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[Sent]One Nation Under Whom?

Postby Hyperion » Tue Sep 24, 2013 5:36 pm

Revision 1

Revision 1 Changes
Fixed Faithfulness to Godlessness, fixed the all good factor in 3, removed an un-necessary complication for Validity, added drops in Civil Freedomsl


This is my attempt at an issue, reflecting the recent issues with God in the pledge and national motto. Looking for some creative criticism.

Currently writing in a draft some better option wordings.

Description

Following protests by Greatly Oppressing Dieties, people have begun protesting the government use of God in the national anthem.

Validity

Not for nations that chose to have Atheism or not to speak of God anytime.

Options

[option]@@RANDOMNAME@@, the leader of G.O.D, who happens to be your greatest opponent, shoves his way into your office with a stack of papers. "We are a nation of mixed religions and beliefs. The fact most of our mottos include some form of God is treacherous! I say we not only ban God from anything Political, but also from being said by former politicians as assurance that it cannot influence this proud, mixed/Atheist country! I'm sure it would improve my publicity-I mean @@NAME@@'s glory and pride. Just fill out these sheets and it'll be over with!"
[effect]God has been censored from all political material and politicians have stopped going to church.
[stats]Political Freedom drops by 6, Godlessness rises by 3, Civil Freedoms fall

[option] "This is not nearly good enough!" says @@RANDOMNAME@@, leader of D.O.G, Domestically Oppressing Godlings, while knocking over the papers. "We must not only ban god from political sayings but outright ban God or gods from being mentioned! This will fix the issue with Religious clashes and, so what if riots happen, we can send armed guard at them! It'll only cost afew million to change all posters and currency, and to hire the guards. But if it makes us safer and happier, then you do your job."
[effect] Riots have become common as armed guards control crowds protesting the banning of religion.
[stats] Taxes rise, Godlessness rises greatly, Civil Rights drops, Civil Freedoms drops greatly

[options]"This is a horrible idea, the both of you,"says @@RANDOMNAME@@, your Minister of The Interior, pushing his way through your office and knocking over your priceless photo of Agent Coulson. "@@NAME@@ is a great and free nation, home to many different religions and many people who came for our rights after being denied them by others! Besides, if they don't want to say God, they don't have to! And I just happen to have a document for that. But, we could go a step further and kick anyone who disagrees out of the country. They don't like how we operate? Goodbye. It's win win. I have a pen and can write it in myself."
[effect]God has been placed on every magazine and every Dog renamed God.
[stats] Civil Rights rise, taxes stay the same, Godlessness Drops, Economy slightly drops,
Last edited by Hyperion on Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:36 am, edited 5 times in total.
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Postby Kesshite » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:18 pm

What does G.O.D. stand for? Or D.O.G?

I don't think you need to note that this person supports your 'enemy party.' It also makes it invalid for nations with one-party systems or who have made themselves kings or whatever. I also suspect option 1 would touch on civil freedom as well.

Option 3 seems to be an 'all good' option.
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Postby East Denmark » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:23 pm

Agent Coulson?! That's tragic. Don't knock that photo over.

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Postby Hyperion » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:35 pm

Kesshite wrote:What does G.O.D. stand for? Or D.O.G?

I don't think you need to note that this person supports your 'enemy party.' It also makes it invalid for nations with one-party systems or who have made themselves kings or whatever. I also suspect option 1 would touch on civil freedom as well.

Option 3 seems to be an 'all good' option.


Thanks for the advice. I'll change Option 3 to have some downsides, and I'll remove the opposite party so it reduces the need of extra validity. As for what G.O.D stands for it's said in the Description. D.O.G. I'll add a name for. Thanks for the advice!
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
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Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
Not listed? We don't fund it.
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Postby Hyperion » Tue Sep 24, 2013 7:47 pm

East Denmark wrote:Agent Coulson?! That's tragic. Don't knock that photo over.


And on the night of Agents of Shield Premiere...
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
Administration: 2%
Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
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Postby Panageadom » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:56 am

Whom, goddammit.
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#273: Is our children learning?
#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

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Postby Hyperion » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:56 pm

Nothing?
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
Administration: 2%
Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
Not listed? We don't fund it.
Help get my new Issue "One Nation under Who?" ready for a send off!

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Postby Sanctaria » Thu Sep 26, 2013 1:58 pm

This is a slow moving forum, and issue writing is a marathon not a sprint. Be patient.

Even if you did submit this now, it's likely we wouldn't get around to it for a while. We have upwards of 30 issues we're currently working on (last I checked).
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Postby Hyperion » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:05 pm

Last I checked you guys were at the file for submitted issues in 2009
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
Administration: 2%
Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
Not listed? We don't fund it.
Help get my new Issue "One Nation under Who?" ready for a send off!

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Postby Sanctaria » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:07 pm

Hyperion wrote:Last I checked you guys were at the file for submitted issues in 2009

Somehow I think I am a better authority on our backlog than you.
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Author of:
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GA#590 (Co)
Frisbeeteria wrote:Do people not realize that moderators can tell when someone is wanking?

Luna Amore wrote:Sanc is always watching. Ever vigilant.

Auralia wrote:Your condescending attitude is remarkably annoying.

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Postby Hyperion » Thu Sep 26, 2013 2:39 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Hyperion wrote:Last I checked you guys were at the file for submitted issues in 2009

Somehow I think I am a better authority on our backlog than you.


Well you are the actual editor, with access to logs and actually seeing how many issues are sent.. I'm just the guy going on outdated updates from overtime and guessing how many are submitted to how many are finished. So I figured I'd be off by afew years of issues.
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
Administration: 2%
Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
Not listed? We don't fund it.
Help get my new Issue "One Nation under Who?" ready for a send off!

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Postby Luna Amore » Thu Sep 26, 2013 7:32 pm

Hyperion wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:Somehow I think I am a better authority on our backlog than you.


Well you are the actual editor, with access to logs and actually seeing how many issues are sent.. I'm just the guy going on outdated updates from overtime and guessing how many are submitted to how many are finished. So I figured I'd be off by afew years of issues.

The last updates I see on this forum is that we were up to April 2012. One was posted in April 2012 by me; the other is in the Got Issues FAQ. We do have some issues from 2013 being worked on, so we've made some progress since then. I'd guess we're April 2012 - early 2013 with a few stragglers from '11.
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Postby Hyperion » Fri Sep 27, 2013 2:57 pm

Well then, I'm proud to hold the world's most recent update thread wise. :rofl:
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
Administration: 2%
Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
Not listed? We don't fund it.
Help get my new Issue "One Nation under Who?" ready for a send off!

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Postby Hyperion » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:36 am

I got some friends to review it, they think its fine. Whether or not its instantly denied, lets find out.
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
Administration: 2%
Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
Not listed? We don't fund it.
Help get my new Issue "One Nation under Who?" ready for a send off!

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 9:36 am

Hyperion wrote:Whether or not its instantly denied, lets find out.

You won't. Find out, that is.

Our issue approval engine was built in 2003, and it's not designed to inform you how things come out. It's also anything but instant. Right now there's probably a one-year backup of issues that nobody has viewed, and it won't be touched until we finish with the current batch. So no, you won't find anything out, and yes, your issue submission has entered a great big black hole of suckiness where it will remain until somebody sifts through the thousands of entries. The only way you'll know if it's accepted is when it goes into the game. Rejected submissions are not notified, and no, it's not practical to add a notification engine for those. Sorry.

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Postby Hyperion » Sat Oct 05, 2013 12:08 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Hyperion wrote:Whether or not its instantly denied, lets find out.

You won't. Find out, that is.

Our issue approval engine was built in 2003, and it's not designed to inform you how things come out. It's also anything but instant. Right now there's probably a one-year backup of issues that nobody has viewed, and it won't be touched until we finish with the current batch. So no, you won't find anything out, and yes, your issue submission has entered a great big black hole of suckiness where it will remain until somebody sifts through the thousands of entries. The only way you'll know if it's accepted is when it goes into the game. Rejected submissions are not notified, and no, it's not practical to add a notification engine for those. Sorry.


I knew that. I was just,how you would say...I guess kind of saying sarcasm. But not sarcasm.
Exchange Rate: Hypernote
2.55 H$= 1 N$ = 2 USD
Unemployment: 9%
GPD/Capita: H$ 8,930
Debt: H$ -416,215,102
Details:
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=economics
Total: 2,080,205
Land: 1,337,700
Navy: 205,800
Airforce: 514,500
Budget: 20%
Details:http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion&page=military
Tax: 29%
Population: 1.029 Billion
Animal: Colossal Squid
Industry: Pizza Delivery
Currency: Hyper-Note
Leader: J Humble
http://www.nstracker.net/hyperion
Administration: 2%
Welfare: 12%
Education: 22%
Defence: 20%
Public Transport: 9%
Environment: 22%
Not listed? We don't fund it.
Help get my new Issue "One Nation under Who?" ready for a send off!

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Postby Panageadom » Sat Oct 05, 2013 3:32 pm

I appreciate this is a tad of a threadjack, and deep apologies for that, but do we have anything moving towards an eta for the next batch? Or are we getting a little trickle soon, like last time?
Author of Issues:
#273: Is our children learning?
#310: Too Little Talk?
#315: Creative Flowers Withering Under Legislation
#324 "Tourism Tanking" Tells Tabloids
#334: Blot Out Bauhaus
#340: Defending Patent Pending
#365: A Busload of Worry

None at present

If I offer criticism on your proposed issue, I will often write in red: don't think I'm being aggressive, it's just a convention I use!
If I ask a question on a proposed issue thread, then it's because I feel it's one you need to ask of your issue: I'm being Socratic and/or lazy.


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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Oct 05, 2013 4:04 pm

Panageadom wrote:I appreciate this is a tad of a threadjack, and deep apologies for that, but do we have anything moving towards an eta for the next batch? Or are we getting a little trickle soon, like last time?

Not sure when exactly we'll be going through the next batch, but I'd guess that the next time we put issues into the game there'll be a few at once.
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Dr. Bethany Greer CMD, Sanctarian Ambassador to the World Assembly
Author of:
GA#109 GA#133 GA#176 GA#201 GA#222 GA#297
GA#590 (Co)
Frisbeeteria wrote:Do people not realize that moderators can tell when someone is wanking?

Luna Amore wrote:Sanc is always watching. Ever vigilant.

Auralia wrote:Your condescending attitude is remarkably annoying.


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