NationStates

Hallo quick qeustion I have been playing nation states since 2007 anyways how many years IRL has to pass before my nation gets the antiquity for when it was founded?

It won't. Antiquity refers to a founding period before Founding Dates of nations began being recorded - pre-2003 iirc.

Tim Stark wrote:It won't. Antiquity refers to a founding period before Founding Dates of nations began being recorded - pre-2003 iirc.

I don't think that's how it works because a mod by the name of cogitation was founded in 2002 but the antiquity label isn't their.

Gig em Aggies wrote:

Tim Stark wrote:It won't. Antiquity refers to a founding period before Founding Dates of nations began being recorded - pre-2003 iirc.

I don't think that's how it works because a mod by the name of cogitation was founded in 2002 but the antiquity label isn't their.

Basically he or one of the other mods manually entered the birthday field on his nation. I could have done that to put in my March 23, 2003 founding date, but opted not to because I like being Antiquity.

The game didn't start recording founding dates until sometime in the middle of 2003. Some 2002/early 2003 nations asked the mods to manually input their founding dates around the time nation birthdays were first being recorded, which is why you sometimes see really old nations that technically should be shown as Antiquity showing up with a founding date.

Reploid Productions wrote:

Gig em Aggies wrote:I don't think that's how it works because a mod by the name of cogitation was founded in 2002 but the antiquity label isn't their.

Basically he or one of the other mods manually entered the birthday field on his nation. I could have done that to put in my March 23, 2003 founding date, but opted not to because I like being Antiquity.

The game didn't start recording founding dates until sometime in the middle of 2003. Some 2002/early 2003 nations asked the mods to manually input their founding dates around the time nation birthdays were first being recorded, which is why you sometimes see really old nations that technically should be shown as Antiquity showing up with a founding date.

So theirs no way my nation of Gig em Aggies to be labeled antiquity for its founding?

Gig em Aggies wrote:

Reploid Productions wrote:Basically he or one of the other mods manually entered the birthday field on his nation. I could have done that to put in my March 23, 2003 founding date, but opted not to because I like being Antiquity.

The game didn't start recording founding dates until sometime in the middle of 2003. Some 2002/early 2003 nations asked the mods to manually input their founding dates around the time nation birthdays were first being recorded, which is why you sometimes see really old nations that technically should be shown as Antiquity showing up with a founding date.

So theirs no way my nation of Gig em Aggies to be labeled antiquity for its founding?

Right- you founded that nation well after the point the game started recording founding dates.

How hard it would implement counter for every nations, that would count actual days/updates alive and in existence (not CTEd time)? Nation's age doesn't tell much about how long it has been "alive" and population sizes can give only statistical impression (due randomness of daily population growth) of life span of a nation.

If real alive and active age would be displayed in days (or in Updates passed while not CTE'd), that would give much more better picture how dedicated a player has been to login to such particular nation.

So Dogs of War is Antiquity, but his population indicates he isn't as long-lasting as some others with greater ones (and with labelled dates), like Kyrusia. Explanation?

Singaporean Transhumans wrote:So Dogs of War is Antiquity, but his population indicates he isn't as long-lasting as some others with greater ones (and with labelled dates), like Kyrusia. Explanation?

The nation has Ceased to Exist after its original creation.

ADD/EDIT: If created in early Antiquity and kept continuously alive (at least one login in 28 days, or 60 days if set to Vacation mode), Nation's population should be now something 26+ billion or so.

Singaporean Transhumans wrote:So Dogs of War is Antiquity, but his population indicates he isn't as long-lasting as some others with greater ones (and with labelled dates), like Kyrusia. Explanation?

They probably CTEd, and were then resurrected. Population only counts for the days the nation is active and existing on NS.net.

After bringing this up I now have a new game play mechanic
Is goes like so

any nation in active service for more then a set amount of years receives a new banner.

Chart as so
4 years: receives some type of new banner image of what I don't know
5 years: same thing as 4 years but different
6+ years: player receives a banner indicating status as an ancient or antiquity nation w/o changing actual date as I asked in the OP.

Anything 6+ could be an image of the future or the past but in black and white and made to look like a very very old photograph

Names of banners?
4 years: Quadricentennial
5 years: Quincentennial
6+ years: Sexcentenary

That is something you want to suggest in Technical, rather than here.

You can suggest new banners here.

Given the Custom Banners are unlocked by age, though, there's little to stop you adopting custom anniversary markers yourself.

Reploid Productions wrote:

Gig em Aggies wrote:I don't think that's how it works because a mod by the name of cogitation was founded in 2002 but the antiquity label isn't their.

Basically he or one of the other mods manually entered the birthday field on his nation. I could have done that to put in my March 23, 2003 founding date, but opted not to because I like being Antiquity.

The game didn't start recording founding dates until sometime in the middle of 2003. Some 2002/early 2003 nations asked the mods to manually input their founding dates around the time nation birthdays were first being recorded, which is why you sometimes see really old nations that technically should be shown as Antiquity showing up with a founding date.

The earliest founded date (that isn't mod edited) on the forums is Nov 26, 2003, so I'd imagine it started around there. It's not a perfect date because not every nation goes to the forum and gets a forum account, but it's probably pretty close.

Shogun wrote:How hard it would implement counter for every nations, that would count actual days/updates alive and in existence (not CTEd time)? Nation's age doesn't tell much about how long it has been "alive" and population sizes can give only statistical impression (due randomness of daily population growth) of life span of a nation.

If real alive and active age would be displayed in days (or in Updates passed while not CTE'd), that would give much more better picture how dedicated a player has been to login to such particular nation.

The population effectively gives you the live time. I've CTEd a few times, so my pop is below what would have been possible if I'd kept it running.