Nation name release!

[Luna Amore]

And where are those spammers now?

It'd be against people's interests to just spam with their puppets, as there would be the possibility of the permanent deletion of all their nations.

And... the mods would be way to busy deating, they wouldn't have time for "Oh, Blahblahistan called me a n00b. Do something! "

And, Luna, if you think my requirements are too light, what would you add to them?

I'd keep a population requirement. It's the simplest way to determine how much someone 'cared' about their nation for lack of a better word and to avoid releasing names that shouldn't be released.

I don't have access to how many nation names are currently locked up and never to be used again, but that number should be the driving factor behind upping the limit, not 'this nation I want is just outside of the limit, we need to raise it.'

[Arumdaum]

And where are those spammers now?

It'd be against people's interests to just spam with their puppets, as there would be the possibility of the permanent deletion of all their nations.

And... the mods would be way to busy deating, they wouldn't have time for "Oh, Blahblahistan called me a n00b. Do something! "

And, Luna, if you think my requirements are too light, what would you add to them?

You're blowing things out of proportion. Your posts are making me believe that the only person desperate enough to grab all the nations they can and then keep them for themselves is just you, really.

Heck, let's not forget about the possibility of impersonating others. Someone could merely claim that they lost the nation's password and refounded it after it CTEd. They could then do things to damage the original poster's (who could very well return) reputation. I could very well claim your nation, pretend to be you, and make a stream of ridiculous posts.

[Indian Empire]

A nation having forum posts being reserved I think would only encourage spam. Under your guidelines, If I made a nation named Blahblah, and then I came to the forums and posted this



Boom, Blahblah can no longer be used.

I would just see it as encouraging spam, and I would work as a system to where players whatever they want to be locked up- well- locked up.

What's wrong with locking up the names of nations you have? Why do you need the names of posters? There certainly isn't any shortage of nation names on the game.

What do you suggest we do then, in regards to nation that have posted a significant amount?

I don't think it should be one post, but this certainly is a good idea. But, by monster limit, I mean a 5 digit post count.

[Indian Empire]

Arumdaum, Keep in mind they would be seperate profiles. MAYBE we should give them a chance to refound, hut certainly a smaller window than 5 years. Maybe 6 months or a year.

[Indian Empire]

And... the mods would be way to busy deating, they wouldn't have time for "Oh, Blahblahistan called me a n00b. Do something! "

And, Luna, if you think my requirements are too light, what would you add to them?

You're blowing things out of proportion. Your posts are making me believe that the only person desperate enough to grab all the nations they can and then keep them for themselves is just you, really.

Heck, let's not forget about the possibility of impersonating others. Someone could merely claim that they lost the nation's password and refounded it after it CTEd. They could then do things to damage the original poster's (who could very well return) reputation. I could very well claim your nation, pretend to be you, and make a stream of ridiculous posts.

Also, I'm not looking to have more puppets. 5 is plenty.

[Jinwoy]

Why not just have the population decline while they are CTE, and once it reaches zero
!-bam-!
name released.

[Arumdaum]

Arumdaum, Keep in mind they would be seperate profiles. MAYBE we should give them a chance to refound, hut certainly a smaller window than 5 years. Maybe 6 months or a year.

You really think giving people the chance to refound their nations and return to NS should just be a maybe?

[Indian Empire]

Why not just have the population decline while they are CTE, and once it reaches zero
!-bam-!
name released.

Also a great idea.now, would it decline at the same rate, faster, or slower than population increases?

[Indian Empire]

Arumdaum, Keep in mind they would be seperate profiles. MAYBE we should give them a chance to refound, hut certainly a smaller window than 5 years. Maybe 6 months or a year.

You really think giving people the chance to refound their nations and return to NS should just be a maybe?

A better idea would be to release the name after the amount of days it existed. Since my nation has been here just over 2 years, it would take well- just over two years, ti refound my nation.

[Kaboomlandia]

You really think giving people the chance to refound their nations and return to NS should just be a maybe?

A better idea would be to release the name after the amount of days it existed. Since my nation has been here just over 2 years, it would take well- just over two years, ti refound my nation.

Two years (which is about 2 billion people) is the amount of time that I have been playing this game (on/off) and it's well over the current mark. Nah.

[Jinwoy]

Why not just have the population decline while they are CTE, and once it reaches zero
!-bam-!
name released.

Also a great idea.now, would it decline at the same rate, faster, or slower than population increases?

it declines using the inverse of the algorithm used to make it grow.

[Frisbeeteria]

Why not just have the population decline while they are CTE, and once it reaches zero
!-bam-!
name released.

Also a great idea.now, would it decline at the same rate, faster, or slower than population increases?

Dead nations don't go through update. That's because we can run about 140,000 active nations through update in about 2 hours. Adding another 4 million nations would lengthen update ... just a bit.

[Religionous]

Also a great idea.now, would it decline at the same rate, faster, or slower than population increases?

Dead nations don't go through update. That's because we can run about 140,000 active nations through update in about 2 hours. Adding another 4 million nations would lengthen update ... just a bit.

Also, if a nation with 25 billion people were to CTE next month, it would take approximately 11 years to get back in the pool.

[Riemstagrad]

why change a good rule?

The current system is good enough, and easy to change some variables in the future when needed.

[Parhe]

Probably won't exactly like me more but if a post on a non F7 forum was the only need and there was no more limit on population I might "spam" to keep the nations up. With all the threads in the Factbook area and NSG, where you can literally make posts of a few words or even one, it wouldn't at all be difficult.

That said, like others mentioned it is not at all difficult to think of nation names. Even if you want a popular nation it isn't really that difficult; the good thing about NS is that English is the main language and English uses largely the Latin Alphabet, which many other languages do (I mean, if this site was Hangul or even Classical Chinese it might be a bit difficult to be creative).

[Maltropia]

Question: did anyone ever re~found a nation that had posted before and post with it? If so, how were they differentiated? I remember that came up as a potential issue back in September and I don't recall seeing the resolution.

[Luna Amore]

I refounded a nation that had a prior post a while back. It's like the original never died. It still shows the forum account founded date back in 2009. If the post weren't in a locked topic, I bet I could edit it.

[Enfaru]

I refounded a nation that had a prior post a while back. It's like the original never died. It still shows the forum account founded date back in 2009. If the post weren't in a locked topic, I bet I could edit it.

Uhm... o_O can someone check this because if so, then this is a strong argument to have nations locked away forever and never ever release the names.

[Indian Empire]

I refounded a nation that had a prior post a while back. It's like the original never died. It still shows the forum account founded date back in 2009. If the post weren't in a locked topic, I bet I could edit it.

Never knew that. Maybe some bit of coding could be added so It knows to differentiate the two.

[Enfaru]

I refounded a nation that had a prior post a while back. It's like the original never died. It still shows the forum account founded date back in 2009. If the post weren't in a locked topic, I bet I could edit it.

Never knew that. Maybe some bit of coding could be added so It knows to differentiate the two.

Where names are changeable, Unique ID numbers are assigned, however in most forums nowadays it appears that usernames are supposed to be the unique identifier. If what Luna says is correct it means that the unique identifier on the game side is also the nation name. Every user on the forums would have to be assigned a unique number and every nation would also have to have a unique number (these should match up in the same way that usernames do). In theory this might not take a lot of time to implement but it could break the forums in terms of future upgrades (last I checked the administrators are against doing anything that means they might not get their security upgrades).

It would also add a marginal amount of overhead to the server. It *could* open the way to potential nation name changes however. I just don't see such a change being implemented. In fact it would be faster and easier to just shut down any name future name releases. In order to protect the copyright of the original users (no matter how long they have been gone, last I checked most copyrights were about 30 years after the death of the original author).

[Estenia]

A better idea would be to release the name after the amount of days it existed. Since my nation has been here just over 2 years, it would take well- just over two years, ti refound my nation.

Two years (which is about 2 billion people) is the amount of time that I have been playing this game (on/off) and it's well over the current mark. Nah.

It is 4 billion people because 2 billion people is one year and since I am one year, I know it.

[Commerce Heights]

Question: did anyone ever re~found a nation that had posted before and post with it? If so, how were they differentiated? I remember that came up as a potential issue back in September and I don't recall seeing the resolution.

The ancient nation gets “(Ancient)” added to its forum name, like this.

[Riemstagrad]

Where names are changeable, Unique ID numbers are assigned, however in most forums nowadays it appears that usernames are supposed to be the unique identifier. If what Luna says is correct it means that the unique identifier on the game side is also the nation name.

There are unique identifires for forum accounts.

check the profile URL's.

[Luna Amore]

Where names are changeable, Unique ID numbers are assigned, however in most forums nowadays it appears that usernames are supposed to be the unique identifier. If what Luna says is correct it means that the unique identifier on the game side is also the nation name.

There are unique identifires for forum accounts.

check the profile URL's.

The nation I refounded kept the old forum account's ID too.

Here's the nation: Obidia. The boneyard has record of it being refounded, but the original is all that's present on the forum: memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3671

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*edit*, My first example seems to be an anomaly. I refounded another nation with posts and it changed the old user to (ancient) and created a new forum account for the new nation. Can't edit the past posts, two separate accounts.

[Kaboomlandia]

I've noticed there have been changes in which message is displayed in the Boneyard:
- Chester Pearson now says "site supporter"
- Nierr and The Doom Legions now say "soiled by a former nation (of significant size)

Was this fixing a glitch, or an intentional change?