**ABANDONED** Femme Fatale

[Ransium]

Title: Femme Fatale

Text: A recent study showed that of all the hurricanes that impacted @@NAME@@ in the last 20 years, hurricanes that were given feminine names killed 25% more people and caused 50% more damage than their masculine named counterparts.

validity: all

option: "This appears to be a simple case of unconscious bias," states Dr. @@RANDOMNAMEMALE@@, the study's author. "People just aren't taking the feminine storms as seriously, and by citizens not taking the proper precautions the storms become more deadly. Look at violent crime statistics, historical records, and simple biological dimorphism. Men are just scarier. For the safety of the common man, er... and woman, we need to start naming hurricanes only masculine names to properly communicate the danger these storms pose."
effect: poison ivy has been renamed poison fred

option: "That's like putting a bandage over gangrenous wound!" shouts @@RANDOMNAMEFEMALE@@, leader of '@@CAPITILIZE_DEMONYM_PLURAL@@ For Equality', @@NAME@@'s largest civil rights group. "It might seem like a silly thing, but this study just demonstrates the institutional bias women face on a daily basis. Nobody should be not taken seriously because of something like gender. We need yearly mandatory training for all of @@DEMONYM@@ to tackle the implicit biases of all of our citizens and create a more equal @@NAME@@ for everyone."
effect: discrete compression pillows sales are spiking before the start of @@NAME@@'s mandatory "Treat Everyone the Same, M'kay" training

option: "Uhh... I'm not seeing the issue," mumbles evolutionary biologist Chuck Doorwin, while inexplicably dissecting a frog on your desk. "Do we really need to cater to the most sexist of our citizens? It seems like a problem that solves itself over time. In fact, we could name all hurricanes female names, that way we can weed those who think the name of a natural disaster has anything to do with its danger out of the gene pool more quickly." Suddenly, frog blood begins spraying all over your desk. "Whoops... sorry! I guess that was the pulmonary artery! Let me get you a towel."
effect: emergency dispatchers probe callers about their views on minorities before sending ambulances

[Jutsa]

Hello, Ransium! I never thought I'd be reviewing one of your drafts, but here I go, I guess.

Feel free to leave anything you disagree with behind - especially since I might be wrong on certain accounts.

The Issue/Title/Validity:

Title: What Makes A BIg Wet Mess And Blows Hard?

I don't know, I think this title's probably a bit much...
Also, Big* Not BIg.

Uh... that's literally all I've got for this - except maybe something in he below thought.

Option 1:

"This appears to be a simple case of unconscious bias," states Dr. @@RANDOMNAMEMALE@@, the study's author. "Look at violent crime statistics, historical records, and simple biological dimorphism. Men are just scarier.

Uh... I thought the issue was that feminine names were used for deadlier storms? I could be misreading this,
but this looks more like an option for an issue where masculine names are use more for deadlier storms.

when a storm is approaching and that includes

I think a comma after and would do justice - though, as par usual, I'm not entirely certain.

For the safety of the common man, er... and woman

I think a -dash- between man and er, instead of a comma, would work better here.

poison ivy has been renamed poison fred

Good consequence. :3

Option 2:

"The's like putting a bandage over gangrenous wound!"

The's? You mean That's?

leader of '@@CAPITILIZE_DEMONYM_PLURAL@@ For Equality' @@NAME@@'s largest civil rights group.

Would "Equality For @@CDP@@" work better? I mean, this also works, I guess, if it's an organization that states your citizens are for equality.
I should also mention that a comma should appear after Equality'.

We need yearly mandatory training for all of @@DEMONYM@@ to tackle the implicit biases of all of our citizens and create a more equal @@NAME@@ for everyone."

I get equality and stuff, but I feel like there are two minor problems here.
1) I understand she's part of a civil rights group, and I get they're pro-equality, but doesn't it seem a little contradictory
for a pro-freedom person to demand that everyone has yearly mandatory training?
Also, 2) All of this, simply because more hurricanes happened to be named after females - or males... depending on how you fix up option 1/the description.
I mean, I understand it, but it seems just a little extreme. I'm sure it'll work, though, and it's probably just my relatively centrist bias taking over. *shrugs*

discrete compression pillows sales are spiking before the start of @@NAME@@'s mandatory "Treat Everyone the Same, M'kay" training

Ransium, surely you'd know that comma aren't supposed to exist in effect lines*.
Also, it's a little bit long, and I'm not entirely sure what discrete compression pillows have to do with anything?
I still say go for something like "complementing with someone of the opposite gender is a criminal offense", or something.

I'd like to finally add that I think mandatory classes are a bit... odd, for a hurricane issue? Surely, either removing names or just giving storms androgynous names would do better?

Option 3:

Chuck Doorwin, while inexplicable dissecting a frog on your desk.

Firstly, I highly approve of the Charles Darwin reference. Secondly, I think you mean inexplicably.

female names, that way we can weed those

I believe either a colon or a semi-colon belongs after names, instead of a comma.
I'd say use a colon, but I honestly only recently learned about their linking-explanations usage, so I'm not 100% certain.
Also, a comma should probably appear after way if that is done.

Suddenly frogs blood begins spraying all over your desk. "Whoops... sorry! I guess that was the pulmonary artery! Let me got you a towel."

Uh... gross. I guess it's fine, and adds a little flavor, but... my, it's a bit of a strange, unnecessary add-on?
Also, a comma after Suddenly, remove the s in frogs, and finally, got should be get.

emergency dispatchers probe callers about their views on minorities before sending ambulances

The same thing would probably happen if they were pro-equality, yes?
I don't know. It's a bit of an odd effect, but I suppose it could work. I can't think of a better one atm, anyways.

So, to summarize:
1) Fix a few words and some grammar;
2) Maybe edit a bit of wording;
3) Flip the genders somewhere, probably in the description;
4) Maybe make things a little more... player-friendly, although I don't think it's necessary, and;
5) I'm a bit confused about the issue at hand.

It's a rather interesting issue, and with some slightly peculiar options...
though, I'm not quite sure how I feel about them? I take it, the options are:
1) name dangerous things after males,
2) create mandatory equality meetings, and
3) name dangerous things female to cull equality extremists.

I'll leave it to you and other folks to work out if this is a good assortment.
It seems odd to me - especially given how extreme the options are,
just because a few more of the dangerous storms happened to be named after males/females...
but, then again, I'm mostly a grammatical nit-pick who makes mistakes frequently,
so it could just be the midnight oil getting to my head.

Good luck on your issue, Ransium!

[Frieden-und Freudenland]

As Jutsa said, I do not like the title.

Also, isn't the premise of this issue a bit weird? Why should I not dismiss it when I get it?

Can I make a suggestion on how you could change that?

I think it would be much better if you started out from the assumption that @@NAME@@ gives female names to all hurricanes. Remember, this was the case IRL as well, and male names started to be given to hurricanes only in 1978.

Then the options could be as follows:

1) A feminist says that this practice of giving female names to destructive storms is based on misogyny, and instead @@NAME@@ should be naming its storms after both men and women.

2) Here a person can say that it is actually a nice thing that storms have human names. Let us assume that the woman's name speaking here is Maria, and she says she was happy and proud when she happened to hear in the weather forecast that Hurricane Maria was approaching the Eastern Coast of @@NAME@@. And she suggests that people, men and women alike, should be given the right to pay money to the @@NAME@@ Meteorological Society to have hurricanes and suchlike named after them.

Do you think this is too weird? Hey, it happens in Europe!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/weather ... r-170.html

3) The compromise option where someone says that we should stop naming storms after people. Is this really necessary? He or she then suggests we should give storms numbers instead of names. For example, the first storm that strikes @@NAME@@ in 2017 gets to be named 2017_1, the second one's name becomes 2017_2, etc. S/he says that this will also make it easier to keep a tally of how many storms hit @@NAME@@ within a year.

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What do you think?

By the way, I googled your premise, and I saw that this (storms with female names are more destructive) really happened in real life. But I still think it is a bit too weird to be an issue.

[Australian rePublic]

Um, cyclone naming is apparently alphabetical, and apparently aleternates every year between male and female. The fact that the more well known cyclones are female names is a pure coincidence, apparently.
Also, I wouldn't use the word "hurricane" exclusively. Hurricanes, cyclones and thyphoons are the same thing (if any difference at all, it's the direction they spin), but by using all three words, atleast once, it removes the assumption of where your nation is located, as different regions have different names for the exact same thing- cyclone, Australia and Indian Ocean typhoon- Pacific Ocean (I also assume Polynesia) and hurricane, Atlantic Ocean and USA

[Bears Armed]

Alternative title: 'The female of the species'

(shortened from Kipling's "For the female of the species is far deadlier than the male"...)

[Australian rePublic]

So apparently, cyclones occure mostly in the Southern Hemisphere, and hurricanes and typhoons occure mostly in the Northern Hemisphere. Whilst the three things are the EXACT same thing, what this means is that, due to the Coriolis Effect, cyclones spin clockwise (though there might be cyclones in the Northern Hemisphere, I don't know) and that is the ONLY difference between a hurricane and a typhon, both of which spin anti-clockwise, and both of which are the same thing (typhoon seasons are apparently at slightly different times to hurricane seasons) So buy using the word cylone interchangabily with either of the other two words, it removes the assumption that your nation is in either Hemisphere, and by using the word "typhoon" interchangably with "hurrciane" it removes the assumption of when the season runs. Long story short, I think you should use each of the three words atleast once

Also, I'm pretty sure that these are the only three words for the phenomenon, so don't worry too much about overcomplicating it, as three words don't overcomplicate the system (a monsoon is something different)

[Frieden-und Freudenland]

So apparently, cyclones occure mostly in the Southern Hemisphere, and hurricanes and typhoons occure mostly in the Northern Hemisphere. Whilst the three things are the EXACT same thing, what this means is that, due to the Coriolis Effect, cyclones spin clockwise (though there might be cyclones in the Northern Hemisphere, I don't know) and that is the ONLY difference between a hurricane and a typhon, both of which spin anti-clockwise, and both of which are the same thing (typhoon seasons are apparently at slightly different times to hurricane seasons) So buy using the word cylone interchangabily with either of the other two words, it removes the assumption that your nation is in either Hemisphere, and by using the word "typhoon" interchangably with "hurrciane" it removes the assumption of when the season runs. Long story short, I think you should use each of the three words atleast once

Also, I'm pretty sure that these are the only three words for the phenomenon, so don't worry too much about overcomplicating it, as three words don't overcomplicate the system (a monsoon is something different)

Lol, isn't it better to stick with one word?

It could simply be called a "storm."

[Bears Armed]

It could simply be called a "storm."

In RL, I've seen the various types referred to collectively as 'tropical storms'.

[Frieden-und Freudenland]

It could simply be called a "storm."

I've seen the various types referred to collectively as 'tropical storms'.

Yes, but then Aussie will say that we cannot assume that @@NAME@@ has a tropical climate.

[Australian rePublic]

I've seen the various types referred to collectively as 'tropical storms'.

Yes, but then Aussie will say that we cannot assume that @@NAME@@ has a tropical climate.

Hey, I have written an issue which assumes that your nation is polar, (OR has a gaint enough body of fresh water to affect shipping routes) and the tropics covers a much larger area (simple mathematics). The thing is that if it's a weather phenomenon, you have to assume that the kind of climate exists to make it possible (just like Earthquakes and volcanos, which exist in issues, have to assume fault lines). However, the "tropical" part won't work, as non-Hawaii places in the USA experience hurricanes, and the only state which is actually tropical is Hawaii (Florida falls just short)

[Bears Armed]

However, the "tropical" part won't work, as non-Hawaii places in the USA experience hurricanes, and the only state which is actually tropical is Hawaii (Florida falls just short)

We've had one in England, too, and England -- hot though today is -- -certainly isn't in the tropics...
But it isn't where those storms end up, it's where they originate...

[Jutsa]

But it isn't where those storms end up, it's where they originate...

Yep, storms almost always originate in tropical areas. Almost. There are some exceptions, like this year's Tropical Storm Arlene,
where they just get drugged out and don't do what they're supposed to.

[Ransium]

Okay, I've implemented the grammatical fixes, and I've tried to make it a bit more clear why female named storms are deadlier, which I think was throwing some of you off and is critical, and I went with my original less clickbaity tittle.

As for Fuf's comments that the premise is over the top. Maybe this was because I didn't quite have the connective tissue I meant for there to be in 1? Anyway, I have no problem with the issue you outlined, it's just not the issue I want to write.

As for Jutsa's comments about the extremeness of the options. I mean, I guess? Option 1 gives them male names and option 3 gives them female names both of which seems to be really minor things. This is why I didn't want a third neutral named option because all the tweaks would be super minor. Also, why wouldn't you think you would get to comment on my issues? I draft all my issues here, I just don't write much these days.

As for the storm names, I had to assume something. 'Tropical storm' in the states just means a weaker hurricane, 'storms" are generally even more minor weather disturbances that wouldn't normally get named. Switching between the three names just seems messy to me. Besides cyclone in the US is an alternative name for a tornado, which is not what I want to communicate I'm talking about.

[Jutsa]

Ah... whoops. I completely misunderstood the issue at hand...

Yeah, everything makes perfect sense to me now. Sorry about that.

In that case, I think this issue's perfectly fine the way it is.

For an explanation: I thought that hurricanes were named after they existed, for some ridiculous reason; again, it was probably the midnight oil.
So, I thought the issue was that people were unconsciously naming storms after males because they were more dangerous,
and I thought option 1 was encouraging that, option 2 was teaching equality for some reason, and 3 was trying to hunt down those who opposed of the new female names, for whatever reason.
I now understand that the problem's that people don't take hurricanes that are already named after females seriously enough,
and the answer is to either 1) impose threatening male names, 2) make people perceive names as equal to take both as seriously, and 3) let bigots be unprepared and pass on to the storm - correct?
So, yeah, pretty much, because of one tiny misconception that doesn't even make sense, I completely misread you issue.

[Trotterdam]

"People just aren't taking the feminine storms as seriously, and by citizens not taking the proper precautions the storms become more deadly. Look at violent crime statistics, historical records, and simple biological dimorphism. Men are just scarier."

Obviously, the solution is to encourage more women to commit crimes! For equality!

[Australian rePublic]

Wait, people aren't taking cyclones seriously because of what they're called? This doesn't seem very realistic. I have never experienced a cyclone in real life, but I know that they're bad enough to be taken seriously even if the f&&ker's called "tiny negligable breeze" I doubt that people who are prone to them for half of every year would know better than I do about taking cyclones seriously

Also, for the naming debacle, why don't you have one speaker call them "cyclones" the other "typhoons" and the other "hurricanes"

[Ransium]

Wait, people aren't taking cyclones seriously because of what they're called? This doesn't seem very realistic. I have never experienced a cyclone in real life, but I know that they're bad enough to be taken seriously even if the f&&ker's called "tiny negligable breeze" I doubt that people who are prone to them for half of every year would know better than I do about taking cyclones seriously

Also, for the naming debacle, why don't you have one speaker call them "cyclones" the other "typhoons" and the other "hurricanes"

Life is not very realistic sometimes. (Although the study was basically debunked it's still good NS fodder IMO.)

[Trotterdam]

According to my own research, the deadliest Atlantic hurricanes since 1979 (when they first started using male names) were:
1. Mitch (1998, male)
2. Jeanne (2004, female)
3. David (1979, male)
4. Katrina (2005, female)
5. Stan (2005, male)
6. Matthew (2016, male)
7. Gordon (1994, male)

The same but for Pacific hurricanes (these are from the east Pacific, not to be confused with typhoons, which are from the west Pacific), starting from 1978 (they got a slight head start on using male names):
1. Paul (1982, male)
2/3. Aletta (1982, female)
2/3. Pauline (1997, female)
4. Agatha (2010, female)
5. Manuel (2013, male)
6. Tico (1983, male)
7. Ismael (1995, male)
8. Lidia (1981, female)
Though these storms seem to have been overally wimpy compared to the Atlantic ones. Paul is the only one with over 1000 deaths. Pauline's death count is uncertain and may be more or less than Aletta's, but they're both girls so it doesn't matter much.

[Zaluzianskya]

A part of me is disappointed that there's no option to give storms names like "Hurricane Murderkill" or "Cyclone Fataldeath". You know, to make sure the populace really gets the fact that they're super deadly.

[Ransium]

A part of me is disappointed that there's no option to give storms names like "Hurricane Murderkill" or "Cyclone Fataldeath". You know, to make sure the populace really gets the fact that they're super deadly.

Ha! Now I'm disappointed too...

[AHSCA]

I love the idea of the issue, I'm a bit of a weather nut myself and I always felt we need more weather issues on the site. Anyway, in character AHSCA doesn't name its hurricanes so I'd for one like to see another option where they abolish naming all together.

Something like "Finally a grizzled old sea captain chimes in with an "Arr. ye don't give name to something that aint human, call a spade a spade it's still will destroy you if ye don't get out of its way. Let's stop naming them altogether."
Effect: People can't tell the difference between a tropical storm and a refreshing breeze OR people head for the hills at the mere announcement of a rainstorm.

[Trotterdam]

A part of me is disappointed that there's no option to give storms names like "Hurricane Murderkill" or "Cyclone Fataldeath". You know, to make sure the populace really gets the fact that they're super deadly.

That would be disappointing if the storm fizzles out before making landfall and doesn't kill anyone, though.

[Bears Armed]

Something like "Finally a grizzled old sea captain chimes in with an "Arr. ye don't give name to something that aint human,

Don't grizzled old sea captains tend to be fairly definite about the need to name ships?

[AHSCA]

Something like "Finally a grizzled old sea captain chimes in with an "Arr. ye don't give name to something that aint human,

Don't grizzled old sea captains tend to be fairly definite about the need to name ships?

True they name their ships and whether they name storms is another question. It was only an idea, doesn't have to be grizzled sea captain just seemed like should be grizzled old person period.

[Caracasus]

A part of me is disappointed that there's no option to give storms names like "Hurricane Murderkill" or "Cyclone Fataldeath". You know, to make sure the populace really gets the fact that they're super deadly.

Ha! Now I'm disappointed too...

Maybe something linking with the whole "Boaty McBoatface" thing? Getting people to vote on the name of the next hurricane?

"In other news, Hurricane McBastardy Smashypants has hit land"