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Cormac Stark
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:25 pm

Stalker Queen wrote:Well raiders have been "incessantly trolling the entire game" for 10+ years and the admins actually came around in 2006 to abolish the griefing rules to our benefit, I might add.

That moment when a raider admits they're incessantly trolling and concedes that admins have rewarded their trolling for years.

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Sun Oct 11, 2015 11:32 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Stalker Queen wrote:Well raiders have been "incessantly trolling the entire game" for 10+ years and the admins actually came around in 2006 to abolish the griefing rules to our benefit, I might add.

That moment when a raider admits they're incessantly trolling and concedes that admins have rewarded their trolling for years.

That moment when sarcasm is ignored.

Let me feed out the line I'm sure you all love - If you feel action taken by a player are trolling, file a GHR with the relevant information.

Let me feed out the equally loved line - no one wants to go back to the pre-influence days of judgement calls, percent ejections, and similar horrors. Raiding cannot be entirely effectively distinguished from coups by natives with outside help in any list of rules.
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

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Postby Cora II » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:09 am

Gest wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:"The combined might of DEN and The Black Hawks" = five guys and one [violet]. Really not that impressive but about what we've come to expect from DEN, so congratulations for being true to yourselves, I guess?


Someone's not having a good day. I know! Go to technical and complain. Oh wait that's not working out so good for you guys today. Oh well keep whining I'm sure if you nag the admins to death they'll totally come around.


Funny. I've learned not to expect any favors or mercy from Gest when he is in Command... but it was damn clear (YES! It was, I know for sure) if there would have been defenders active on the fields today, raiders' overall results of the update would be probably totally different then they are now. Defenders, - or Regional officers btw. -, had no part what so ever to what happened out there.

Rarely you can see bigger contrast and disparity between game-side and forum-side defender activity then today. CROM! :clap:
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Postby Pierconium » Mon Oct 12, 2015 4:17 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Cormac Stark wrote:That moment when a raider admits they're incessantly trolling and concedes that admins have rewarded their trolling for years.

That moment when sarcasm is ignored.

Let me feed out the line I'm sure you all love - If you feel action taken by a player are trolling, file a GHR with the relevant information.

Let me feed out the equally loved line - no one wants to go back to the pre-influence days of judgement calls, percent ejections, and similar horrors. Raiding cannot be entirely effectively distinguished from coups by natives with outside help in any list of rules.

I wouldn't mind. Just saying. :)
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Postby Valrifell » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:27 am

Cormac, we get it, Defenders are the purest of pure innocent small and helpless children who can't stand up to those mean ol' privileged lazy raider doo-doo heads because first Admins took away your M16s and gave Raiders RPGs because there's this conspiracy against ever defender.

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Postby Topid » Mon Oct 12, 2015 5:31 am

Valrifell wrote:Cormac, we get it, Defenders are the purest of pure innocent small and helpless children who can't stand up to those mean ol' privileged lazy raider doo-doo heads because first Admins took away your M16s and gave Raiders RPGs because there's this conspiracy against ever defender.

(Oh, and Mall is secretly [V] now)

That straw man would make a great Halloween decoration if you wouldn't mind letting me borrow it when you're finished.

I think Cormac missed the sarcastic quotes, I also did upon first reading.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Mon Oct 12, 2015 9:40 am

Pierconium wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:That moment when sarcasm is ignored.

Let me feed out the line I'm sure you all love - If you feel action taken by a player are trolling, file a GHR with the relevant information.

Let me feed out the equally loved line - no one wants to go back to the pre-influence days of judgement calls, percent ejections, and similar horrors. Raiding cannot be entirely effectively distinguished from coups by natives with outside help in any list of rules.

I wouldn't mind. Just saying. :)

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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

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Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:47 pm

So DEN has decided to be California gurlz now? *chuckle, chuckle*

On a side note, it would have been far funnier if your point would have been Snoop Dog. Just saying...

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Oct 12, 2015 12:51 pm

The Silver Sentinel wrote:So DEN has decided to be California gurlz now? *chuckle, chuckle*

On a side note, it would have been far funnier if your point would have been Snoop Dog. Just saying...

Wait... Gurls or Girls?
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:16 pm

We Are Not the NSA wrote:
The Silver Sentinel wrote:So DEN has decided to be California gurlz now? *chuckle, chuckle*

On a side note, it would have been far funnier if your point would have been Snoop Dog. Just saying...

Wait... Gurls or Girls?

If you had read the side note you would have got the joke.

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Postby We Are Not the NSA » Mon Oct 12, 2015 2:56 pm

The Silver Sentinel wrote:
We Are Not the NSA wrote:Wait... Gurls or Girls?

If you had read the side note you would have got the joke.

I read it. Wasn't snoop dog a member of the beach boys? :p
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Postby Consular » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:28 am

DEN NEWS AGENCY wrote:DEN, defeating defenders and neutralizing natives since 2004

We can conveniently ignore the massive period of nothingness in the middle I guess. And the fact that old DEN and the current TBR rebranding are not the same thing in anything other than name.

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Postby Bounty Bertie » Tue Oct 13, 2015 1:33 am

Consular wrote:We can conveniently ignore the massive period of nothingness in the middle I guess. And the fact that old DEN and the current TBR rebranding are not the same thing in anything other than name.


They've both had founders made DoS ;)

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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:25 am

Consular wrote:
DEN NEWS AGENCY wrote:DEN, defeating defenders and neutralizing natives since 2004

We can conveniently ignore the massive period of nothingness in the middle I guess. And the fact that old DEN and the current TBR rebranding are not the same thing in anything other than name.


Silly New DEN, they're just trying to make TBH's previous Oldest Active Raiders in NS claim troublesome :P
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The Alicorns (Equestria) wrote:Let them stay, no need to badmouth them...From our view a bunch of nations just came in, seized the delegate position, and changed a few superficial things...we play NationStates differently...there's really no reason for us to be butthurt.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8944227
http://www.nationstates.net/page=rmb/postid=8951258

Misley wrote:
Hobbesistan wrote:Don't think I understand the question.
The color or what?..

Jesus, Hobbes, it's 2015. You can't just call someone "the color".

Reploid Productions wrote:Raiders are endlessly creative

How Do I Telegram API?

Omnis delenda est.

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Postby Cormac Stark » Tue Oct 13, 2015 2:40 am

Consular wrote:We can conveniently ignore the massive period of nothingness in the middle I guess. And the fact that old DEN and the current TBR rebranding are not the same thing in anything other than name.

To be fair, most incarnations of DEN have had very little continuity with previous incarnations. For example, the 2012 incarnation was led by raiders who had defected from the UDL (Rawr, Mall). It had some people around who had been in the previous incarnation of DEN, but so does current DEN.

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Postby Cora II » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:53 am

Image
Cimmerian Crom-10KR-Corvus Corax class raider interceptor somewhere in the Tagland Sector's DEN system space

Standard Patrol.

A lonely Merc defended the DEN full scale planetary invasion at California, before starting track and follow intimately a defender de-tagger task force interfering borders of a vast debris concentrations of DEN tagfields. The merc managed intercept hostile tresspassing thrice by supporting unknown, native WA-lifeforms in next DEN systems:

SPACE
The Forgotten Vale
The Third Dominion (block)

A Red Star Fleet's strategic level siege around a moon nazi base of The Greater German Reich was reinforced before returning to the vicinity of DEN main battle formations.

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Postby The Bruce » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:30 pm

Just for clarification: is this the California that was founded by a member of the original DEN and later became a base of operations for the Marijuana Militia? Because it kind of looks like that region...

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Postby Cormac Stark » Wed Oct 14, 2015 10:54 pm

The Bruce wrote:Just for clarification: is this the California that was founded by a member of the original DEN and later became a base of operations for the Marijuana Militia? Because it kind of looks like that region...

If you're just now noticing that the artists formerly known as The Black Riders couldn't care less about raider unity, even when said unity should be applied to the raiders who once bore their current region's name, you really need to visit Gameplay more often. People have been criticizing TBRDEN for not respecting raider unity for two years or so. They don't care because they aren't raiders, they're gnats.
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Postby The Silver Sentinel » Fri Oct 16, 2015 11:16 pm

Consular wrote:
DEN NEWS AGENCY wrote:DEN, defeating defenders and neutralizing natives since 2004

We can conveniently ignore the massive period of nothingness in the middle I guess.

It's possible. Americans are trying to ignore those eight years between Clinton and Obama where a three year old was running the country. 8)

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Postby Drop Your Pants » Sat Oct 17, 2015 3:02 pm

The Bruce wrote:Just for clarification: is this the California that was founded by a member of the original DEN and later became a base of operations for the Marijuana Militia? Because it kind of looks like that region...

I knew there was something about that region which rang bells, cheers Bruce.
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Postby Gest » Sun Oct 18, 2015 12:06 am

The Bruce wrote:Just for clarification: is this the California that was founded by a member of the original DEN and later became a base of operations for the Marijuana Militia? Because it kind of looks like that region...


I dunno, you tell me NS historian. Regale me with tales of the raiders of yore who rode into battle on AOl mammoths.

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PS: No one in raiding has complained about California, so no reason not to occupy it.

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Postby Cora II » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:32 am

It's surely legit Gest. In-game and real life localities shakes hands there, while 50+ (currently) WA-nations (read: Players) are decided to support The Field Marshal's drive for sweet, secure neighborhoods. :P
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Postby Bounty Bertie » Sun Oct 18, 2015 1:50 am

Gest wrote:PS: No one in raiding has complained about California, so no reason not to occupy it.


Maybe because the raider(s) who founded it have had their region and history misappropriated by a group of wannabe TBR 'raiders' who feel the need to piggyback on a decade old organisation's reputation and effort.

I mean, there's been a lot of DEN reboots, but at least they had respect for their forebears, and historical raiders in general.

You can change your skins, but you'll always be TBR, and it shows.

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Postby Knot II » Sun Oct 18, 2015 7:54 am

Bounty Bertie wrote:I mean, there's been a lot of DEN reboots, but at least they had respect for their forebears, and historical raiders in general.

You can change your skins, but you'll always be TBR, and it shows.

Surely members of the old DEN in Ile de France know better than to support the occupation then.

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Postby The Highlander 1 » Sun Oct 18, 2015 10:37 am

Bounty Bertie wrote:I mean, there's been a lot of DEN reboots, but at least they had respect for their forebears, and historical raiders in general.


You guys are funny. One of the reasons there were multiple DEN reboots was due to the in-fighting of Egos. Like every other organisation, DEN had its challenges. Fenda's sounds more like Donald the Chump than anyone else in the game. They cry about Raider unity but have no unity of their own. Rather than speak to their own challenges they attack Raider "unity".

Quote me: There is no Raider Unity! On occasion Raiders align for a period of time but inevitably differences of opinion arise which fragment agreements. What TBR has done is resurrect the essence of DEN. They were able to do this because of the powerful memory of the impact DEN had in its prime. But don't fool yourself; DEN imploded from within with little respect for their forebears. And yet still some members carried on to this day. So ignore the Fenda tripe and Carry On.

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