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Roavin
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Postby Roavin » Tue Nov 22, 2016 7:26 am

You still held the region, including endorsements on the delegate. Sounds like a lib to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:24 am

Liberation =/= Detag. Pack that into your brain, already. :P

This reminds me of that one time that the founder came back and defenders/natives claimed it was a liberation.
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Postby Raionitu » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:48 am

Roavin wrote:You still held the region, including endorsements on the delegate. Sounds like a lib to me. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

It was a tag, people just left before resigning from the WA. It was the last hit in our run.
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Postby Altmoras » Tue Nov 22, 2016 1:57 pm

One must wonder why a region that supposedly mattered so little is triggering raiders so hard. ;)

It was a tag, people just left before resigning from the WA. It was the last hit in our run.


Improper training on the part of TBH is not my problem, I'm just the one who takes advantage of it.
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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:40 pm

Altmoras wrote:One must wonder why a region that supposedly mattered so little is triggering raiders so hard. ;)

Falsifying your raid reports... anther classy move by the Wardens!

Improper training on the part of TBH is not my problem, I'm just the one who takes advantage of it.

Improper training is not the equivalent to a Private First Class accidentally keeping his puppet in the WA.

Improper training is convincing new defenders that a detag is the same thing as a liberation. :rofl:
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Altmoras
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Postby Altmoras » Tue Nov 22, 2016 2:49 pm

We took Liberty Alliance from an in-region hostile, raider delegate, that's a liberation by the strictest definition. No laughable attempts by raiders to dictate what defending is will change that.

Perhaps if you thought less about us, and more about how to teach your own troops to go home after a "tag raid" you wouldn't have this problem.
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Postby Blight-Bane » Tue Nov 22, 2016 3:16 pm

Sygian II wrote:Improper training is not the equivalent to a Private First Class accidentally keeping his puppet in the WA.

Are you sure? On my very first chase lead, I was instructed to leave after dispatching the taggers. So it's either improper training, or they were trying to hang on to the region. You call it a detag, we call it a lib. The result is the same. Another region cleared of raiders. :p

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Left-wing Utopia

Postby WARDEN DRAKE » Tue Nov 22, 2016 9:27 pm

As far as I see it, if a raider delegate is ousted from a region, it's a liberation. In this case, an uncontested liberation (the way a detag would be uncontested), but a lib nonetheless. The raiders may not have intended to hold the region, but they still had access to regional controls and could have used them if desired. It's not a tag if you still have the keys to the castle.
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Postby Funkadelia » Tue Nov 22, 2016 11:00 pm

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I'm glad you finally recognize the level of your own temperament. We're the monitors, and you are...? :)
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Guy » Wed Nov 23, 2016 6:34 am

Warden Drake wrote:As far as I see it, if a raider delegate is ousted from a region, it's a liberation. In this case, an uncontested liberation (the way a detag would be uncontested), but a lib nonetheless. The raiders may not have intended to hold the region, but they still had access to regional controls and could have used them if desired. It's not a tag if you still have the keys to the castle.

Logic doesn't seem to pay many dividends in TBH these days.

It's a shame, they used to be better than that.
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Sygian II
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Postby Sygian II » Wed Nov 23, 2016 7:01 am

If you want to call it a liberation, then I suppose you can call it a liberation. Too bad that you are resorting to the generation of false reports in order to create the illusion that the Grey Wardens are still effective against the Darkspawn. ;)

Cheers.
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Tim-Opolis
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:16 am

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Tim looks upon the state of R/D in his absense


What's up folks, Warden reports are back and so is yours truly. The Invaders? They might be able to have a cult and have a circlejerk about it to make up for their lack of any sort of respectability with the greater gameplay sphere. HYDRA? They might be able to tag a lot and win sometimes. The Black Hawks? Okay they're just a quality outfit, honestly. Well guess what, the Wardens have these dank reports and you know you've all missed them. We'll have some memes, some screams, and some shattered invader dreams, as we roll through gameplay with these top notch updates. Believe me, they're going to be huge. We're going to make reports great again. You know it's true, I make the best reports. I've got the best rhetoric. Believe me, it's going to be great. Believe me. Anyways, let's stop beating around the bush. Here's what happened tonight:

The Wardens and their South Pacifican friends began their routine patrol looking for any sort of enemy forces, and ended up sighting some strange blight-octopi meandering around the wilds. Though it was a tight chase at times, with the octopi being incredibly resourceful, their lack of experience shone through as Commander Tim succeeded in securing two defensive leads and accumulating multiple kills in the process. In addition to this, the darkspawn missed their update a few times, and did end up sneaking through the ranks. All in all, a big thanks for their participation, as it was a good fight all around. In addition to this, another siege operation was enacted against Kingdom of Ireland, with the variance of battle making the infiltration just a bit tight, yet still manageable for most of the troops. Though not the most eventful of updates, the Wardens made the most of it, listening to many a good jam, and complaining about things going on in Germany.

Regions Defended
Libertas Foederatio
Brasilis

Regions Besieged
Kingdom of Ireland

Wardens Involved
First Warden Roavin
Commander Tim-Opolis
Constable Birdkeeper
Warden Warden Drake
Warden Blightbane

Allies Involved In Our Victory
United States of Vietnam




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Father Knows Best State

Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:22 am

I can't say three nations is an effective attrition run, but I'll be damned if that wasn't one hell of a trigger.

11/29/2016, 11:55:49 PM: The Headless Horseman was ranked in the Top 10% of the world for Most World Assembly Endorsements.
11/29/2016, 11:55:49 PM: Pied Piper relocated from Spear Danes to Kingdom of Ireland.
11/29/2016, 11:55:49 PM: Iron II Hydroxide relocated from Spear Danes to Kingdom of Ireland.
11/29/2016, 11:55:49 PM: Cupcake Belle relocated from Spear Danes to Kingdom of Ireland.

..and your other two were a second later, mid update. Move that shit up just a half second and you'd have had literally the best one I've ever seen. Tight movement of the pack too. Not shabby at all.
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Drake made defending great again as he
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Postby Drake made defending great again as he » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:33 am

We've had better than that. One second hits are fairly routine.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:36 am

I disagree that that's better in terms of what I was saying - First man in there is two seconds before update - fast BC coulda got him before update, easily. First man tonight was literally in the same second as update. No one can do shit about that.

Sure, that's probably better for an actual op, as you'd have one max ejected, and less/no folks late, but the point was that no one moved earlier than the same second as update on this one, yet the majority was still in on time.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Drake made defending great again as he
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Postby Drake made defending great again as he » Wed Nov 30, 2016 12:38 am

Yeah, I see your point. We kind of threw that siege together like a minute in a half beforehand while chasing. I wasn't even able to jump since this nation was on the ban list and nobody had time to check.

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Sygian II
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Ex-Nation

Postby Sygian II » Wed Nov 30, 2016 6:20 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:
(Image)
Tim looks upon the state of R/D in his absense

Picture is a 10/10, I love that and the caption.

The Black Hawks? Okay they're just a quality outfit, honestly.

Also 10/10.
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Revall
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Postby Revall » Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:09 am

Sweet report Tim.
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Wed Nov 30, 2016 11:17 am

A huge thanks to all our fans, I'll strive to keep the reports at least somewhat entertaining! As for siege speeds, Souls, we'll just do our best to keep working towards an entire liberation being pulled off on a (probably shortened by goddamn variance) one second trigger. ;)
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Birdkeeper » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:02 pm

I am so glad Tim can write reports. Gods know I can't.

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Altmoras
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Postby Altmoras » Thu Dec 01, 2016 2:58 pm

Birdkeeper wrote:I am so glad Tim can write reports. Gods know I can't.


That's why you're not a commander :P We require a certain amount of braggadociousness.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Brunhizzle » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:00 pm

Altmoras wrote:
Birdkeeper wrote:I am so glad Tim can write reports. Gods know I can't.


That's why you're not a commander :P We require a certain amount of braggadociousness.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?
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Altmoras
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Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Altmoras » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:05 pm

Brunhizzle wrote:
Altmoras wrote:
That's why you're not a commander :P We require a certain amount of braggadociousness.

Is that what the kids are calling it these days?


Well it's not even a real word so yeah.
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Altmoras
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Postby Altmoras » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:28 am

AND THIS IS THE REMIX


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This past major update was a sweet sonata for the Wardens and our dear friends. We visited familiar vistas, said hello to some old friends, and had a generally good time. First off we worked with CAIN to briefly stop by an imitator region and kick out the nations occupying it (Although we were interrupted by the return of the founder). After that we joined our friends in 21st Century Rome to liberate Holy Rome from the hands of some amateur raiders for the 2nd time in 24 hours. A bit of a lull in update occurred after that, with our primary activity being loading our bot with as much shitty trap/rap as I could find. Once we were sufficiently turnt, the Wardens payed a brief visit to the bank of Kingdom of Ireland to make a withdrawal from their influence vaults.

Once all the traditional defending was stocked away, the ever eager Wardens moved on to the main entertainment of the night; two desolate, primitive, raider regions, that have yet to discover the ancient invention of the Auto Login scripts the rest of the world takes for granted, fell to the might of the Wardens and our friends in The South Pacific Special Forces and Corneria.

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Perhaps one day, the modern conveniences of Autologin tools, or even just calendars to remind people to log into their founders will make their way into these remote regions, but today was clearly not that day.

Regions Liberated
The Coalition Against Ideology Nazism
Holy Rome

Regions Beseiged
Kingdom of Ireland

Regions Raided
The Kingdom of Kvatch
The Imperial Army

Wardens Involved
First Warden Roavin
High Constable Altmoras
Warden Blight-Bane
Warden Warden Drake

Allies Who Share In Our Victory
United States of Vietnam
20XX WAVESHINE
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Ex-Nation

Postby Cormactopia II » Fri Dec 02, 2016 12:41 am

Interesting, but not terribly surprising, to see the South Pacific now cooperating with the Grey Wardens not only on defensive operations but on potentially destructive invasions to antagonize raiders. Why not just abolish the SPSF and set up a Grey Wardens outpost in TSP? Eh, Roavin?
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