The Order of the Grey Wardens

[Olevsky]

Its alright. We got to have a good amount of fun at his expense. And at the expense of those who tried to liberate the invader region.

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

Given that we were still out there defending every single update, you trapped no one and accomplished little but allowing your peers to waste their effort and time. Congratulations.

[Altmoras]

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

Given that we were still out there defending every single update, you trapped no one and accomplished little but allowing your peers to waste their effort and time. Congratulations.

Truly a masterstroke.

[Vaculatestar64]

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

Given that we were still out there defending every single update, you trapped no one and accomplished little but allowing your peers to waste their effort and time. Congratulations.

TBH has blacklisted me, in that they will not work with me, nor will they associate with KGB because of me. Trying to find where I need to care that they wasted their time.

[Tim-Opolis]

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

''the trap''

I mean, we got PR out of it, a great time to be had by all, some new friends, and managed to waste an entire weekend of potential raids away on attrition runs on us.

Trying to find where I need to care that they wasted their time.

Raider unity at its best.

[Vaculatestar64]

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

''the trap''

I mean, we got PR out of it, a great time to be had by all, some new friends, and managed to waste an entire weekend of potential raids away on attrition runs on us.

Trying to find where I need to care that they wasted their time.

Raider unity at its best.

I'm not trying to claim raider unity. I tried all that and TBH is still telling me to screw off. So here we are. Me not caring.

[Tim-Opolis]

I'm not trying to claim raider unity. I tried all that and TBH is still telling me to screw off. So here we are. Me not caring.

Perhaps you should look into why you were told to "screw off", just a thought.

[General Knot]

Trying to find where I need to care that they wasted their time.

Raider unity at its best.

There is no "Raider Unity".

[Vaculatestar64]

I'm not trying to claim raider unity. I tried all that and TBH is still telling me to screw off. So here we are. Me not caring.

Perhaps you should look into why you were told to "screw off", just a thought.

What you just said, doe snot take away from the point I am making. They blacklist me, so they could waste their time doing whatever and I wouldn't care.

[Vivec the God-King]

Its alright. We got to have a good amount of fun at his expense. And at the expense of those who tried to liberate the invader region.

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

I hope you didn't like Kvatch that much.

[Vaculatestar64]

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

I hope you didn't like Kvatch that much.

If I remember correctly, that one wasn't mine at all. I could be wrong but I don't remember ever owning that one.

[Torches]

Oh Really?

edit: Oh, you edited out the part where you straight up denied it and said you "might not". Nice.

[Shizensky]

I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

If only there was a way to get non-updating people to be able to move into a region to help increase the number of endorsements. Maybe like piling more and more of a thing on top of something to make it bigger. I feel like there should be a term for this tactic. Stacking? Accumulating? Crowding? Hm, oh well. I'm sure someone will come up with something.

[Tim-Opolis]

The Grey Wardens and friends are thrilled to announce the liberation of Spanish Kingdom from Osiris & Pals. While ex-Warden Brihimia was trying to demonstrate that he was a capable point by not logging on to ban any of us, Comrade Roavin of the South Pacific Special Forces showed some supporting forces from Spanish Kingdom the way to another operation. In the Running of the Wolves, supporters within Spanish Kingdom were led out to some rainy polish outpost with an active founder, while Wardens, SPSF, LLA, and RIASF marched in to evict the mighty Sekhmet Legion from the region. The Maverick that is Roavin even switched back in time to endorse the defender lead in Spanish Kingdom, while missing the update for the New Warsaw Pact. Warden Dolen's armor was stained with darkspawn blood by the end of the night, so many did he cut down in the clearing out of the kingdom.

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Wardens Involved
High Constable Tim-Opolis
Warden-Chamberlain Olevsky
Warden-Commander Altmoras
Warden Dolen Tum En Coia
Warden Birdkeeper

Allies Involved In Our Victory
Funkadelia
Red Dusk
United States of Vietnam
Dyr Nasad
Dixadoing

Absolute Maverick
Roavin

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In War, Victory.
In Peace, Vigilance.
In Death, Sacrifice.

[Cormactopia II]

Comrade Roavin of the South Pacific Special Forces showed some supporting forces from Spanish Kingdom the way to another operation. In the Running of the Wolves, supporters within Spanish Kingdom were led out to some rainy polish outpost with an active founder, while Wardens, SPSF, LLA, and RIASF marched in to evict the mighty Sekhmet Legion from the region. The Maverick that is Roavin even switched back in time to endorse the defender lead in Spanish Kingdom, while missing the update for the New Warsaw Pact.

You're implying here that the South Pacific Special Forces pretended to work with Lone Wolves United on a raid, in good faith, when in actuality it was just Roavin working to undermine a raid Lone Wolves United had been supporting by diverting them elsewhere? And that he missed update in The New Warsaw Pact so that he could run off to work with the Wardens instead.

I hope this isn't an accurate description of what happened tonight, and that the South Pacific Special Forces are actually more professional than this. Spanish Kingdom itself wasn't a big deal, but SPSF's soldiers conspiring with defenders to undermine raiders they're supposed to be working with is pretty low and completely unprofessional, even for the South Pacific.

[Roavin]

Well, ok, before rumors start spreading, let me elaborate.

The reason I missed the raid is because in a drunken stupor, I set the trigger extremely tight, even though my internet is currently broken and I'm tethering mobile data (with the expected additional latency). Update itself last major was fast too, so that didn't help, and if you look at the happenings (copied below), you'll see that four people jumped, three of which within the same second that the region started to update such that the second two jumpers (myself included - I wasn't even last!) had already missed. Furthermore, even if I hadn't missed, it wouldn't have mattered, because I already had another nation in Spanish Kingdom as well, and I quickly switched my WA to that one after the raid. Finally, the raid still happened and the region was taken either way (though the founder has reverted those changes now).

In summary, I missed but not on purpose.

9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Spanish Crodo became WA Delegate of The New Warsaw Pact.
9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Spanish Crodo's influence in The New Warsaw Pact rose from "Zero" to "Shoeshiner".
9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Crosstown Traffic's influence in The New Warsaw Pact rose from "Zero" to "Sprat".
9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Riviotto Sultra relocated from Spanish Kingdom to The New Warsaw Pact.
9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Teislaikchi Ken's influence in The New Warsaw Pact rose from "Contender" to "Instigator".
9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Democratic Peoples Republic of Jupiter's influence in The New Warsaw Pact rose from "Instigator" to "Dealmaker".
9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Cupcake Elsa relocated from Spanish Kingdom to The New Warsaw Pact.
9/20/2016, 6:41:15 AM: Spanish Crodo relocated from Spanish Kingdom to The New Warsaw Pact.
9/20/2016, 6:41:14 AM: Crosstown Traffic relocated from Spanish Kingdom to The New Warsaw Pact.

Also, this wasn't an orchestrated SPSF move, but rather an idea I got in the above-mentioned drunken stupor. SPSF and LLA had agreed to liberate Spanish Kingdom together, TGW taking the lead for organizational/convenience reasons. While this was being hashed out (about midway between minor and major), I was hanging out in the LWU Discord and jokingly suggested a raid. I was taken up on that suggestion, and the idea formed in my head. I didn't tell anyone what I was doing, rather I just asked the liberators beforehand who the slated liberation lead was going to be (followed by some confused messages asking me why I was endorsing the raiders). Both SPSF and non-SPSF involved were just as surprised as anybody else when it happened but, hey, it worked. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[Drasnia]

Well, ok, before rumors start spreading, let me elaborate.

The reason I missed the raid is because in a drunken stupor, I set the trigger extremely tight

Remember kiddos, don't drink and defend!

[Cormactopia II]

<snip>

Does it bother you, or the South Pacific as a whole, that the Grey Wardens completely misrepresented this situation to make it appear that you had, acting on behalf of the SPSF, intentionally played Scardino and Lone Wolves United for the purpose of assisting the Wardens, et al. in liberating Spanish Kingdom? That seems like a pretty serious misrepresentation, in which the Wardens called into serious question the credibility of the SPSF, your own personal credibility, and the viability of including the SPSF in future raiding operations, presumably for the Wardens' own propaganda gain.

[Evil Wolf]

<snip>

Does it bother you, or the South Pacific as a whole, that the Grey Wardens completely misrepresented this situation to make it appear that you had, acting on behalf of the SPSF, intentionally played Scardino and Lone Wolves United for the purpose of assisting the Wardens, et al. in liberating Spanish Kingdom? That seems like a pretty serious misrepresentation, in which the Wardens called into serious question the credibility of the SPSF, your own personal credibility, and the viability of including the SPSF in future raiding operations, presumably for the Wardens' own propaganda gain.

For the record, neither I nor the vast majority of LWU believed the Warden's side of the story. An amusing fabrication, to be sure, but an obvious attempt to play sides against each other and spread distrust.

Not the first time TGW have claimed "official" SPSF involvement in one of their operations based upon the participation of one SPSF member who has multiple associations and membership across multiple organizations. Falls in line with their fantasy that TSP is defender, but nothing is further from the truth.

[Roavin]

"Complete misrepresentation"? Nah. There's nothing wrong in the Wardens report. The implication could be drawn that I missed on purpose, but that's why I wrote my post earlier to clarify that.

EW, I'm not in multiple organizations - In fact, SPSF has a one-org policy, so nobody in SPSF is. And the fantasy that TSP is Defender is actually spun up by raider-aligned individuals (Cormac, for example) rather than TGW or SPSF.

[Sandaoguo]

I could only wish TSP was defender Maybe one day I'll convince Belschaft

TGW is turning out to be quite the anti-invader force! It's interesting to see, after so many years of moral defenderism preventing this type of gameplay from flourishing. Wish you guys the best of luck in the future

[Kringalia]

And the fantasy that TSP is Defender

It's never too late to make it a reality.

[Consular]

Raider unity at its best.

There is no "Raider Unity".

I love quotes like this one. I practically have an entire anthology at this point.

[Olevsky]

Remember kiddos, don't drink and defend!

I resent such a notion.

[Benevolent Thomas]

Remember kiddos, don't drink and defend!

I resent such a notion.

If defending required sobriety, we would have quit years ago.

[Imkitopia]

For the record, as Roavin has already covered, this was not something that the SPSF planned for or was even aware of. We are an independent military that will both raid and defend and we will be staying that way. We have no more ties to TGW than any other organisation but I will be taking steps to ensure it does not happen again.

Roavin raided with LWU and we helped liberate Spanish Kingdom from Osiris. As these are two separate organisations, I did not see any conflict on our part. LWU were not credited in SK's WFE. It is not my duty to deal with the schedule conflicts of another organisation and might be something to keep in mind before calling us unprofessional.

As for Roavin;

No more drunk raiding for you young man.

And the fantasy that TSP is Defender

It's never too late to make it a reality.

Look who crawled out of the woodwork to make an asinine comment! Are you going to stop hiding in IRC and make it happen? Didn't think so.