Sanctum || A return of the beloved

by **RiderSyl** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:32 pm

In my experience, raiders don't give a shit when people complain about their masking on forums.

by **Riftey** » Fri Jun 26, 2015 10:36 pm

That's fine ^.^

They also shouldn't give a ahit about a few endorsements then.

It's not a big deal in the operation. However it does simply state that you treat me with dignity or not have my support at all. That's the message im getting across.

I know my masking won't be changed and I hope they know we won't be involved in a productive capacity in regards to this opperation because of it.

by **Aurum Rider** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:33 am

You can have raider masking when you start showing up at raider activities.
From my knowledge, You haven't shown up to many, if any at all, and not showing up to this one and saying "I'm gonna be a defender because you won't give me masking!" Isn't going to help.
Whatever the case, enjoy your endorsements.

by **Harenhime** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:02 am

Gest- we invited everyone

in fact, EPSA was one of the first militaries deployed. So was sanctum. Sad to see them go.

Rifty- the matter of your mask has been brought up by the group every time you've asked. The difference in masking is which of two unique forums you can view and post in. Looking at your past and activities, we decided each time that you were better suited for the "fenda" permset. I'm disappointed that a name on a forum and the difference in a single thread you can't even view yet has caused relations to sour between an entire region and basically the entirety of raiding- this wasn't a TBH op, it wasn't officially any org's op, it was just a bunch of Raiders and friends getting together to have some fun. I'm Sad to see alol of sanctum will miss out on the RMB chatter for the con as well.

It's funny, too, beciase I was going to bring up a few masks again today, and see about changing them, based on recent events. For example, Neph will likely receive an "attendee" mask after deploying his region (small as it may be), regardless of his forum mask at the time, to this big old party down in TBR. Whatever you think, there are several on the edge, and they were still fluid (though asking again again when circumstances *have not* yet changed isn't likely to encourage that).

by **Riftey** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:25 am

I'm going to admit it was a brash decision influenced by me feeling rejected - That's all i'm going to say at this point. I really hope people can just not - stir - until I post again. Please.

by **Riftey** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:55 am

Well...Here's to do something which I think and I'm sure no one else ever expected...

I was wrong.

I acted in a manner that did not represent our regions views. I acted in a revenge fuelled way. I acted emotionally. I acted carelessly. Above all else I undermined the most important thing I have on this site - My partner.

We have discussed this matter - and We've decided to run this back on.

I'm sorry to Jakker for being a complete asshat over something so petty. I'm sorry to EWS, Luke and everyone else involved in this operation. I'm sorry to the gameplay community for wasting their time with such a trivial matter. I'm sorry Noble for undermining you, treating you as if you are valueless and not appreciating what you've done for me and our community across the past 13 months.

We'll be redeploying immediately with myself included. I understand also if I retain the masking after this irrational conclusion I came to and immature actions I just took.

Again - I am really sorry and hope that people can take this for what it is; A massive mistake on my shoulders. I also hope I don't find this being hung over my head for months to come.

by **RiderSyl** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:43 pm

by **Aurum Rider** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 1:18 pm

You've done everything we asked for and more. I've updated your masking on the Raidercon Forum to Attendee.

by **Trick Shot** » Sat Jun 27, 2015 2:48 pm

by **USHALLNOTPASS** » Mon Jul 06, 2015 7:19 pm

Ridersyl wrote:In my experience, raiders don't give a shit when people complain about their masking on forums.

ikr, I was once a raider myself.

by **Riftey** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:00 pm

Well since all this drama about me being tali came about - I guess I really need to make a post about it.

Sanctum is whatever Noble decides and I won't impinge on that ever. If he wishes to back BoM raids; So be it. I'll do my own thing and the region can do theirs.

Now Yes; I had lots of fun raiding DEN's chat. I mean what isn't fun about telling randoms you are Gest's girlfriend or that this is your swamp? Absoutly nothing! It was great fun. Just as we have seen poll Raiding develop id love to see this grow even further.

The claims from BoM around me - Spamming - their chat is completely ridiculous. I didn't spam at all. Not once! Here have logs~

How did I spam? I mean come one. Cormac's drivel of "I'll get Koth to ban you" is more spammy then me agreeing to not being Rifty. Or not being Tali. Who knows; It's really confusing! For the record there is no WA multiying - I'm not an idiot. Impersonation? Nope. It's just a big ol' bag of fun. Watching everyone grasping for clues is actually really cute.

If I was multying or anything else that broke site rules I think you would see something happen to me. However sadly I am not.

Now this crap of breaking the secret on "Ythpir" has got to be a big laugh. I mean just spell it backwards. As I stated in multiple chats; Multiple chats with randoms I don't know - Ythpir was me and I named it as such in hopes they'd notice and see how silly they were. Regardless the whole Ythpir crap became boring and pointless the moment my charges were dropped.

Cormac since you no longer have Ythpir; Next time you want to have a dig at me just announce the secret I was part of the GDU stuff. Not as if anyone knows about that either!

So where now? I'm treated poorly by some regions for "spamming" their chat with messages which never existed. I'm not accepted by the raider sphere and as such feel indifferent to being disliked further by screwing you guys over a bit. If anything I prefer it this was as I actually feel I deserve the crap now; Opposed to it seemingly coming my way for such shitty reasons of "You never accepted me" or "You overshadowed my region."

I'm an independent. Deal with it.

"We will forsake our regions, we will leave our Mother Lands behind us and become one with this Earth.
We have no home, no philosophy, no ideology, we go where we're needed, fighting not for region, not for Government, but for ourselves.
We need no reason to fight, we fight because we are needed.
We will be the deterrent for those with no other recourse.
We are soldiers without borders, our purpose defined by the Era we live in; we will sometimes have to sell ourselves and services.
If the time demand it, we'll be revolutionaries, criminals, terrorists.
And yes, we may all be headed straight to Hell, but what better place for us than this?
It is our only home.
Our Heaven, and our Hell.
This, is Independence."

I think that's all I want and need to say. Feel free to discuss among yourself what's going on or what other secrets you want to release

Kind Regards,

Riftdania - Prophet Alphonse Silverstorm

by **Tano** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:11 pm

Just as we have seen poll Raiding develop id love to see this grow even further.

Don't compare this bullshit to poll raiding.

by **Riftey** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:13 pm

Tano wrote:
Just as we have seen poll Raiding develop id love to see this grow even further.

Don't compare this bullshit to poll raiding.

Tag Raiding, Stealth Raiding, Poll Raiding and now Skype Raiding :clap:

by **The Sapientia** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:16 pm

Riftey wrote:
Tano wrote:Don't compare this bullshit to poll raiding.

Tag Raiding, Stealth Raiding, Poll Raiding and now Skype Raiding

No, you see, this is different. All these kinds of raiding require some semblance of skill. Less so for poll raiding, but at least Codger made is fun and amusing. This "Skype raiding" is pure idiocy, and you're just reveling in it because you can't get punished for it since the act was done offsite.
Or maybe I'm just rambling with these three hours of sleep.

by **Talidania** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:26 pm

I am confused by the claim of Riftdania "spamming" the BoM chat as to how spamming was percieved out of those few posts I made to answer the questions and such. As I have said had a fun time in DEN and enjoyed my service tis quite disappointing when the community you devloped around kicks you due to biased claims that haven't been thouroughly looked through. Much sad but whatever theres plenty of opportunities in the vast realm of NS. I would gladly still serve DEN <3.

I sometimes think there is a malign force loose in the universe that is the social equivalent of a virus, and it's plastic. It infiltrates everything. It's metastasis. It gets into every single pore of productive life. I mean there won't be anything that isn't made of plastic before long. They'll be paving the roads with plastic before they're done. Out bodies, our skeletons, will be replaced with plastic. I am plastic

- Riftdania

by **Cora II** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:29 pm

Since when Skype started be integral feature of Max Barry's NationStates?

Talidania's contributions in real raiding activity with me doesn't earn critic from my behalf, but I still wonder what was reason spy Skype raid convos he was member for participating the raids? I got no impression there would be some spam-attack-for-fun going on when watching his efforts to elect delegates, which is/will be necessary requirement to call something 'a raid'.

Amazed! :blink:

by **Ever-Wandering Souls** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:35 pm

You wouldn't have been removed if you weren't causing trouble, simply put. Hell, we have the leader of EPSA in our chat - as long as you're chill, you stay. So don't take a snippet of conversation and act like you've done nothing.

by **RiderSyl** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:43 pm

Riftey wrote:Tag Raiding, Stealth Raiding, Poll Raiding and now Skype Raiding

If you're going to call this "Skype Raiding", then you still failed at it.
You never got any authority, never kicked out any "chat natives", or anything that qualifies as a successful raid.

by **Riftey** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:43 pm

Ridersyl wrote:
Riftey wrote:Tag Raiding, Stealth Raiding, Poll Raiding and now Skype Raiding

If you're going to call this "Skype Raiding", then you still failed at it.
You never got any authority, never kicked out any "chat natives", or anything that qualifies as a successful raid.

Damn! D:

Alrightyo - It'll take a bit more practice I guess.

by **Talidania** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:45 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:You wouldn't have been removed if you weren't causing trouble, simply put. Hell, we have the leader of EPSA in our chat - as long as you're chill, you stay. So don't take a snippet of conversation and act like you've done nothing.

How exactly did I cause trouble so to say. All I know is I answered a few questions while the others rambled on about Riftdania. :blink:

by **Riftey** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:46 pm

Talidania wrote:
Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:You wouldn't have been removed if you weren't causing trouble, simply put. Hell, we have the leader of EPSA in our chat - as long as you're chill, you stay. So don't take a snippet of conversation and act like you've done nothing.

How exactly did I cause trouble so to say. All I know is I answered a few questions while the others rambled on about Riftdania.

Also - You guys are evil to me anyway so I don't see why this "be chill" crap is relevant :roll:

by **King Nephmir II** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 7:49 pm

[7/11/2015 2:30:50 PM] Revall: no multi-ing is encouraged on NS
I lol'd at this. I have no idea why, either.

by **We Are Not The ATF** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:13 pm

Talidania wrote: As I have said had a fun time in DEN and enjoyed my service tis quite disappointing when the community you devloped around kicks you due to biased claims that haven't been thouroughly looked through.

What do you mean "biased claims"? We didn't kick you until after you admitted who you were and what you were doing. Sure, we discussed the claims, but you weren't removed until after you spammed the chat with that "Rofty waz 'ere" crap.

by **Ever-Wandering Souls** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:17 pm

We Are Not The ATF wrote:
Talidania wrote: As I have said had a fun time in DEN and enjoyed my service tis quite disappointing when the community you devloped around kicks you due to biased claims that haven't been thouroughly looked through.

What do you mean "biased claims"? We didn't kick you until after you admitted who you were and what you were doing. Sure, we discussed the claims, but you weren't removed until after you spammed the chat with that "Rofty waz 'ere" crap.

^you know, the whole thing about changing the official image and title repeatedly while sending spam messages, which forced them to transfer all personnel to another chat in order to implement settings no longer allowing those to be edited by anyone but Gest, and to end the tradition of leaving links to new chats in old ones due to their misuse in allowing spammers to join?

by **Talidania** » Tue Jul 14, 2015 8:27 pm

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
We Are Not The ATF wrote:What do you mean "biased claims"? We didn't kick you until after you admitted who you were and what you were doing. Sure, we discussed the claims, but you weren't removed until after you spammed the chat with that "Rofty waz 'ere" crap.

^you know, the whole thing about changing the official image and title repeatedly while sending spam messages, which forced them to transfer all personnel to another chat in order to implement settings no longer allowing those to be edited by anyone but Gest, and to end the tradition of leaving links to new chats in old ones due to their misuse in allowing spammers to join?

We Are Not The ATF wrote:
Talidania wrote: As I have said had a fun time in DEN and enjoyed my service tis quite disappointing when the community you devloped around kicks you due to biased claims that haven't been thouroughly looked through.

What do you mean "biased claims"? We didn't kick you until after you admitted who you were and what you were doing. Sure, we discussed the claims, but you weren't removed until after you spammed the chat with that "Rofty waz 'ere" crap.

Sorry a slight misunderstanding,I was refering to the claim that I spammed BoM chat etc. As for the DEN chat I had nothing to do with it. ^_^

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