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Ever-Wandering Souls
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:46 pm

You've been MIA for Balder's recent military activity, including helping invade Anarchy, and appointing the best Walken fan on NS head of their military.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Riftey » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:48 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:You've been MIA for Balder's recent military activity, including helping invade Anarchy, and appointing the best Walken fan on NS head of their military.

What's your point? Real life always takes the lead. I thought that was a commonly shared view on NS or has that died off?
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Postby Hileville » Wed Jan 20, 2016 7:56 pm

Riftey wrote:
Aura 001 wrote:It is undoubtedly subjective. By raw nation numbers, accounting for range, and excluding null regions, I would rank them this way:

1. The North Pacific
2. The Pacific
3. The East Pacific
4. The South Pacific, The West Pacific [Tied]
5. Lazarus
6. Balder, Osiris [Tied]
7. The Rejected Realms
8. 10000 Islands
9. Europeia
10. The Communist Bloc

Not...Umm...

Wouldn't you agree that Osiris has been a focus of attention more so than Balder since their creation? I sure would think that. They can't be equal on terms on significance.

And when it comes to TSP; umm...what?



They were going by the amount of nations in each region. But thanks for your positive thoughts of TSP. :)
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Postby Riftey » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:00 pm

Hileville wrote:But thanks for your positive thoughts of TSP. :)

ahaha. I don't think anything negative of TSP. I just haven't seen anything really come from them honestly. No stimulus to form an opinion.

Id have said the same thing of TP prior to the NLO drama. Nothing had happened in the timeframe of me being on NS which is the past 2 years. If nothing "really" happens in 2 years it stands to reason that their significance is not as high. :)
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:03 pm

Riftey wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:You've been MIA for Balder's recent military activity, including helping invade Anarchy, and appointing the best Walken fan on NS head of their military.

What's your point? Real life always takes the lead. I thought that was a commonly shared view on NS or has that died off?


Point was that they've been relative and active recently, adding to their significance. Nothing more or less.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Riftey » Wed Jan 20, 2016 8:04 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Riftey wrote:What's your point? Real life always takes the lead. I thought that was a commonly shared view on NS or has that died off?


Point was that they've been relative and active recently, adding to their significance. Nothing more or less.

Cool Cool :)

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Postby Zaolat » Thu Jan 21, 2016 3:01 am

Top Ten People:
1. Zaolat
2. Zaolat
3. Zaolat.
4. Zao
5. Mekhet
6. Tim
7. Koth
8. Sev & Xoriet
9. Syl
10. Venico

Top Ten Regions:
1. Tim
2. Osiris
3. The Black Hawks
4. Spiritus
5. Equinox
6. Also Tim
7. Harem of Awesome
8. Sanctuary of Syl
9. the Pacific
10. The Brotherhood of Malice
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Postby Todd McCloud » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:28 am

This thread has a severe lack of The East Pacific in it. I can't even.

Do we need a Free Press News article to hash this out once and for all, or are we all of the understanding that the NS world clearly revolves around that glorious region?
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Postby Todd McCloud » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:30 am

Tim-Opolis wrote:I realize that there are no specific 10 listed on those nations, but I've already said more than I feel like I can safely say. Miniluv is everywhere, afterall. Remember, Gameplay: War is Peace. Freedom is Slavery. Ignorance is Strength. Stability is Stagnation. Many prominent individuals have blown their whistles about Miniluv throughout the years and then fallen into obscurity, the most major recent one being Unibot, a player who went from hero to zero in the eyes of many across Gameplay. Was Miniluv involved? Who knows?! We must be prudent about this global conspiracy, however, as rumors of a reborn Empire summon themselves at the same time as this resurgence of Miniluv.

It's all about the Animalluminati, those 2010-ish delegates and bigwigs and some smallwigs that had animals in their flag.
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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:03 am

Todd McCloud wrote:This thread has a severe lack of The East Pacific in it. I can't even.

Do we need a Free Press News article to hash this out once and for all, or are we all of the understanding that the NS world clearly revolves around that glorious region?

Aura 001 wrote:3. The East Pacific

Tim-Opolis wrote:[*]The East Pacific

:P
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:51 am

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
Todd McCloud wrote:This thread has a severe lack of The East Pacific in it. I can't even.

Do we need a Free Press News article to hash this out once and for all, or are we all of the understanding that the NS world clearly revolves around that glorious region?

Aura 001 wrote:3. The East Pacific

Tim-Opolis wrote:[*]The East Pacific

:P



Remove this post immediately NSA! If you do we might get an FPNS article!
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby Solorni » Thu Jan 21, 2016 11:53 am

On Most "Significant"

This is all extremely subjective and greatly depends on what region you are in and what circles you travel. If you are in TEP, then obviously you think that region is the bees knees. But if you are part of a raider org, it's likely that to you TEP and all of the other GCRs mean nothing to you. So really, it's all about location and circles.

The reason this is bad

Ranking people and regions just tends to make people angry and fight. Although I'm going to be hypocritical here and brag about one aspect of Balder.

On Balder's Military

For Balder, on it's last two missions with many other regions it has had the 2nd most and most updaters for the Anarchy and Belgium missions respectively. I think currently it might have the strongest update force among the GCRs although I'm not sure if many others have active military forces currently. Although it's important that Balder keeps up this position of strength as its still all rather recent.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:02 pm

Solorni wrote:On Most "Significant"

This is all extremely subjective and greatly depends on what region you are in and what circles you travel. If you are in TEP, then obviously you think that region is the bees knees. But if you are part of a raider org, it's likely that to you TEP and all of the other GCRs mean nothing to you. So really, it's all about location and circles.

The reason this is bad

Ranking people and regions just tends to make people angry and fight. Although I'm going to be hypocritical here and brag about one aspect of Balder.

On Balder's Military

For Balder, on it's last two missions with many other regions it has had the 2nd most and most updaters for the Anarchy and Belgium missions respectively. I think currently it might have the strongest update force among the GCRs although I'm not sure if many others have active military forces currently. Although it's important that Balder keeps up this position of strength as its still all rather recent.


Counterpiece:

I am a big part of the raider org. TEP means fun to me. I know a lot of cool people who are in/have been in TEP. If you look, three raiders have recently gotten GCR raider military positions: You know RZM, of course, GreyGhost in TEP, and Festavo returns to scribe of war in Osiris, IIRC. Even our own CoE spent a while in TNP, Jakker and others have roles in Osi, Xor advises in EPSA...the list goes on. It's more a Gameplay circle, far less limited.

Isn't that what GP is? Hell, isn't that what recruiting on NS is? "We're the best _______." I'd say this is generally one of the healthier and more constructive arguments to be held in GP, at least compared to R/D squabbles.

Won't counter that last bit, I even brought up your increased recent military presence a few posts above :P
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http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Solorni » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:18 pm

I was just trying to say that it really depends on where you are and your interests in gameplay. Didn't mean to specifically say in all cases raiders don't like GCRs. Although idk if RZM counts because he was more of a political player before becoming more of a raider. Plus he is my son :hug:
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:27 pm

Solorni wrote:On Balder's Military

For Balder, on it's last two missions with many other regions it has had the 2nd most and most updaters for the Anarchy and Belgium missions respectively. I think currently it might have the strongest update force among the GCRs although I'm not sure if many others have active military forces currently. Although it's important that Balder keeps up this position of strength as its still all rather recent.


Wait... Belgium was invaded.


Nobody tells me anything anymore.

I just read up on the RMB of it :blush:

Oh well.
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Postby Solorni » Thu Jan 21, 2016 12:31 pm

I love you Blaat <3
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 21, 2016 1:20 pm

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Postby CreepyCut » Thu Jan 21, 2016 5:28 pm

For the people are we going by what they are part of in size, or by their...personality...therefore influence?
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Postby Zaolat » Thu Jan 21, 2016 10:42 pm

Solorni wrote:
The reason this is bad

Ranking people and regions just tends to make people angry and fight. Although I'm going to be hypocritical here and brag about one aspect of Balder.


My list was objective and unbiased fact. With zero controversy. So I think you're wrong.
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Postby Solorni » Fri Jan 22, 2016 6:57 am

I'm sowwy :(
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Postby Xoriet » Fri Jan 22, 2016 7:42 am

Zaolat wrote:
Solorni wrote:
The reason this is bad

Ranking people and regions just tends to make people angry and fight. Although I'm going to be hypocritical here and brag about one aspect of Balder.


My list was objective and unbiased fact. With zero controversy. So I think you're wrong.

I grant my tentative approval on the basis that you put Sev with me on that list.
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Postby Zaolat » Fri Jan 22, 2016 10:55 am

Xoriet wrote:
Zaolat wrote:
My list was objective and unbiased fact. With zero controversy. So I think you're wrong.

I grant my tentative approval on the basis that you put Sev with me on that list.

But I love you & Sev equally, so that's why and it gave me room to use another number. See unbiased!
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Postby Aura 001 » Tue Jan 26, 2016 9:53 am

It seems the player that raised questions over my list of significant regions has allowed their nation to lapse.

Regardless, Hileville accurately addressed those questions by pointing out that my listed was based on each region's nation size. Size is undoubtedly a significant factor, and one that is difficult to contest. Everything else used as criteria for which regions are the most significant will have to be subjective.
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