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Issue #297 (Intersex Athletes)

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 12:22 pm
by Merfurian
I've been presented with Issue #297 (the one about the transgender athlete). What are the results of each of the various options, because I think Options 1 and 5 are somewhat similar, but only slightly - someone help!

PostPosted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:58 pm
by Frisbeeteria
Frisbeeteria wrote:If <foo> is mentioned repeatedly in the issue description and options, chances are that <foo> will be affected. Whether it goes up, down, or sideways can best be determined by reading and analyzing the text, making a choice, and coming back the next day to see what happened.

This is true for all issues and all options. We really don't need a hundred threads like this.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 5:49 am
by Wiewawoe
I have a specific question about this issue: the bald tattooed guy in option 4 talks about banishing people "unlike me and my friends" from Wiewawoe. Does he mean only people who are physically intersex, or any genderqueer people, or also gays/bis/lesbians/pansexuals, OR does he mean that everyone should be bald and tattooed?

Wiewawoe is a country that is extremely old-fashioned. It has a huge prejudice against LGBTQ+, but it has the same attitude towards tattoos. If the tattooed guy is talking about banishing only intersex and maybe genderqueer people, Wiewawoe would agree. If it's about LGBT in general, meaning that people with a "non-traditional" sexuality are also included, Wiewawoe would probably not want to ban them: the country believes gays can still be "saved". If the guy means anyone with a different lifestyle than his own and his own lifestyle includes tattoos, then Wiewawoe would be horrified by option 4.

So what exactly does the tattooed guy mean? I really can't tell from what he says.

(Disclaimer: Admin does not by any means agree with Wiewawoe's "anything that's different is bad" attitude.)

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:29 pm
by Trotterdam
The effect line for that option is "hairdressers are among those who have disappeared overnight", which seems to be playing on the stereotype of hairdressers being homosexual men, therefore implying that yes, the option wants to opress all of LGBT, not just the T.

It seems weird to me, since that issue starts out being rather specifically about transsexuals (and actual physical hermaphrodites rather than people who just identify as different from their birth gender, at that), and it's not until option 3 that any link to homosexuality is even brought up, and even then only incidentally as "allies" rather than as anything the actual suggestion in that option is helping.

I actually agree with you that the game should have a way to tolerate LGB while drawing the line at T, or to support T while banning LGB (the latter is the current state of affairs in Iran). However, it appears that this issue isn't it.

PostPosted: Wed Feb 10, 2016 12:38 pm
by Fonidia and Osteyon
Wiewawoe wrote:I have a specific question about this issue: the bald tattooed guy in option 4 talks about banishing people "unlike me and my friends" from Wiewawoe. Does he mean only people who are physically intersex, or any genderqueer people, or also gays/bis/lesbians/pansexuals, OR does he mean that everyone should be bald and tattooed?

Wiewawoe is a country that is extremely old-fashioned. It has a huge prejudice against LGBTQ+, but it has the same attitude towards tattoos. If the tattooed guy is talking about banishing only intersex and maybe genderqueer people, Wiewawoe would agree. If it's about LGBT in general, meaning that people with a "non-traditional" sexuality are also included, Wiewawoe would probably not want to ban them: the country believes gays can still be "saved". If the guy means anyone with a different lifestyle than his own and his own lifestyle includes tattoos, then Wiewawoe would be horrified by option 4.

So what exactly does the tattooed guy mean? I really can't tell from what he says.

(Disclaimer: Admin does not by any means agree with Wiewawoe's "anything that's different is bad" attitude.)


I'm no expert, but I can tell you that if you just really don't want to break your country's character, you should simply dismiss the issue. There are no bad consequences. It'll simply be as if you hadn't received it. Of course, playing with them is fun, but if you think that'd harm your roleplay, you should just skip it.