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by **Statevia** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 6:49 pm

Pravda: Nationstates Left Oppositionist Newspaper

Zenny: A modern day kerensky
Many leftists have begun to Zenny Winter and her "revolution" in The Communist Bloc. However Zenny is just a wolf in sheeps clothing. In fact she is more like Kerensky the "leftist" leader of the russian provisional government. Zenny has ejected the true revolutionaries and replaced them with officials from her revisionist United Zennyist Front. All socialist revolutions have been driven by the people. Zenny didn't even call a referendum for her "revolution." Then she claimed to know all abou vanguard theory in marxist-leninism. Has she read Marx? Does she know anything about leninism? She says that Lenin's Communist Party of the Soviet Union, CPSU was the single party vanguard party in nationstates. She is mistaken. The CPSU was the vanguard party for the whole world, for the entire communist international. Does the leader wish to seize other socialist region now too? Finally let us examine her "revolutionary command" This unelected and unrepresentative ruling council. She has appointed her OWN Family Members while rejecting respected, left wing nations such as mindbending marxists and lentrotka. So oppose Zenny.

Condemn the World Assembly?
Yes it seems that Bitely is back. There attempt to condemn the WA was controversial and ultimitely a failure. However a new debate has been sparked about the WA and Nationstates as a whole. With ads and telegram campaigns this is the new hot topic. This newspaper advocates a middle path. Why not make it harder to propose things so that WA resolutions are better quality and more effective. Why not have a 3/4 majority required to pass a law so that there is a more thoughtful legislative process. There is surely something wrong when 3 line proposals are in queue.

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by **Luxdonia** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:22 pm

*Looks at communistic propaganda* Zenny's was more amusing.

Looks at sig: 'I am a Left Wing Irish american who supports the IRA". How wonderful. You have already cemented your postion as one of my favourite NSers.

by **Statevia** » Mon Oct 12, 2015 10:02 pm

Luxdonia wrote:*Looks at communistic propaganda* Zenny's was more amusing.

Looks at sig: 'I am a Left Wing Irish american who supports the IRA". How wonderful. You have already cemented your postion as one of my favourite NSers.

Was it? And you know the British occupying army is terrorist not the IRA. And what a compliment!

by **Consular** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:34 am

Discussion on what constitutes a terrorist is better suited for NSG.

Seems we've found yet another person irked by Zenny enacting her revolution/insidious-plan/whatever-she's-doing in TCB.

by **Zenny** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:43 am

Just to be clear, this guy is a well known troll from TCB just trying to stir up drama

Has absolutely no idea what hes talking about, is not a member of the NS Left, and has (just as when he was apart of TCB) just made up claims for the purpose of slandering me. Even the "revolutionaries" hes talking about were begging me to ban him and rejected his application to join their organization.

You should find a productive use of your time, Mikhail. Sorry that you can't be a parasite off of us anymore to get attention, but you should honestly move onto attacking someone else. And stop making fake accounts and lying on citizenship applications trying to get back in, its getting bloody annoying.

by **Statevia** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:13 am

Me, you are the person who created a shelter for reactionaries.

by **Solorni** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:19 am

I find it highly amusing that your paper is called Pravda. Firstly, Kerensky was a leftist as he was a member of the Socialist Revolutionaries and secondly papers like Pravda themselves were quite supportive of him initially. Their biggest issue with him early on were his finance ministers plans to print more money as the writers of Pravda felt this would create great inflation. Also Kerensky didn't really eject people from his government although he did order the arrest of Lenin. So Kerensky did not have the revolutionary form of government that Lenin proposed like Zenny has now. Many leftist Socialist Revolutionaries joined the communist, thus the party of Kerensky is more similar to one of the pre-revolution parties in TCB which stayed true to the cause.

Lastly, Kerensky was nowhere near as successful or popular as Zenny is! His Provisional Government failed because they remained in the War and in turn the economy kept struggling. Yet, with Zenny likely due to her Leninist beliefs has been able to get The Communist Bloc thriving! Far more parallels between her and Lenin than Kerensky.

by **Statevia** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:33 am

Perhaps but there is still a large opisition

by **Statevia** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:37 am

Kerensky was a Right SR not a Left SR. And yes Zennyism was successful. I was a member of the United Zennyist Front for a time. Yet Zenny has gone against her principles of democracy. Her monopoly on power was being threatened.

by **Solorni** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:40 am

Statevia wrote:Perhaps but there is still a large opisition

It is actually only a minority of primarily Kulaks and capitalists in TCB who oppose the revolution. They are loud and the counter-revolutionaries that want to seem larger than they are. Don't be a Kulak comrade, there is still time for you to become a revolutionary in the Communist Bloc!

by **Caracasus** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 4:42 am

"Information" about TCB aside, your proposal for making it harder for nations to suggest proposals for the WA would have done nothing to stop Bitely's nonsense from passing. He submitted several attempts, found one that was technically legal and then mass telegrammed. There's no way to stop that kind of nonsense without seriously impeding the efforts of other WA representatives to do their jobs. If anything, it'd put off new players even more - not a good thing for any community.

by **Zenny** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 5:22 am

Statevia wrote:Kerensky was a Right SR not a Left SR. And yes Zennyism was successful. I was a member of the United Zennyist Front for a time. Yet Zenny has gone against her principles of democracy. Her monopoly on power was being threatened.

There was a monopoly, I completely agree, and destroying that monopoly is party why we did the revolution to begin with. All the work was piled onto me and the continuing survival of TCB did and does rely on me since everytime I step away for a couple days, population dips, nothing happens on the forum, point is we were not and are not self suffecient yet, hence the entire system needs to be completely redone to create a system where we can be more inclusive and effective in training, allowing new people to move up the ladder in TCB to where even they can train other to do tasks. As for it being threatened, no there was never any serious threat to the status quo, UZF won every single election from September 2014 on, it was in effect a one-party government which I don't like and neither did our opponents, hence a single party or no parties were the best options and staying in line with Lenin's theory of the vanguard party, we established the Workers' Party.

You were just talking a few weeks ago about how Zennyism was a totalitarian stalinist capitalist ideology and now you're saying it was successful and I turned my back on my Zennyist Democratic ideals lol. Its unfortunate that not many others in TCB are active in gameplay hence I do most of our talking here, but anyone else whos been active could confirm your trolling and attention seeking.

by **Statevia** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:03 am

Well actually Ive done some research on different communist systems of government and have come up with this one which I am going to use in EastBloc.
There are three parties
The Communist Party of EastBloc
The Socialist Workers Party
The Democratic Labor Party

There will be two chambers: One house will be democratically elected the other will have seats reserved for parties.
50% cpe 50% Socialist 50% DLP

by **Pierconium** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:23 am

Statevia wrote:Well actually Ive done some research on different communist systems of government and have come up with this one which I am going to use in EastBloc.
There are three parties
The Communist Party of EastBloc
The Socialist Workers Party
The Democratic Labor Party

There will be two chambers: One house will be democratically elected the other will have seats reserved for parties.
50% cpe 50% Socialist 50% DLP

That seems a bit ambitious.

by **Renewed Imperial Germany** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:25 am

Officially banned in Renewed Imperial Germany. Burning all printed copies as we speak. Good day, Communist!

(Not really, we have freedom of the press)

by **Renewed Imperial Germany** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:26 am

Statevia wrote:50% cpe 50% Socialist 50% DLP

150%? Even in Soviet Russia that isn't possible.

by **Statevia** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 6:35 am

Oh sorry 25% SWP 25% DLP

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 7:36 am

Statevia wrote:Oh sorry 25% SWP 25% DLP

Why does the CPE get 50% when the others only get half that? Seems a bit unfair.

by **Statevia** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:13 am

Well that's the point. Have the mainstream Marxist Leninist party balance out the other, less mainstream parties

by **We Are Not the NSA** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:16 am

Statevia wrote:Well that's the point. Have the mainstream Marxist Leninist party balance out the other, less mainstream parties

Ah, okay. I thought you were trying to make it even, and was like "wait! The math doesn't hold up!"

by **Herrebrugh** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 11:18 am

Needs more Cyrillic.

by **Consular** » Tue Oct 13, 2015 9:20 pm

Didn't you just criticise Zenny for being undemocratic? Your idea of democracy is pre-made political parties which already have a prescribed amount of power they can get.

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