Nation name release!

by **Goobergunchia** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:13 pm

Milograd wrote:Is there a way to go about making sure that your name can never be recycled?

This sounds selfish, I know.

Pass a WA resolution or write an issue.

by **The lepearchauns** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:26 pm

I CAN HAVE MY NAME SPELLED RIGHT! AT LONG LAST!!!! :clap:

by **[violet]** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:33 pm

Milograd wrote:Is there a way to go about making sure that your name can never be recycled?

Put it into any of the 10 mentioned categories. Easiest would be to log in every once in a while to make sure it accumulates a reasonable population.

by **[violet]** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 10:33 pm

Just as a tip, I wouldn't broadcast which nation name(s) you're interested in, for the same reason you wouldn't publicly declare a region that you wanted to refound.

by **The Murtunian Tribes** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:54 pm

It appears I have a few more disgraced nations than I remember.

by **Zonolia** » Sun Sep 18, 2011 11:59 pm

This sucks my old nation named after a nation in a novella i wrote, I can't use :C

so sad i didnt have an email back then lol

by **Aurora-Nova** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:04 am

I support this.

Also:

Available Soon! This name was used by a former nation, but will become available for re-use in in 40 days.

Duplicate word bolded.

by **Arumdaum** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:08 am

I think that nations that have posted on the forum shouldn't be up for release as well....

by **Aurora-Nova** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:14 am

Arumdaum wrote:I think that nations that have posted on the forum shouldn't be up for release as well....

Although I disagree because that would likely eliminate 95% of all the nations currently up for release, I do see that it is likely to cause problems. Have the administration anticipated these?

by **The Murtunian Tribes** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:41 am

Aurora-Nova wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:I think that nations that have posted on the forum shouldn't be up for release as well....

Although I disagree because that would likely eliminate 95% of all the nations currently up for release, I do see that it is likely to cause problems. Have the administration anticipated these?

These forums haven't existed that long. All nations to be revived must be 5+ years old.

by **Ballotonia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:51 am

Great feature!

Just double-checking: founding a pre-existing nation won't cause one to inherit the other nation's warnings, right?

EDIT: funny. I'm playing around with the feature and trying out nation names I might be interested in, and I bump into names which are readily available (never used before).

Ballotonia

by **Kostemetsia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:58 am

As a matter of curiosity, I checked in on an old puppet of mine, Alternate Kostemetsia, which CTE'd in 2008. I only ever logged into it once, as I recall, and it had a population of 326 million at CTE. While I don't want to be the guy who reasks a question that moderators have already dealt with, isn't it a bit of a problem if nations can go over the population threshold without any interaction apart from founding?

by **Ballotonia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:01 am

Kostemetsia wrote:As a matter of curiosity, I checked in on an old puppet of mine, Alternate Kostemetsia, which CTE'd in 2008. I only ever logged into it once, as I recall, and it had a population of 326 million at CTE. While I don't want to be the guy who reasks a question that moderators have already dealt with, isn't it a bit of a problem if nations can go over the population threshold without any interaction apart from founding?

You probably put it on vacation mode, which is 60 days. That's indeed enough to put it well over the 250 million limit.

Ballotonia

by **-Acadia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:02 am

Awesome! I imagine there will be one hell of a rush for these old nations though. You can bet half of them will be snapped up purely for the fact you own that name and that they'll go inactive in time and thus, revert to their current status!

by **New Hayesalia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:02 am

Ballotonia wrote:Great feature!

Just double-checking: founding a pre-existing nation won't cause one to inherit the other nation's warnings, right?

EDIT: funny. I'm playing around with the feature and trying out nation names I might be interested in, and I bump into names which are readily available (never used before).

Ballotonia

Seeing as it's a new nation just with an old name, I'm pretty sure you'd be in the clear.

by **Kostemetsia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:05 am

Ballotonia wrote:
Kostemetsia wrote:As a matter of curiosity, I checked in on an old puppet of mine, Alternate Kostemetsia, which CTE'd in 2008. I only ever logged into it once, as I recall, and it had a population of 326 million at CTE. While I don't want to be the guy who reasks a question that moderators have already dealt with, isn't it a bit of a problem if nations can go over the population threshold without any interaction apart from founding?

You probably put it on vacation mode, which is 60 days. That's indeed enough to put it well over the 250 million limit.

Ballotonia

Interesting. Although I don't remember doing that, you may be right.

by **Melkor Unchained** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:07 am

Aurora-Nova wrote:
Arumdaum wrote:I think that nations that have posted on the forum shouldn't be up for release as well....

Although I disagree because that would likely eliminate 95% of all the nations currently up for release, I do see that it is likely to cause problems. Have the administration anticipated these?

NS has ~220,000 registered forum accounts, and just ballparking it I'd say a bit over 10% have posted in the forum. Of those, well over ten thousand have less than thirty posts. It's something to think about, but I doubt it'll be a huge problem.
(the above was written while I was well under halfway through researching this, and I didn't expect the population of people with <100 posts to be so large. It took me a while to put a finer point on it:

47,795 different accounts have posted to NS. However, a huge proportion of these accounts have very few posts. The bottom 30,000 contributors have between 1 and 12 posts. Only ~10k of forum-active accounts have more than 25 posts, and a little over a thousand of us have (heh) a thousand or more posts.

I could see us reserving nations that achieve a certain number of forum posts, but they would be a tiny minority at any reasonable limit.

by **Anemos Major** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:12 am

Anemos: 370 million.

Goddamn it!

by **Vecherd** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:16 am

An Awesome feature, once the rules are loosened it will be even sweeter.

by **United Gordonopia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:57 am

Because of the 5 year rule for reviving nations, it doesn't matter if they have posted on the forums of not. The forums as you know them now have only existed since mid-2009. Before that they were the Jolt forums and long, long before that we had self-hosted forums though they were separate from now. Since any nation that's more than 5 years dead wouldn't have posts on this forum, it wouldn't matter if they've posted on a forum.

by **Northwest Slobovia** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:05 am

Most excellent!

:clap:

There's a few names on my little list...

by **Sanctaria** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 8:53 am

Ballotonia wrote:Great feature!

Just double-checking: founding a pre-existing nation won't cause one to inherit the other nation's warnings, right?

This. When you give your nation away to someone, if you have a warning level that new person inherits that too. I'm assuming this isn't the case here, right?

by **Mousebumples** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 9:24 am

When the Boneyard says, for example: Available Soon! This name was used by a former nation, but will become available for re-use in in 16 days. is there a certain time at which names will become available? I'd presume the updates would be the most likely times, but I'm sure for some ... perhaps contested/widely desired nation names, having some idea as to when would be ... helpful.

If the mods/admins don't care to share, totally fine. That adds a ... wild-card quality to all of this. Of course, if those of you who are claiming these purged names, I'd be curious to see "when" names are being released. (If only so I could add it to the FAQ.)

Also: will this "5 year period" be a rolling 5 years? i.e. Nations that are only 4 years CTEd right now would become available after another year? That would make sense, but I'm not sure on what process you all have in mind.

Yours in curiosity.

EDIT: Were nation names ever previously released? I didn't think so, but when I did a search on "America" I got the following result:

Deleted nation America
Founded: Mon Jan 24 2005
Last activity: Sun May 4 2008
Population: 4.785 billion
Ancient nation America
Founded: Antiquity
Last activity: Tue Nov 26 2002
Population: 141 million

Anyone aware of anything that I (apparently) missed over the past 8+ years that I've been around NS?

by **Melkor Unchained** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:12 am

I think most/all (?) extant RL nations were reserved upon release. I don't think we've considered making them available with this update.

by **Sedgistan** » Mon Sep 19, 2011 10:14 am

On a quick check, England, Canada and Mexico will apparently be available with this release...

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