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Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Wed Jun 03, 2015 6:55 pm

So this is an issue I thought of today that would be very interesting for people to have.

Title: 300 Solutions And Problem Still Unsolved

Validity: nations that have answered at least 300 issues.

After numerous acts of legislation passed by your hands and problems solved that were running rampant before, you realized that this job as leader is not as great as it used to be.

Debate:

[option]You look down at your resignation notice and reread what you wrote. It says, "Ever since my first day in office as the Leader of @@NAME@@, I was coming in with high hopes to improve the nation. I have solved countless problems that we faced, and I think that my time is done. My final act as Leader is for there to be an election to decide who should be my successor. When the winner is announced, I will officially resign from office. Signed, @@LEADER@@."
[effect]everyone in @@NAME@@ is unsure who to vote for to replace @@LEADER@@ as the Leader.

[option]Just as you were about to give your letter of resignation, one of your interns bursts into your office. "@@LEADER@@! Please, I heard that you are resigning. This can't be happening. You single-handedly solved over 300 issues that were tossed in @@NAME@@'s face. I speak for everyone when I say that you need to continue being our leader for another 400 issues at least!"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ has been quoted saying that they would rather die than stop leading.

[option]"You know boss, I have the solution as usual." states your brother with a twinkle in his eye. "I believe that the real reason that you want to resign is the fact that you haven't had a vacation or even had help solving issues ever since you took office. What I suggest is simple. All you need to do is to have a week vacation every month and give some of the work load to your second in command. Sure, the people won't like every choice that they make or the fact you are always seemingly on vacation, but at least you'll have less work."
[effect]the Maxbarry Spa and Resort in Southern Brasilistan is @@LEADER@@'s favorite vacation area.

[option]"You know..." says a shifty looking man dressed exactly as you are. "I don't think this nation could survive losing a leader as great as you. How about I take the reins for a while, while you just relax?"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ has been committed to a mental hospital after a drastic shift in their personality.

As you can see, the issue is about you thinking of resigning from office after solving a huge portion of problems that your nation has faced. It won't lock the leader field if you pick option one, but you could always change it. Plus, what world leader hasn't thought about resigning? I mean they all had to have the thought at least once right? Any comments about the issue?
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Postby Outer Sparta » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:26 pm

So, why 300, then?
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:36 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:So, why 300, then?


I wanted to make it so that nations that have answered a ridiculous number of issues (300 as my reference since it is a banner and everything) and that way the player will actually wonder what else there is to solve. Like I said, every world leader think of resigning after tons of issues they solved. If you solved at least 300 nationstates like issues in RL as a real life world leader, would you think of resigning? I would definitely think about, but probably not resign. 300 IS a ton of issues for a leader to answer. I don't think even Obama has come across 300 NS like instances as president, so my reasoning, and number, stands firm.

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Postby Phydios » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:38 pm

You made a mistake in option 2's effect. Saying "I would rather die than continue leading" means that you want to stop leading. That's obviously not what you meant to say. My suggestion is "@@LEADER@@ has been quoted saying that they would rather die than stop leading."
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:40 pm

Phydios wrote:You made a mistake in option 2's effect. Saying "I would rather die than continue leading" means that you want to stop leading. That's obviously not what you meant to say. My suggestion is "@@LEADER@@ has been quoted saying that they would rather die than stop leading."


Good point. I'll change it now.

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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:51 pm

Not sure this is feasible. One part of issues is that you're perpetually leader.

If you want to change your leader, change it in your settings.
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Postby Neo-Chicago » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:52 pm

Not sure if you're asking for suggestions, but I've got one:

[option]"You know..." says a shifty looking man dressed exactly as you are. "I don't think this nation could survive losing a leader as great as you. How about I take the reins for a while, while you just relax?"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ has been committed to a mental hospital after a drastic shift in their personality.
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Wed Jun 03, 2015 7:57 pm

Neo-Chicago wrote:Not sure if you're asking for suggestions, but I've got one:

[option]"You know..." says a shifty looking man dressed exactly as you are. "I don't think this nation could survive losing a leader as great as you. How about I take the reins for a while, while you just relax?"
[effect]@@LEADER@@ has been committed to a mental hospital after a drastic shift in their personality.


Not bad. I'll make it an option, but I'll add to it tomorrow.

Sanctaria wrote:Not sure this is feasible. One part of issues is that you're perpetually leader.

If you want to change your leader, change it in your settings.


This is an issue about you wanting less work and possibly some relaxation (like the last part of the issue implies) while believing that you have done your part for the nation and want someone else in charge (first part of issue). It's not an actual loss of leadership, it is simply an issue dealing with you doubting your ability to continue while everyone else tries to convince you to continue. Like I said in the beginning post, leaders doubting the can go on is present in the world (they are't going to admit it though) and is in fact an issue many nations deal with. That's why I think it is a feasible issue. I tried to make it simpiler to understand for everyone, but if you still don't think it's feasible, let me know what you think could make it feasible.
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Postby Luna Amore » Wed Jun 03, 2015 8:59 pm

The major hurdles with this draft:
1. It's too meta for lack of a better word. I have no problem with it only being valid for nations who have addressed > x amount of issues, but the issue text shouldn't directly refer to it.
2. Two of your options result in @@LEADER@@ resigning/losing the position. I agree with Sanc, those aren't viable. You, the leader, never lose your position.
3. The dilemma doesn't make much sense. "You've solved so many problems -> man this job is a drag, you should resign." Who gets bummed out that they are making a difference?

Personally, I don't see this one going anywhere. Revising it to avoid the resigning @@LEADER@@ problem is more than likely going to steer it into the same territory as #404. I don't see the need for another issue like that.

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Postby Unsuspecting User » Wed Jun 03, 2015 9:06 pm

Luna Amore wrote:The major hurdles with this draft:
1. It's too meta for lack of a better word. I have no problem with it only being valid for nations who have addressed > x amount of issues, but the issue text shouldn't directly refer to it.
2. Two of your options result in @@LEADER@@ resigning/losing the position. I agree with Sanc, those aren't viable. You, the leader, never lose your position.
3. The dilemma doesn't make much sense. "You've solved so many problems -> man this job is a drag, you should resign." Who gets bummed out that they are making a difference?

Personally, I don't see this one going anywhere. Revising it to avoid the resigning @@LEADER@@ problem is more than likely going to steer it into the same territory as #404. I don't see the need for another issue like that.

There was an issue where @@LEADER@@ was almost killed, so what if it's like @@LEADER@@ attempts to resign, almost, but doesn't? Also, maybe the nation should have low happiness, which could make some sense for the @@LEADER@@ to be depressed with their job.
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Postby Golgothastan » Wed Jun 03, 2015 11:52 pm

Why must all your issues be "special"? Just write some normal bloody issues about everyday political questions like everyone else does.

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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:56 pm

Unsuspecting User wrote:
Luna Amore wrote:The major hurdles with this draft:
1. It's too meta for lack of a better word. I have no problem with it only being valid for nations who have addressed > x amount of issues, but the issue text shouldn't directly refer to it.
2. Two of your options result in @@LEADER@@ resigning/losing the position. I agree with Sanc, those aren't viable. You, the leader, never lose your position.
3. The dilemma doesn't make much sense. "You've solved so many problems -> man this job is a drag, you should resign." Who gets bummed out that they are making a difference?

Personally, I don't see this one going anywhere. Revising it to avoid the resigning @@LEADER@@ problem is more than likely going to steer it into the same territory as #404. I don't see the need for another issue like that.

There was an issue where @@LEADER@@ was almost killed, so what if it's like @@LEADER@@ attempts to resign, almost, but doesn't? Also, maybe the nation should have low happiness, which could make some sense for the @@LEADER@@ to be depressed with their job.


This makes more sense. I'm going to remake the issue. It will have a different title but still be about you wanting to resign. Also, Golg, my issues I draft aren't special. I just try bringing in the less looked things that people might not consider to be not important. In all reality, if a leader was to resign, which no issue even talks about for my knowledge, it would be a national crisis. I just think it's safer to draft something that's happened in the past rather than only deal with current events for issues.

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Postby Sanctaria » Thu Jun 04, 2015 5:58 pm

Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:
Unsuspecting User wrote:There was an issue where @@LEADER@@ was almost killed, so what if it's like @@LEADER@@ attempts to resign, almost, but doesn't? Also, maybe the nation should have low happiness, which could make some sense for the @@LEADER@@ to be depressed with their job.


This makes more sense. I'm going to remake the issue. It will have a different title but still be about you wanting to resign. Also, Golg, my issues I draft aren't special. I just try bringing in the less looked things that people might not consider to be not important. In all reality, if a leader was to resign, which no issue even talks about for my knowledge, it would be a national crisis. I just think it's safer to draft something that's happened in the past rather than only deal with current events for issues.

That "remaking" wouldn't be any better.

You've had three editors tell you to drop the issue. Even if you don't, and continue to work on it, I doubt any of us will accept it. Don't waste your time.
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Postby Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf » Thu Jun 04, 2015 6:13 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:
This makes more sense. I'm going to remake the issue. It will have a different title but still be about you wanting to resign. Also, Golg, my issues I draft aren't special. I just try bringing in the less looked things that people might not consider to be not important. In all reality, if a leader was to resign, which no issue even talks about for my knowledge, it would be a national crisis. I just think it's safer to draft something that's happened in the past rather than only deal with current events for issues.

That "remaking" wouldn't be any better.

You've had three editors tell you to drop the issue. Even if you don't, and continue to work on it, I doubt any of us will accept it. Don't waste your time.


okay. I'll abandon it. I'll think of something more people would find discuss-able. I need to gather my thoughts.

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Postby Jute » Fri Jun 05, 2015 10:41 am

Eaischpnaeieacgkque Bhcieaghpodsttditf wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:That "remaking" wouldn't be any better.

You've had three editors tell you to drop the issue. Even if you don't, and continue to work on it, I doubt any of us will accept it. Don't waste your time.


okay. I'll abandon it. I'll think of something more people would find discuss-able. I need to gather my thoughts.

You can also be creative with everyday political problems. :) Maybe, after all those issues centering around @@LEADER@@, make an issue for nations that specifically have rejected to have chosen one? That would make mine eligible as well :D
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