit, which may rise from 500M. We might move to a system where it's 100M or so for each inactive year. So after 5 years it's 500M and after 10 years it's 1B.

With soiled names, the majority were zapped for the name itself. There are many tens of thousands of them, and if they were released, mods would have to start all over, banning the same names again. Mods could manually mark some soiled names as available for reuse in extraordinary cases, though.

You'd think people would have run out of ways to try and sneak "penis" into account names by now.

I've seen some masterpieces, but the majority are fairly meh. Pen Island was only got in 2013 though, so there has to be a lot more out there, just waiting for someone smart enough to sneak it in. Also, I can see a few on our banlist which the mods haven't spotted yet, I think Feeders should get a double length ban list for the amount of new nations we have to gift to TRR.

So if there was a nation soiled that we wanted, would it have to be under a certain pop (and obviously not someone's main). Also, the person who lost the nation in the first place couldn't regain it from scratch right? Would the player who lost the nation in the first place retain a right of veto? If I accidentally messed up the rate limit, got my main deleted, I wouldn't want some stranger having my nation name.

[Diamacia]

I've seen some masterpieces, but the majority are fairly meh. Pen Island was only got in 2013 though, so there has to be a lot more out there, just waiting for someone smart enough to sneak it in. Also, I can see a few on our banlist which the mods haven't spotted yet, I think Feeders should get a double length ban list for the amount of new nations we have to gift to TRR.

So if there was a nation soiled that we wanted, would it have to be under a certain pop (and obviously not someone's main). Also, the person who lost the nation in the first place couldn't regain it from scratch right? Would the player who lost the nation in the first place retain a right of veto? If I accidentally messed up the rate limit, got my main deleted, I wouldn't want some stranger having my nation name.

Pen Island. That was a Smosh joke.

[Reploid Productions]

Also, I can see a few on our banlist which the mods haven't spotted yet

Help us spot them, plz?

[Mousebumples]

Also, I can see a few on our banlist which the mods haven't spotted yet

Help us spot them, plz?

I'd even suggest clicking on the nation name and then the report link in the lower right corner of the page. I mean, if you've got multiples (i.e. more than 2 or 3), then just a general GHR with all the names is good, but the report button is awesome for ease of investigating stuff that's being reported.

[The Cross and Davids Star]

What does it mean when a nation is disgraced?

[Phydios]

What does it mean when a nation is disgraced?

Mod-deleted for rules violations.

[Neos Ptolemaion]

I understand it's a bit strong, but I am in full support of doing away with the strict restrictions. Population should not be a factor. I had to go way out of my comfort zone to get the current name I have. I don't actually have an issue with it (quite the opposite, really). But we're holding so many historically significant and currently significant names away just because the person managed more than 500 million citizens. Go ahead to the Boneyard and look up "All the Russias". A Russian imperial title was "Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias". The last time the owner logged in was March 2006. I could literally have gotten the name twice in the time the person has been offline. They're simply not coming back. I doubt they even remember this website.

Let's go ahead and find Germany. Ah, a population of 7.443 billion people. It's a lot, but they have been offline for nearly eight years. A child born the day after the nation fell would be finishing up second grade/year 3. I'd bring more examples (I certainly have them), but I feel my point has been made. Please loosen the restrictions on names that are derived from real life or are significant; five years means they're not coming back. And if they somehow do rediscover the site and remember their nation name and password, it sucks to suck, maybe you should have taken the time out of your day once every 30 days to log in.

[Phydios]

I understand it's a bit strong, but I am in full support of doing away with the strict restrictions. Population should not be a factor. I had to go way out of my comfort zone to get the current name I have. I don't actually have an issue with it (quite the opposite, really). But we're holding so many historically significant and currently significant names away just because the person managed more than 500 million citizens. Go ahead to the Boneyard and look up "All the Russias". A Russian imperial title was "Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias". The last time the owner logged in was March 2006. I could literally have gotten the name twice in the time the person has been offline. They're simply not coming back. I doubt they even remember this website.

Let's go ahead and find Germany. Ah, a population of 7.443 billion people. It's a lot, but they have been offline for nearly eight years. A child born the day after the nation fell would be finishing up second grade/year 3. I'd bring more examples (I certainly have them), but I feel my point has been made. Please loosen the restrictions on names that are derived from real life or are significant; five years means they're not coming back. And if they somehow do rediscover the site and remember their nation name and password, it sucks to suck, maybe you should have taken the time out of your day once every 30 days to log in.

People have come back after much more than five years. The mods and admins would rather keep nations available in case that happens than let people make another puppet just to snap up the name. You don't need any specific name, but someone that comes back and finds their nation gone just might be discouraged enough to leave again, even if they expected it to be gone. Like it or hate it, it's just the decision that's been made. That said, there's been some mentions lately of maybe raising the limit to 750 million.

[Imperium Anglorum]

What is the current order of precedence in the reason why a nation's name cannot be reused?

[The Blaatschapen]

What is the current order of precedence in the reason why a nation's name cannot be reused?

Does it matter?

If any of the reasons is true, then the nation name cannot be reused at this moment.

So there's no precedence, except what the boneyard gives out as a reason.

[North America and the Pacific Islands]

Why reserve the most wanted names? A lot of these people won't ever come back so it's kind of a kick in the face.

[Vietnam]

I understand it's a bit strong, but I am in full support of doing away with the strict restrictions. Population should not be a factor. I had to go way out of my comfort zone to get the current name I have. I don't actually have an issue with it (quite the opposite, really). But we're holding so many historically significant and currently significant names away just because the person managed more than 500 million citizens. Go ahead to the Boneyard and look up "All the Russias". A Russian imperial title was "Emperor and Autocrat of All the Russias". The last time the owner logged in was March 2006. I could literally have gotten the name twice in the time the person has been offline. They're simply not coming back. I doubt they even remember this website.

Let's go ahead and find Germany. Ah, a population of 7.443 billion people. It's a lot, but they have been offline for nearly eight years. A child born the day after the nation fell would be finishing up second grade/year 3. I'd bring more examples (I certainly have them), but I feel my point has been made. Please loosen the restrictions on names that are derived from real life or are significant; five years means they're not coming back. And if they somehow do rediscover the site and remember their nation name and password, it sucks to suck, maybe you should have taken the time out of your day once every 30 days to log in.

Tbh 95% of the reason people want bigger pop limits is so they can get names like these, but there's barely any of these names (also if Germany was released there is like 0% chance you would grab it) and frankly there are numerous other good names that can be grabbed that aren't RL places or something historical

[Bears Armed]

and frankly there are numerous other good names that can be grabbed that aren't RL places or something historical

Agreed. The last five [non-RL] names that I checked were all available... and so far I've only taken two of them.

[Bruination]

I think there should be an option for someone to let their nation CTE and not be reserved (after 5 years or so). Let it be up to each person. Perhaps a checkbox that appears in Settings after a certain population milestone that says "Reserve this name indefinitely upon ceasing to exist." (And is checked by default?)

As it is, nobody has a choice, and names are reserved for people whether they want them to be or not. I have let puppets CTE that I will never restore, and yet they are reserved indefinitely for... essentially nobody. I don't want them, and I can't let anyone else have them. I bet many names that are reserved are ones that the creator has no intention of restoring and wouldn't mind other people having, but the site never implemented a way to distinguish them.

Of course, this would only be useful for nations created in the future, not in the past.

[MassModania]

THIS IS GREAT WE WILL GET SO MUCH MORE COUNTRYS THIS WAY!

[Kadmark]

I actually have come back after 5 years, so there's that.

What I'm curious about is if I can revive/reset one of my alt nations. I can't remember the password for the life of me, and I never set an email (that feature may not have existed last time I logged in) so the password can't be recovered. Can I recover it or am I out of luck?

[Cresenthia]

I actually have come back after 5 years, so there's that.

What I'm curious about is if I can revive/reset one of my alt nations. I can't remember the password for the life of me, and I never set an email (that feature may not have existed last time I logged in) so the password can't be recovered. Can I recover it or am I out of luck?

Out of luck.

[Phydios]

I actually have come back after 5 years, so there's that.

What I'm curious about is if I can revive/reset one of my alt nations. I can't remember the password for the life of me, and I never set an email (that feature may not have existed last time I logged in) so the password can't be recovered. Can I recover it or am I out of luck?

File a GHR. The mods can't make any guarantee of help, but in the past, they have advised people in this situation to give it a shot anyway. Include anything that might help prove the nation is yours (which should include every possible thing you can remember about it).

[Nova Roma et agros captos]

I was thinking for an idea to solve the tension over IRL country names.
All IRL country names (including widely supported disputed countries) should be taken over by NationStates itself.
If a mod has the time (which i doubt they would - you guys seem to have to do a lot round here) they could answer issues based on the values of that country.

[USS Monitor]

I was thinking for an idea to solve the tension over IRL country names.
All IRL country names (including widely supported disputed countries) should be taken over by NationStates itself.
If a mod has the time (which i doubt they would - you guys seem to have to do a lot round here) they could answer issues based on the values of that country.

I think mods have better things to do, and it wouldn't be fair to anyone that currently has an RL country's name. If two people want the same name, they can't both have it, but it makes sense to at least make one of them happy.

[Luxembourg]

I was thinking for an idea to solve the tension over IRL country names.
All IRL country names (including widely supported disputed countries) should be taken over by NationStates itself.
If a mod has the time (which i doubt they would - you guys seem to have to do a lot round here) they could answer issues based on the values of that country.

How about no.

[Ardoki]

A while ago, someone took heaps of names related to 'Ardoki' (e.g. New Ardoki, Ardokia, South Ardoki, North Ardoki, etcetera) in an effort to troll me and they were deleted by moderators.

Does that mean I can never access those names if I ever need them? Have the moderators introduced measures to prevent people taking related names in the future?

Thanks.

[Flanderlion]

A while ago, someone took heaps of names related to 'Ardoki' (e.g. New Ardoki, Ardokia, South Ardoki, North Ardoki, etcetera) in an effort to troll me and they were deleted by moderators.

Does that mean I can never access those names if I ever need them? Have the moderators introduced measures to prevent people taking related names in the future?

Thanks.

Atm. there is no way, moderator deleted nations remain deleted forever. It's been discussed before about allowing soiled nation names back into circulation, but given the majority of nations like that are for bad names, it's likely going to be case by case, if it happens at all. It'd add more work for mods to reject/allow nations.

[Phydios]

Atm. there is no way, moderator deleted nations remain deleted forever.

This simply isn't true. Mod-deleted nations have been resurrected before- the first example that comes to mind is when a guy called Texasa claimed to be a user of Predator and got himself in a whole lot of trouble, including the deletion of his main nation. After he finally submitted a coherent appeal, his nation was restored. I'm certain that's far from the only case.

[Flanderlion]

Atm. there is no way, moderator deleted nations remain deleted forever.

This simply isn't true. Mod-deleted nations have been resurrected before- the first example that comes to mind is when a guy called Texasa claimed to be a user of Predator and got himself in a whole lot of trouble, including the deletion of his main nation. After he finally submitted a coherent appeal, his nation was restored. I'm certain that's far from the only case.

That is them manually reversing the deletion. That said, I could have reworded that. Basically, if a mod/admin deletes a nation, it doesn't become undeleted unless a mod/admin manually undeletes it. Unless this rare occurrence happens (vast majority of soiled nations remain soiled), there is no way for all intents and purposes to reuse the name for a new nation, which is what this thread is about.