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Postby Funkadelia » Thu Aug 25, 2016 2:24 am

Louisistan wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:It took me forever to write my bit about the Darkspawn Kill Points and nobody's commented on it. I wish I could write cool stories like Todd :(

What did the Funkmaster do to incur your wrath like that? Last place! :o

I accidentally said "go..." ;_;
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Postby Todd McCloud » Sat Aug 27, 2016 8:16 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:It took me forever to write my bit about the Darkspawn Kill Points and nobody's commented on it. I wish I could write cool stories like Todd :(

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Postby Olevsky » Sat Aug 27, 2016 7:59 pm

I promise to bring home the gold next time around.

No more stinky sausageman interference. :p

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Postby Roavin » Sun Aug 28, 2016 1:55 am

Olevsky wrote:I promise to bring home the gold next time around.

No more stinky sausageman interference. :p


Just because stinky sausageman was on vacation ;)
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Postby Olevsky » Wed Sep 07, 2016 6:02 pm

Roavin wrote:
Olevsky wrote:I promise to bring home the gold next time around.

No more stinky sausageman interference. :p


Just because stinky sausageman was on vacation ;)


I meant, as in, like, the future. There will be no more interference from you!

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sun Sep 11, 2016 11:25 pm

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The Grey Wardens turn up the speed tonight


The Wardens and friends were sitting on an empty stretch of road, staring at the sunset, wondering where all the action was. Then, out of nowhere, some Hydra Fastboys flew past them, and so the chase began. Turning it up a gear tonight, The Grey Wardens went into quick pursuit in a demonstration of their efficiency on the battlefield. Even when The Invaders and Corneria came out to play, The Wardens were flying along, covering as much as they could throughout the duration of the update. In the end, it was a rather successful night, with seven defenses put up against the Darkspawn! No hawks tonight of either variety, sadly, but we're sure we'll see some again soon. Hail The Grey Wardens, Hail Our Staunch Allies!

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Creamoland
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Pre War Antarctica
Brotherhood Alliance
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Tennel

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First Warden Benevolent Thomas
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Warden Dolen Tum En Coia
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Postby Altmoras » Mon Sep 12, 2016 1:26 am

9/11/2016, 9:57:21 PM: Funk Zappa became WA Delegate of Brotherhood Alliance.
9/11/2016, 9:57:21 PM: House Selmy relocated from Spear Danes to Brotherhood Alliance.
9/11/2016, 9:57:20 PM: Funk Zappa relocated from Spear Danes to Brotherhood Alliance.
9/11/2016, 9:57:17 PM: Altmoras IV relocated from Spear Danes to Brotherhood Alliance.
9/11/2016, 9:57:15 PM: Black Watch 90 relocated from Jumpy to Brotherhood Alliance.
9/11/2016, 9:57:15 PM: HyWa 26 relocated from Jumpy to Brotherhood Alliance.
9/11/2016, 9:57:15 PM: We Are Not The FSB relocated from Jumpy to Brotherhood Alliance.

9/11/2016, 10:04:25 PM: Dolen taure became WA Delegate of Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:23 PM: Intelligent Thomas relocated from Spear Danes to Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:23 PM: Dolen taure relocated from Spear Danes to Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:22 PM: Funk Sinatra relocated from Spear Danes to Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:22 PM: Altmoras V relocated from Spear Danes to Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:21 PM: Cupcake Cinderella relocated from Greater Olympus to Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:20 PM: HyWa 30 relocated from Jumpy to Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:20 PM: Doctor Hooves relocated from Jumpy to Velvina.
9/11/2016, 10:04:20 PM: Black watch 94 relocated from Jumpy to Velvina.

9/11/2016, 9:09:55 PM: Manuel Neuer became WA Delegate of Creamoland.
9/11/2016, 9:09:54 PM: We Are Not The ASIS relocated from Jumpy to Creamoland.
9/11/2016, 9:09:54 PM: Manuel Neuer relocated from Spear Danes to Creamoland.
9/11/2016, 9:09:54 PM: Altmoras XX relocated from Spear Danes to Creamoland.
9/11/2016, 9:09:53 PM: HyWa 7 relocated from Jumpy to Creamoland.
9/11/2016, 9:09:52 PM: Black Watch 72 relocated from Jumpy to Creamoland.

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Postby Zemnaya Svoboda » Tue Sep 13, 2016 9:12 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:It is the goal of this order to efficiently defeat as many invaders as possible as frequently as needed. We are not the white knights who clamor for the approval of our peers. We embrace the darkness and shall follow our enemy wherever they attempt to spread the blight.


If I may, what does this mean regarding regions such as The North Pacific, whose regional military may invade regions under certain limitations, but do not identify as "Raiders" and indeed most of whose members do not invade?

Specifically, what does this mean for what conduct we should expect from Wardens toward The North Pacific (our home) itself, our military's jump points, and Nazi Europe or other regions we might capture for political reasons?

(I am not asking about instances where our military might be temporarily occupying a region as I expect the Wardens to oppose such operations and indeed The North Pacific explicitly does not consider confrontation in third regions to be hostilities, as defined in our alliance treaties with Europeia, Albion, The East Pacific, the South Pacific, and Taijitu).

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Benevolent Thomas
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Tue Sep 13, 2016 1:41 pm

Zemnaya Svoboda wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:It is the goal of this order to efficiently defeat as many invaders as possible as frequently as needed. We are not the white knights who clamor for the approval of our peers. We embrace the darkness and shall follow our enemy wherever they attempt to spread the blight.


If I may, what does this mean regarding regions such as The North Pacific, whose regional military may invade regions under certain limitations, but do not identify as "Raiders" and indeed most of whose members do not invade?

Specifically, what does this mean for what conduct we should expect from Wardens toward The North Pacific (our home) itself, our military's jump points, and Nazi Europe or other regions we might capture for political reasons?

(I am not asking about instances where our military might be temporarily occupying a region as I expect the Wardens to oppose such operations and indeed The North Pacific explicitly does not consider confrontation in third regions to be hostilities, as defined in our alliance treaties with Europeia, Albion, The East Pacific, the South Pacific, and Taijitu).

The Order does not have ambitions to treat the independent game created regions as enemies to target. We will defend against their attempted invasions, we will liberate their successful occupations, we will not seek to destroy them. In practice, the Order has mostly worked with independents dating back to our first iteration in 2015. We'd also hope to be invited to help regions such as the North Pacific destroy regions such as Nazi Europa that attack innocent regions while spreading hateful ideologies.

Now if a region such as TNP decided to change their policies so that they began to destroy UCRs, rather than their current policy of limited destruction, we'd adjust our policies as well. That's not a threat nor an attempt to intimidate, I just want to be up-front so feelings aren't hurt later.

I don't wish to elaborate too much as one prolonged game of "what if" would leave the Order unable to conduct any offensive operations in any regions. As it stands, The North Pacific does not need to worry about aggressive actions from The Order of the Grey Wardens.
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Postby Falapatorius » Tue Sep 13, 2016 4:44 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Now if a region such as TNP decided to change their policies so that they began to destroy UCRs, rather than their current policy of limited destruction, we'd adjust our policies as well. That's not a threat nor an attempt to intimidate, I just want to be up-front so feelings aren't hurt later.

This kind of honesty is lacking in R/D Gameplay. I'm impressed with your success thus far (and tbh, your determination in the face of the 'outrage' directed at TGW by certain raider regions). :clap:

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Postby Cormactopia II » Tue Sep 13, 2016 7:22 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:Now if a region such as TNP decided to change their policies so that they began to destroy UCRs, rather than their current policy of limited destruction, we'd adjust our policies as well. That's not a threat nor an attempt to intimidate, I just want to be up-front so feelings aren't hurt later.

I don't wish to elaborate too much as one prolonged game of "what if" would leave the Order unable to conduct any offensive operations in any regions. As it stands, The North Pacific does not need to worry about aggressive actions from The Order of the Grey Wardens.

I assume then this standard would also apply to regions like Balder and The Land of Kings and Emperors, neither of which are raider regions and neither of which engage in region destruction?
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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:22 am

Cormactopia II wrote:
Benevolent Thomas wrote:Now if a region such as TNP decided to change their policies so that they began to destroy UCRs, rather than their current policy of limited destruction, we'd adjust our policies as well. That's not a threat nor an attempt to intimidate, I just want to be up-front so feelings aren't hurt later.

I don't wish to elaborate too much as one prolonged game of "what if" would leave the Order unable to conduct any offensive operations in any regions. As it stands, The North Pacific does not need to worry about aggressive actions from The Order of the Grey Wardens.

I assume then this standard would also apply to regions like Balder and The Land of Kings and Emperors, neither of which are raider regions and neither of which engage in region destruction?

Yup. Again, I don't want to sit here and play "what if" with everyone. Regions can label themselves whatever they want, so I'm not necessarily going to always agree with what a region defines themselves as being. Last I saw LKE, I was actually invited to one of their operations and there's great potential for us to work together in the future to destroy regions such as Nazi Europa. Regions are free to get in contact with the High-Constable or myself if they'd like to establish an understanding with the Wardens. I don't want to address every region individually in this thread when most regions can easily assume whether or not their is cause to worry about the Wardens.
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Postby Cormactopia II » Wed Sep 14, 2016 7:43 am

Benevolent Thomas wrote:
Cormactopia II wrote:I assume then this standard would also apply to regions like Balder and The Land of Kings and Emperors, neither of which are raider regions and neither of which engage in region destruction?

Yup. Again, I don't want to sit here and play "what if" with everyone. Regions can label themselves whatever they want, so I'm not necessarily going to always agree with what a region defines themselves as being. Last I saw LKE, I was actually invited to one of their operations and there's great potential for us to work together in the future to destroy regions such as Nazi Europa. Regions are free to get in contact with the High-Constable or myself if they'd like to establish an understanding with the Wardens. I don't want to address every region individually in this thread when most regions can easily assume whether or not their is cause to worry about the Wardens.

I wonder how that understanding may differ if certain regions got in contact with you, compared to getting in contact with your High Constable, Tim Stark. On 22 July 2016, in the regional Skype chat for the Osiris Fraternal Order, your High Constable went on at length about how much he would enjoy serving as lead on behalf of the Order of the Grey Wardens in an invasion against The Land of Kings and Emperors. He noted that "LKE would be lost for good if that founder was DEAT and [the Grey Wardens] took the delegacy." He went on to say that he would "torch the [expletive deleted] out of it." In fact, he said he "would sit there for as long as possible to torch it. Years? Done, sign me up." He stated that he "would leave nothing left of LKE." Concluding his comments on the prospect of the Grey Wardens invading and destroying The Land of Kings and Emperors, your High Constable said: "If it goes founderless and I get delegacy, that region will be burnt to a husk. Them's the facts."

I suppose I'm just wondering, in light of the disparity between your assurances that the Grey Wardens would not invade The Land of Kings and Emperors versus your High Constable's earlier assurances that you would, how The North Pacific, Balder, or anyone else can take the Grey Wardens' word for it that you will not invade them. It doesn't seem that the leadership of the Order of the Grey Wardens is on the same page in regard to extending your aggression against raider regions to independent and imperialist regions. I'm not even sure you're reading the same book. Alternatively, this could be a case of good cop, bad cop, in which you pretend to be friendly toward independent and imperialist regions to gain their support for defensive operations now, while your High Constable stokes the fires of hostility to be turned against these regions should they prove vulnerable later. In any event, I suspect this will be concerning to independent and imperialist regions who are receiving your assurances that the Grey Wardens wouldn't invade them.
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Postby Shizensky » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:23 am

Cormactopia II wrote:I assume then this standard would also apply to regions like Balder and The Land of Kings and Emperors, neither of which are raider regions and neither of which engage in region destruction?


As soon as I saw this I knew you were waiting for someone to trigger your trap card.
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Postby Cormactopia II » Wed Sep 14, 2016 8:51 am

Shizensky wrote:
Cormactopia II wrote:I assume then this standard would also apply to regions like Balder and The Land of Kings and Emperors, neither of which are raider regions and neither of which engage in region destruction?


As soon as I saw this I knew you were waiting for someone to trigger your trap card.

Believe it or not, I assumed based on the many public statements Tim has made regarding invading The LKE that Thomas would answer that the Grey Wardens would invade The LKE if given the opportunity. I was quite surprised to see him respond otherwise.
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Postby Parcia » Wed Sep 14, 2016 9:15 am

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:59 pm

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Olevsky returns to do what he does best; drink and defend

Another eventful night for The Grey Wardens, with lots of action, drama, muting, and memes. As the update began, a great number of Wardens reported for duty. Among that number were the returning-from-vacation Chamberlain Olevsky, everyone's favorite battle Horse, new recruit Cokeland, and most of the usual suspects. Having spotted some Blighthawks in the skies, as well as those dudes that declared war on The Order, the Wardens suited up and went to kick ass. Lots of fast moves, quick jumps, and Tim being muted for overcomming led to an overall victorious night. Seven defenses, a tag, a liberation, and continued support in our operations against the blight were the stats for tonight, with nine Wardens answering the call to battle.

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Postby Altmoras » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:12 am

The gang's back together! Darkspawn beware.
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Postby Olevsky » Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:18 am

It was definitely a refreshing update after returning from my relaxation time.

Plenty more to come. :P

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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Sep 17, 2016 10:44 pm

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A victorious Warden stands over the ashes of fallen Darkspawn


An eventful night for the Order, as it continued its war against the Darkspawn. The Kingdom of Kvatch, for long a Darkspawn stronghold, continued to burn. Some Darkspawn attempted to reclaim their grounds, odd as they spent so much time disavowing those involved with Kvatch, but were brutally repelled both by the will of the gods and by some semi-inebriated clicking. Twelve Darkspawn were slain, with more expected to see themselves at the sword before their next wave. Though the High Constable was disappointed with his abilities, he admitted rust in his armor as a surely-valid reason for the slowness. In addition to those festivities, Darkspawn found some time to attempt some other jumps. A minor run by some Shrieks was intercepted consistently, with three victories being found. The Darkspawn forces also attempted an attack against the sovereign region of Valhalla but those associated with the attempt were swiftly blocked by Wardens and allies vigilant in the field who had seen the attack coming. All in all, a truly successful update yet again, and one showing that for all the war the Darkspawn wish to wage, the true war is the one coming to them.




Regions Defended
The Alliance of Oblivion
Acid Sea
The Scientific Union
Valhalla

Burning Darkspawn Hive
The Kingdom of Kvatch

Wardens Involved
High Constable Tim-Opolis
Warden-Commander Deadeye Jack
Warden-Commander Altmoras
Warden Birdkeeper
Warden Dolen Tum En Coia
Warden GCMR of Cokeland

Allies Involved In Our Victory
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In Death, Sacrifice.
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Postby 20XX WAVESHINE » Sun Sep 18, 2016 9:03 am

Its a shame that Vac finally resurrected the founder after 5 days.
I was just starting to BLIPBLIPBLIPBLIP people jumping at the region.

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Postby Benevolent Thomas » Sun Sep 18, 2016 10:53 am

20XX WAVESHINE wrote:Its a shame that Vac finally resurrected the founder after 5 days.
I was just starting to BLIPBLIPBLIPBLIP people jumping at the region.

Its alright. We got to have a good amount of fun at his expense. And at the expense of those who tried to liberate the invader region.
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Postby Vaculatestar64 » Sun Sep 18, 2016 4:01 pm

Benevolent Thomas wrote:
20XX WAVESHINE wrote:Its a shame that Vac finally resurrected the founder after 5 days.
I was just starting to BLIPBLIPBLIPBLIP people jumping at the region.

Its alright. We got to have a good amount of fun at his expense. And at the expense of those who tried to liberate the invader region.


I found out about it awhile back. I decided to sit back and try to close as many of your people in the trap as possible before coming back and banjecting.

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