Protestant Peace Summit

[Archeu-Gilneas]

After the deletion of A&B the Alliance of Protestant Nations has split into many different groups. I now accept a need for coexistence.

Discuss it here.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Maybe if you stop running around shouting conspiracy theories (or insults?) about secularists running their region (what's the major issue here anyways?), you could both just go your own, separate, happy ways?

[Archeu-Gilneas]

Maybe if you stop running around shouting conspiracy theories (or insults?) about secularists running their region (what's the major issue here anyways?), you could both just go your own, separate, happy ways?

Don't try to encourage division in our united regions. We will continue with this.

[RiderSyl]

Who's the 'We'? Do you have a mouse in your pocket, or has this actually been discussed through telegram?

[Archeu-Gilneas]

Who's the 'We'? Do you have a mouse in your pocket, or has this actually been discussed through telegram?

Our regions are going to make peace.

[The State of Deseret]

After the deletion of A&B the Alliance of Protestant Nations has split into many different groups. I now accept a need for coexistence.

Discuss it here.

Why is it such a big deal a protestant region is ran by a secularist. They are okay with it. You can't say a true protestant region is ran by protestants and not secularists either. Secularism is not the end if the world. Without it we'd still be in the medical ages with states and religions arguing for political power. Cooperation between theocrats and secularists shows they can cooperate.

[Archeu-Gilneas]

1. Un-ban each other from our regions
2. Establish embassies with each other
3. Create an interregional alliance
4. Determine where each region stands on various issues
5. Investigate leaders in all regions to see if my assertions that they are secularists actually hold up.

[Aravea]

1. Un-ban each other from our regions
2. Establish embassies with each other
3. Create an interregional alliance
4. Determine where each region stands on various issues
5. Investigate leaders in all regions to see if my assertions that they are secularists actually hold up.

Archeuland it takes more than just the offering of terms to get people to trust that you are actually working towards peace. Thus far your actions and rather unique claims have not given us any inclination to trust any peace proposal you put forward. If you truly wanted to show us that you wish to effect a meaningful peace process, you would cease the attacks upon the leaders of the regions who oppose you. In addition it would also serve to further our trust in you if you would cease with this "secularist invasion" nonsense.

[Archeu-Gilneas]

Yes, hence the creation of a tribunal to investigate the leaders of all Protestant regions.

It would be led by:
Me
Hank
Western-Ukraine
Gilneas
Aravea
Jumalariik
Land of Oasis

[Jumalariik]

Yes, hence the creation of a tribunal to investigate the leaders of all Protestant regions.

It would be led by:
Me
Hank
Western-Ukraine
Gilneas
Aravea
Jumalariik
Land of Oasis

None of your terms are worth while. If this is your terms, a tribunal against us, us unbanning you, with nothing in return, I have no interest in being involved.
The only terms that I personally would accept would be these:
1. Both regions adopt a democratic elders system.
2. Both regions move all members to The Christian Republic
3. We have a military alliance and take other regions.
Any other terms are awful and will not be supported by me.

[Aravea]

Yes, hence the creation of a tribunal to investigate the leaders of all Protestant regions.

It would be led by:
Me
Hank
Western-Ukraine
Gilneas
Aravea
Jumalariik
Land of Oasis

Tell my why is there a need for Gilneas to be on the tribunal? Given his less than impeccable record is he really qualified to be on this hypothetical tribunal? In addition it seems as if this proposal you put forward is more or less dominated by those who are sympathetic to you or your ideals.

[Archeu-Gilneas]

This is a matter of uniting the regions in diplomacy, not individual compromise on doctrinal issues. Our region opposes furry stuff but yours clearly do not. That is no reason for us not to be allied.

I still object to the governance of your region, but I understand - I accept - that peaceable relations and alliance is necessary.

[Jumalariik]

Yes, hence the creation of a tribunal to investigate the leaders of all Protestant regions.

It would be led by:
Me
Hank
Western-Ukraine
Gilneas
Aravea
Jumalariik
Land of Oasis

Tell my why is there a need for Gilneas to be on the tribunal? Given his less than impeccable record is he really qualified to be on this hypothetical tribunal? In addition it seems as if this proposal you put forward is more or less dominated by those who are sympathetic to you or your ideals.

Agreed. What would be better is that each faction can pick 5 negotiators.

[Jumalariik]

None of your terms are worth while. If this is your terms, a tribunal against us, us unbanning you, with nothing in return, I have no interest in being involved.
The only terms that I personally would accept would be these:
1. Both regions adopt a democratic elders system.
2. Both regions move all members to The Christian Republic
3. We have a military alliance and take other regions.
Any other terms are awful and will not be supported by me.

I still get to be Raiding/Defending Warlord(Tactician) right?

Nothing in the governance of our region will change no matter what a&g wants or thinks.

[Rifty]

As a council member of The Christian Republic - I would love to represent us

[Aravea]

Tell my why is there a need for Gilneas to be on the tribunal? Given his less than impeccable record is he really qualified to be on this hypothetical tribunal? In addition it seems as if this proposal you put forward is more or less dominated by those who are sympathetic to you or your ideals.

Agreed. What would be better is that each faction can pick 5 negotiators.

To be honest, the best thing at this point is to drop this tribunal nonsense as all it will do is create further discord. Honestly, all this whole tribunal would boil down to is a glorified witch hunt for supposed secularists. Oh and that is without even mentioning the ever so convenient placement of nations that are known to have ties to Archeuland upon the tribunal.

[Jumalariik]

This is a matter of uniting the regions in diplomacy, not individual compromise on doctrinal issues. Our region opposes furry stuff but yours clearly do not. That is no reason for us not to be allied.

I still object to the governance of your region, but I understand - I accept - that peaceable relations and alliance is necessary.

1. We can do that.
2. There was no idea of compromising.
3. I don't care about furryism as much as you do. The difference between us is that I don't make hatred a fetish.
4. Actually, you have to understand, alliance is not necessary for us. We have members who are furries and we must stand for their interests, they are just as much Christians as you are.
Remember:
http://biblehub.com/john/3-15.htm
Furries can believe, furries can be Christians and go to heaven.

[Jumalariik]

As a council member of The Christian Republic - I would love to represent us

As would I.

We have to vote on a representative.

[Leila Malkal]

As would I.

We have to vote on a representative.

I would't mind being representative if you guys would allow me to.

[Jumalariik]

We have to vote on a representative.

I would't mind being representative if you guys would allow me to.

We would need to vote.

[Rifty]

Agreed. What would be better is that each faction can pick 5 negotiators.

To be honest, the best thing at this point is to drop this tribunal nonsense as all it will do is create further discord. Honestly, all this whole tribunal would boil down to is a glorified witch hunt for supposed secularists. Oh and that is without even mentioning the ever so convenient placement of nations that are known to have ties to Archeuland upon the tribunal.

I ain't religious yet im on it...so...uh...Yeah

[Jumalariik]

To be honest, the best thing at this point is to drop this tribunal nonsense as all it will do is create further discord. Honestly, all this whole tribunal would boil down to is a glorified witch hunt for supposed secularists. Oh and that is without even mentioning the ever so convenient placement of nations that are known to have ties to Archeuland upon the tribunal.

I ain't religious yet im on it...so...uh...Yeah

The tribunal is a figment of Archeulaud's imagination.

[Archeu-Gilneas]

How about we move forward with plans for a Biblical Assembly?

[Archeu-Gilneas]

Yes you may, of course.

I respectfully object to Jumalariik's proposal, however. My region already has a Constitution and a government. Personally I think I speak for the region and my 18 puppets (as well as 10 or 11 real people) when I say that we would prefer to stay as we are. A government change should not be prerequisite for partnership with our counterpart in the old region.

We think that we should instead go for a superficial alliance through the Biblical Assembly, and gradually increase ties over time. As for the tribunal, though I stand by the idea, it is clearly opposed so I will not continue with this plan.

Regardless, I do think it prudent to begin embassy exchanges.

Furthermore, I suggest that we all limit whom we establish embassies with. The purpose of alliances and embassies is defeated by giving them out to whomever asks. In the case of my region, our partnerships are with those we can actually count on, not random people who know little of us.

We could also discuss the Eternal Knights situation, and whether we should partner with them or not. You all know my standpoint on the new Eternal Knights leader (I stand with Nephmir only) so we should take that into account.

[Rifty]

We could also discuss the Eternal Knights situation, and whether we should partner with them or not. You all know my standpoint on the new Eternal Knights leader (I stand with Nephmir only) so we should take that into account.

When Anders took over TEK and then had it taken from him - He came to AoI. He now has it back and we are merging TEK into AoI to make us even larger. No point discussing them when I have full control over what was TEK.

Nephmir works under me, Anders works under me...They all do...Want to work with them then you speak to me alone mate. Why? It'd be my decision

In some summit id like to just represent AoI to watch what arguments spark up