NationStates

Ridersyl wrote:

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:We don't tolerate rulebreaking. If we had any hint of information any members of our region were breaking scripting rules, they would no longer be members of our region.

I remember when I said this as an officer in TBR.

Don't trust in the party line, Souls. Chances are, someone you trust immensely is going to end up being the one that's giving site rules the finger.

Ridersyl wrote:

Consular wrote:I am advocating honestly -- if people want to raid they will, I'm saying they should be honest in that their chosen activity is in no way benevolent.

When I was choosing to actively raid, I was doing it for the entertainment I found in the activity itself and in interacting with others in my raiding group.
There were many others raiding for the same reason. Call it a lie all you want. Just as not all defenders are moralists, not all raiders are griefists.

As for raiding being destructive.. Yes, of course it is. IMO The only valid point in favor of raiding's impact on the game is it provides activity on NS for people like me who don't really care for the rest of the site's features. Any other "raiding improves the game" thing is more than likely just something raiders invented for the purpose of arguing with others.

By the way, I ignored the fact raiding was destructive. I still ignore it. My reason? I just don't care. I think no-one should be heavily invested in an online region in this game to the point where it emotionally affects them, but if they are, they should be informed enough to keep it safe from raiders. Basically, it's on the residents to keep their home safe.

And before anyone goes there, no, I wouldn't apply that same logic to real life, because we are not talking about real life. We're talking about the motivations and effects of groups of people clicking on buttons and taking up imaginary positions with their pretend nations on a website. Way different situations.

Ridersyl wrote:

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:We don't tolerate rulebreaking. If we had any hint of information any members of our region were breaking scripting rules, they would no longer be members of our region.

I remember when I said this as an officer in TBR.

Don't trust in the party line, Souls. Chances are, someone you trust immensely is going to end up being the one that's giving site rules the finger.

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:

Ridersyl wrote:I remember when I said this as an officer in TBR.

Don't trust in the party line, Souls. Chances are, someone you trust immensely is going to end up being the one that's giving site rules the finger.

While I understand the history in your case.... talking party lines given to me, rather than ones I may be giving out - I'll assume you're talking people above me. So... Jakker, Tram, Red Back, CoE, and perhaps my fellow recent inductees, Kleo and Wetwork. Somehow, I don't exactly see them doing much rulebreaking. In part because none of them are particularly obsessed with tools and automation. We're pretty set into doing things a more manual way.