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Greater Cesnica wrote:AAND I just got swept for Predator usage. 6 months WA ban. Not my proudest moment.

You have not been puppetswept, only WA banned.

Would you like to be?

I'm guessing whatever this guy's problems are they have nothing to do with Predator.

https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27706870

cri

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:“play stupid games win stupid prizes”

lol pretty much this

I really don't understand why you would admit to using an illegal script for no reason.

I don't support cheating, but If you are going to cheat, at least don't admit to doing it.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:I really don't understand why you would admit to using an illegal script for no reason.

I don't support cheating, but If you are going to cheat, at least don't admit to doing it.

Dude, they were caught. They admitted after the fact.


Edit: I guess they did.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:I really don't understand why you would admit to using an illegal script for no reason.

I don't support cheating, but If you are going to cheat, at least don't admit to doing it.

Why would I be honest? I wonder why?

(This is not a confession No, it isn’t. I’m just putting myself as the example)

Greater Cesnica wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27706870

cri

It might just be that the Moderators are simply cracking down on anyone admitting to using Predator, even jokingly. The seriousness of the matter regarding Predator, however, is what may have warranted this kind of reaction.

If you really haven't used Predator in the first place and just posted what you said sarcastically and/or jokingly, you could try filing an appeal. Otherwise, it'd be best to learn from the WA ban and be happy you were given a relatively more lenient punishment.

La Navasse wrote:

Greater Cesnica wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27706870

cri

It might just be that the Moderators are simply cracking down on anyone admitting to using Predator, even jokingly. The seriousness of the matter regarding Predator, however, is what may have warranted this kind of reaction.

If you really haven't used Predator in the first place and just posted what you said sarcastically and/or jokingly, you could try filing an appeal. Otherwise, it'd be best to learn from the WA ban and be happy you were given a relatively more lenient punishment.

So, if it's that bad then....
what does Predator do?
Apologies if this is the wrong place, I'm just really curious as to why Predator is gameplay Satan.

Serrus wrote:

La Navasse wrote:It might just be that the Moderators are simply cracking down on anyone admitting to using Predator, even jokingly. The seriousness of the matter regarding Predator, however, is what may have warranted this kind of reaction.

If you really haven't used Predator in the first place and just posted what you said sarcastically and/or jokingly, you could try filing an appeal. Otherwise, it'd be best to learn from the WA ban and be happy you were given a relatively more lenient punishment.

So, if it's that bad then....
what does Predator do?
Apologies if this is the wrong place, I'm just really curious as to why Predator is gameplay Satan.

It violated API Rules. It became satan after a techie investigated the script and deemed it illegal. Not to mention to even use it you had to contact a DOS player, of whom was DOS'd for cheating.

I'm gameplay satan though!

The Church of Satan wrote:I'm gameplay satan though!

Are you confessing to predator usage

Just making sure there's no identity confusion, heh. And I thought only raiders used Predator. >_>

The Church of Satan wrote:Just making sure there's no identity confusion, heh. And I thought only raiders used Predator. >_>

What kind of GP Satan isn't a raider? You're doing it wrong.

USS Monitor wrote:

The Church of Satan wrote:Just making sure there's no identity confusion, heh. And I thought only raiders used Predator. >_>

What kind of GP Satan isn't a raider? You're doing it wrong.

The New Age kind

Modernization is important in this progressive era.

La Navasse wrote:

Greater Cesnica wrote:https://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=27706870

cri

It might just be that the Moderators are simply cracking down on anyone admitting to using Predator, even jokingly. The seriousness of the matter regarding Predator, however, is what may have warranted this kind of reaction.

If you really haven't used Predator in the first place and just posted what you said sarcastically and/or jokingly, you could try filing an appeal. Otherwise, it'd be best to learn from the WA ban and be happy you were given a relatively more lenient punishment.

Oh, I'm thankful alright.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:I really don't understand why you would admit to using an illegal script for no reason.

I don't support cheating, but If you are going to cheat, at least don't admit to doing it.

I got exposed.

Greater Cesnica wrote:

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:I really don't understand why you would admit to using an illegal script for no reason.

I don't support cheating, but If you are going to cheat, at least don't admit to doing it.

I got exposed.

Exposed? You never used it. You lied and the mods hit you for it. There is nothing "impressive" or "note-worth" by having used Predator, nor will it "make you look cool." I doubt you ever have spoken to the DOS that made it. Please stop this. Not cool, not hip, not anything but bad.

The Greatest Bestest Nation wrote:I really don't understand why you would admit to using an illegal script for no reason.

I don't support cheating, but If you are going to cheat, at least don't admit to doing it.

[Oakrugia: Ya know, that ain't a good point. He had to do it because someone must tell the truth and admit that they did it. Postponing the fact that he did not do the illegal script would probably make him "get a type of sin".]

I've been looking into R/D gameplay for a while, and I keep seeing this thing called "Predator" being mentioned. All I know about it is this:
[*] Using it is basically the R/D equivalent to nuclear attack.
[*] It is very illegal because is violates the rules of the game.
[*] The creator of the script, who you need to contact to use it, was DOSed for (guess what) cheating.
What I don't know is what Predator actually does. My guess is that it lets you move regions and endorse a target just before the update so that no one can counter you, but I'm curious as to whether or not this is correct.
(Note: I have no intention of using Predator or any tool like it. Doing so would take away any honor present in military gameplay and defeat the entire point. I'm just curious about what exactly makes Predator so hated, feared, and illegal.)

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I've been looking into R/D gameplay for a while, and I keep seeing this thing called "Predator" being mentioned. All I know about it is this:
[*] Using it is basically the R/D equivalent to nuclear attack.
[*] It is very illegal because is violates the rules of the game.
[*] The creator of the script, who you need to contact to use it, was DOSed for (guess what) cheating.
What I don't know is what Predator actually does. My guess is that it lets you move regions and endorse a target just before the update so that no one can counter you, but I'm curious as to whether or not this is correct.
(Note: I have no intention of using Predator or any tool like it. Doing so would take away any honor present in military gameplay and defeat the entire point. I'm just curious about what exactly makes Predator so hated, feared, and illegal.)

The update time of a region is fundamentally important to R/D, because you need to move in close to that time or risk being discovered and ejected. Predator gave users update times that were more accurate than you could get legally (there's some fuzzing in the times that the game provides to keep either side of R/D from being unbeatable). But since it no longer has a place in legal gameplay, I doubt that the mods want continued discussion of it on NS.

Phydios wrote:

Evil Dictators Happyland wrote:I've been looking into R/D gameplay for a while, and I keep seeing this thing called "Predator" being mentioned. All I know about it is this:
[*] Using it is basically the R/D equivalent to nuclear attack.
[*] It is very illegal because is violates the rules of the game.
[*] The creator of the script, who you need to contact to use it, was DOSed for (guess what) cheating.
What I don't know is what Predator actually does. My guess is that it lets you move regions and endorse a target just before the update so that no one can counter you, but I'm curious as to whether or not this is correct.
(Note: I have no intention of using Predator or any tool like it. Doing so would take away any honor present in military gameplay and defeat the entire point. I'm just curious about what exactly makes Predator so hated, feared, and illegal.)

The update time of a region is fundamentally important to R/D, because you need to move in close to that time or risk being discovered and ejected. Predator gave users update times that were more accurate than you could get legally (there's some fuzzing in the times that the game provides to keep either side of R/D from being unbeatable). But since it no longer has a place in legal gameplay, I doubt that the mods want continued discussion of it on NS.

I figured that's what it did, but I wanted to inquire further. I've only been involved in one (minor) battle, and the times of my team were all a few minutes off. I can see how cutting that down to a few seconds would help, even to the point of being unbeatable.

It's actually quite possible to be fairly precise and very accurate with legal means. Predator however used illegal means, which gave it advantages in accuracy, precision, and simplicity. That's not fair play.

If you want to use custom code for NS, make absolutely sure that it's legal.