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You have double posted this.

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:You have double posted this.

I have deleted the first one.

Good Evening,
Today the mods discovered that Yodle had used 4 wa nations of his own to further the refound of Greece. Today while everyone was criticizing the organization, we were discussing the steps necessary for us to take. The leaders met to discuss the proper actions that are needed to be taken. They decided that Yodle was to be removed from the office as TEF Commander effective immediately. The Greatest Bestest Nation has been named as the permanent replacement. With that Yodle will be banned from public office. TEF does not condone cheating nor will we tolerate it. The org is committed to its member regions and its members. We will continue to work on current projects and serve our community proudly. Thank you!

So we effectively have 2 GP threads now. Woops.

Crystalsummer wrote:Good Evening,
Today the mods discovered that Yodle had used 4 wa nations of his own to further the refound of Greece. Today while everyone was criticizing the organization, we were discussing the steps necessary for us to take. The leaders met to discuss the proper actions that are needed to be taken. They decided that Yodle was to be removed from the office as TEF Commander effective immediately. The Greatest Bestest Nation has been named as the permanent replacement. With that Yodle will be banned from public office. TEF does not condone cheating nor will we tolerate it. The org is committed to its member regions and its members. We will continue to work on current projects and serve our community proudly. Thank you!

It is unfortunate, however, that Yodle will still maintain an important role as an adviser to the organization.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:So we effectively have 2 GP threads now. Woops.

Crystalsummer wrote:Good Evening,
Today the mods discovered that Yodle had used 4 wa nations of his own to further the refound of Greece. Today while everyone was criticizing the organization, we were discussing the steps necessary for us to take. The leaders met to discuss the proper actions that are needed to be taken. They decided that Yodle was to be removed from the office as TEF Commander effective immediately. The Greatest Bestest Nation has been named as the permanent replacement. With that Yodle will be banned from public office. TEF does not condone cheating nor will we tolerate it. The org is committed to its member regions and its members. We will continue to work on current projects and serve our community proudly. Thank you!

It is unfortunate, however, that Yodle will still maintain an important role as an adviser to the organization.

So, what I've gathered from this.

You have decided that it's bad for Yodle to be in a position of actual authority, yet instead of being reasonable and banning him completely from your group, you're instead merely demoting him to an "adviser"

Because that's totally genius, be advised by someone who committed blatant cheating.

TEF Ares wrote:1. Refoundation of Greece.

Wow, I can't believe you're actually listing that as an "Achievement."

Kanglia wrote:

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:So we effectively have 2 GP threads now. Woops.



It is unfortunate, however, that Yodle will still maintain an important role as an adviser to the organization.

So, what I've gathered from this.

You have decided that it's bad for Yodle to be in a position of actual authority, yet instead of being reasonable and banning him completely from your group, you're instead merely demoting him to an "adviser"

Because that's totally genius, be advised by someone who committed blatant cheating.

I said in the other thread that I oppose it. However, it was the decision (a democratic one, too.)

Drasnia wrote:

TEF Ares wrote:1. Refoundation of Greece.

Wow, I can't believe you're actually listing that as an "Achievement."

Yeah, it isn't really an achievement.

Drasnia wrote:

TEF Ares wrote:1. Refoundation of Greece.

Wow, I can't believe you're actually listing that as an "Achievement."

It was listed before the scandal.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:

Kanglia wrote:
So, what I've gathered from this.

You have decided that it's bad for Yodle to be in a position of actual authority, yet instead of being reasonable and banning him completely from your group, you're instead merely demoting him to an "adviser"

Because that's totally genius, be advised by someone who committed blatant cheating.

I said in the other thread that I oppose it. However, it was the decision (a democratic one, too.)

Drasnia wrote:Wow, I can't believe you're actually listing that as an "Achievement."

Yeah, it isn't really an achievement.

Then perhaps you should be questioning what kind of people you have in your democratic group, if the majority is so willing to keep a player with a pretty big bad mark on their history

Kanglia wrote:

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:
I said in the other thread that I oppose it. However, it was the decision (a democratic one, too.)



Yeah, it isn't really an achievement.

Then perhaps you should be questioning what kind of people you have in your democratic group, if the majority is so willing to keep a player with a pretty big bad mark on their history

Don't worry about it.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:

Kanglia wrote:
Then perhaps you should be questioning what kind of people you have in your democratic group, if the majority is so willing to keep a player with a pretty big bad mark on their history

Don't worry about it.

Spoken like a true leader..

I hope you all enjoy having a ruined reputation before you really do anything of note.

Kanglia wrote:

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:
Don't worry about it.

Spoken like a true leader..

I hope you all enjoy having a ruined reputation before you really do anything of note.

You asked for me to think about it. Don't worry about that.

If your complaining about the org doing something, then I'm not sure why I'm the one your complaining about.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:

Kanglia wrote:
Spoken like a true leader..

I hope you all enjoy having a ruined reputation before you really do anything of note.

You asked for me to think about it. Don't worry about that.

If your complaining about the org doing something, then I'm not sure why I'm the one your complaining about.

That "you" was about all of your organization, your opinion isn't really what I was seeking.

Kanglia wrote:

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:
You asked for me to think about it. Don't worry about that.

If your complaining about the org doing something, then I'm not sure why I'm the one your complaining about.

That "you" was about all of your organization, your opinion isn't really what I was seeking.

Well, literally everybody else supports the decision made, so that isn't really helpful.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:

Kanglia wrote:
That "you" was about all of your organization, your opinion isn't really what I was seeking.

Well, literally everybody else supports the decision made, so that isn't really helpful.

So, everyone, for some reason, agrees to continue to allow a player not only accused but been confirmed of blatant & fraudulent multying in order to refound a region because (I assume) they were frustrated they couldn't get it done in a reasonable amount of time, to remain someone who seemingly is important to an organization that is fairly new. It makes no sense to me for a group to tarnish their reputation by associating themselves with one who has cheated.

Kanglia wrote:

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:
Don't worry about it.

Spoken like a true leader..

I hope you all enjoy having a ruined reputation before you really do anything of note.

The Security Council will be meeting to discuss the final resolution to the issue. TEF has to discuss and weigh out the choices. Is that fair??

Crystalsummer wrote:

Kanglia wrote:
Spoken like a true leader..

I hope you all enjoy having a ruined reputation before you really do anything of note.

The Security Council will be meeting to discuss the final resolution to the issue. TEF has to discuss and weigh out the choices. Is that fair??

Not really, since we already decided, and I doubt the result is going to change.

Ohh boy. Let's see where this fruitful discussion goes. >_>

my TL;DR


TEF cares enough to remove him from a position of authority

Not enough to ban someone from their org for pretty horrific cheating'

What else is new

The Noble Thatcherites wrote:Ohh boy. Let's where this fruitful discussion goes. >_>

??? Did you mean Ohh boy. Let’s see where this fruitful discussion goes? Like dude I’m tired so I could have read that wrong. I just got out of the field today.

Ζήτω η Ελλάς.

Ikania wrote:Ζήτω η Ελλάς.

Almost...

In other news, too lazy to write some whole big, formal thing, but Yodel has been banned from the organization after further discussion.

Listed cheating as an achievement. Nice!

Marilyn Manson Freaks wrote:Listed cheating as an achievement. Nice!

Crystalsummer wrote:

Drasnia wrote:Wow, I can't believe you're actually listing that as an "Achievement."

It was listed before the scandal.

Regardless, TEF was unaware of the cheating, and I think we have finally taken the action necessary to condemn it.