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PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 7:24 pm
by Cora II
Meet the rider wrote:Basicaly this makes all black rider raids hacking and lets not forget your UN multies lol!


The Candy for your Mind

FAQ: How evil riders can raid multiple targets? Is this illegal by the rules, as you cannot have more then one WA member nation?

Cora: You can have as many WA Nations you want as long as there are only one in time. It is not illegal resign and join to WA as many times you like. We R/D gameplayers call it as a "Switch".

NOTE: It is impossible WA Multi if you use same E-mail address for all your WA applications. If you manage do that, report immediately to Technical as in that case something has broken in The Game Code.

Where there are that "UN multies lol"?

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 8:05 pm
by Bankai Kurosaki
Since you did ask... ...

Rex Imperium wrote:ATTENTION ALL ENEMIES OF THE BLACK RIDERS!

Has your nation ever had an encounter with the atrocious raiding region of The Black Riders?

Yes. I've assisted them in numerous raids they've undertaken, despite both their avowed lack of political intent for what they do throughout the NS world, and their overall lack of viable malevolence against the World Assemblist mob-rulers who wish to impose kindergarten sandboxes and hall monitors upon all sentient life.

Rex Imperium wrote:Have you ever had to sit by and watch helplessly as your region was torn apart by these barbaric invaders?

No. I've had to sit by and watch helplessly as they've withdrawn from operations like Anarchy, despite the fact that a concerted, singly unified effort by a force of their degree could successfully demonstrate that against a sufficiently disciplined army, mob-rule weapons like 'liberations' are naught but paper tigers.

Rex Imperium wrote:Have you ever had you and your friends scattered apart from each other and forced to find a new home?

Only on the occasions when the oppressors have banned any of them for exercising their fundamental right (despite what any tinpots might believe and claim) to complete freedom of speech.

Rex Imperium wrote:NO MORE!

REALLY?!

Rex Imperium wrote:Now is your chance to stop The Black Riders and strike back at the monstrosity which has been terrorizing the great game of NationStates!

Strike back at the World Assembly? But The Black Riders have no history of any support at all for that monstrosity.

Rex Imperium wrote:Join the Allied Nations of Helms Deep Defenders, and help put a stop to TBR's raiding forever!

The only reason I'd ever want to 'stop' them is simply to adjust what they do, rather than merely this 'raiding just to raid' stuff that doesn't really inflict enough violence upon the targets that I hate with every scalding beat of my blood-burning heart. Stopping them from raiding at all would approach the idiotic.

Rex Imperium wrote:The ANHDD is a defender region dedicated to stopping raiders from ever destroying a region, and offers it's defense force to any and all regions under threat from The Black Riders and scum like them.

Aha. A pleasure to meet you. I am Kurosaki of the Lone Wolves United, in turn of the Invaders, Authoritarian Anarchist, Ubar of Outlaws, and despiser of every last thing your kind stands for.

Rex Imperium wrote:With a complex system to detect raider targets, and a dedicated defense force willing to stop a raid at all costs, the ANHDD is the ultimate response to raiders like the TBR.

Intriguing. Despite my lack of seeing any such evidence from you or those like you, the whole concept you just named does give me pause. "Detect Raider Targets", end quote: targets, not actual Raiders embedded inside the targets. This demonstrates a fundamental divergence in how you view targeting options, and how those like me do. For you, you're apparently waiting to hear where we might attack, and then get there first, or at least quickly thereafter. For us, anything at all can be an instigator for action, from being cheezed off at some native's arrogant attitude, to wanting to bloody up the otherwise lazy during some off hour, to rolling a D20 to pick which it'll be next, to piously needing to burn a given region to the ground in ritual temple sacrifice.

So, if you've actually come up with a way to read our minds...I question the rationality of introducing it into an online abstract political brinkmanship game. Wall Street or Caesar's Palace, dude.

Rex Imperium wrote:So come and join the Allied Nations of Helms Deep Defenders, and help put an end to the raiders.


...

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...Sure! I'll make a point to check out your region in extensive detail, at the earliest opportunity! Here's hoping we all have an absolute BLAST.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2014 10:28 pm
by Cora II
Image
Photo by Cora, taken during aftermath of Major Update, October 17th

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:07 am
by RiderSyl
I suppose that "raid detection" program didn't work so well, did it? :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:27 am
by Bankai Kurosaki
The ANHDD is henceforth renamed the ANHDDADHDADNHAADDNHDDNA, on the authority of me, myself and I, the tri-unified (body, soul, spirit) founder of practical Authoritarian Anarchism.

All Invaders and Raiders are requested to adjust their lexicon apps accordingly. Thank you.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 5:13 am
by McMasterdonia
You'd think people would realise that TBR just loves the attention and that these threads just encourage it. :roll:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 6:38 am
by Cora II
McMasterdonia wrote:You'd think people would realise that TBR just loves the attention and that these threads just encourage it. :roll:


People won't realize basic facts in this game... In-game. That is why this all here now is possible.

We are "Idiots", "Bullies", "Retards", "People who need measure Dicks", "Rapists", and so on...

But we are also people who can read the rules and people capable also study in practice how the game work...

and we always will build our community from that Basis.

You are not programmed to play!

On behalf of Raiders,
- Cora -

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:47 pm
by Bankai Kurosaki
McMasterdonia wrote:You'd think people would realise that TBR just loves the attention and that these threads just encourage it. :roll:


The same people who make them think that the 'will of the people' has any real meaning, and that direct democracy is a viable form of government. Not even the founding fathers of the United States of America thought that.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 1:53 pm
by Kaqomim
'Direct democracy' in the Nationstates made me an Executive delegate of The Black Isle.

It required some organizing for that democracy, but elections itself were almost instant when the organisation was behind my Delegate nomination. :P

No, we're not sheeps, drones, slaves...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:22 pm
by Bankai Kurosaki
Sheep, plural.

The will of the people is for certain basic 'unalienable' needs that are universal to the species. If those are regularly, and especially abundantly, seen to, four out of five are generally content to be told what to do by the remaining one in the position of authority. This, for instance, is why effective terrorist groups are practically always organized into 'task-oriented cells': literally, 'doing-as-they're-told units-of-people'.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:25 pm
by Nephmir
Kaqomim wrote:'Direct democracy' in the Nationstates made me an Executive delegate of The Black Isle.

It required some organizing for that democracy, but elections itself were almost instant when the organisation was behind my Delegate nomination. :P

No, we're not sheeps, drones, slaves...

Slaves to the update, maybe. Drones, obviously, of the constant raiding machine that it TBR. And the Phoenix Division is most definitely a sheep-based division (half of them probably don't even know what military gameplay is).

Nice try though.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:27 pm
by Toxic Garden
Thx. Lammas in Finnish, Lampaat (Plural).

Now, how we unite these task oriented terrorist cells whom doesn't question the Authority for crashing that same hegemony all of them are against?

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:34 pm
by RiderSyl
Nephmir wrote:Slaves to the update, maybe. Drones, obviously, of the constant raiding machine that it TBR. And the Phoenix Division is most definitely a sheep-based division (half of them probably don't even know what military gameplay is).Nice try though.


1. 'Slaves to the update' - I plead no contest to this. :p
2. 'Drones of the constant raiding machine that it TBR' - Everyone raids for the entertainment, not because they have some mindless obligation to.
3. 'And the Phoenix Division is most definitely a sheep-based division (half of them probably don't even know what military gameplay is).Nice try though' - This is equal to me talking shit about Ancient Empires of the World. Phoenix Division is no longer an active division. But as a former and proud member of that division who certainly does know what military gameplay is: BAAAAAH BAAAAAH MOTHERFUCKER :lol:

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:42 pm
by Mesrane
Blood Wine wrote:
Mesrane wrote:Call me an apathetic fuck, but 75% of the reason I'm on NS is for the RPing. The other 25% is debating. As long as I can continue to do that without interference, I won't give more than half a shit.


Yeah no,you don't got any authority to decide that - NS is what the community wants,and GP is part of that

Decide what, exactly? I'm not trying to decide anything. I'm on NS for the RPing and the debating, and prehaps the occasional economic or foreign affairs interaction. I really don't do much outside of that. So, in all honesty, should I give a shit? I'm sure I'm incorrect on this in some way, but I don't actually see a way TBR hurts or changes P2M.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 2:59 pm
by Nephmir
Ridersyl wrote:
Nephmir wrote:Slaves to the update, maybe. Drones, obviously, of the constant raiding machine that it TBR. And the Phoenix Division is most definitely a sheep-based division (half of them probably don't even know what military gameplay is).Nice try though.


1. 'Slaves to the update' - I plead no contest to this. :p
2. 'Drones of the constant raiding machine that it TBR' - Everyone raids for the entertainment, not because they have some mindless obligation to.
3. 'And the Phoenix Division is most definitely a sheep-based division (half of them probably don't even know what military gameplay is).Nice try though' - This is equal to me talking shit about Ancient Empires of the World. Phoenix Division is no longer an active division. But as a former and proud member of that division who certainly does know what military gameplay is: BAAAAAH BAAAAAH MOTHERFUCKER :lol:

:lol2: fair enough...

Guess it's time for me to upgrade my Intel...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 3:10 pm
by Bankai Kurosaki
Nephmir wrote:Slaves to the update, maybe. Drones, obviously, of the constant raiding machine that it TBR. And the Phoenix Division is most definitely a sheep-based division (half of them probably don't even know what military gameplay is).


No more slaves than are all living creatures to the existential need to feed, and for that matter breathe: without the update, gameplay does not exist. Drones cannot think for themselves, in turn, which is an accusation I would put forth to plenty of Defenders. And as for the predilections of the Black Riders' "Phoenix Division", I wouldn't know: the only "divisions" I currently recognize are assigned Greek letters by ethologists.

Toxic Garden wrote:Thx. Lammas in Finnish, Lampaat (Plural).

Now, how we unite these task oriented terrorist cells whom doesn't question the Authority for crashing that same hegemony all of them are against?


Through the strongest yet paradoxically most-difficult-to-maintain-across-generations bond of unity possible: personal allegiance to exceedingly dynamic individual leaders. Among those who decry the concept, it is often historically known as 'cult[s] of personality', whereas I prefer the term meritocratic totalitarianism. One of the aforementioned fundamental desires/needs of the four-fifths is to be valued and appreciated by some or at least one among the one-fifth. If they are not, then they can easily be subverted to other causes; but if they are, entire cultures have been developed around the results.

Or to massively simplify: few fantasize about being cogs in the machine, while quite a few fantasize about being the hand of the king. You want unity? Inspire.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 4:07 pm
by Nordic States and Territories
Cora II wrote:(Image)
Photo by Cora, taken during aftermath of Major Update, October 17th



Though a bit off topic, how do you make Nationstates have the "dark" look. It's cool.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2014 9:47 pm
by Bankai Kurosaki
Go to the "Settings" link on your left margin, and go near the bottom of the page it takes you to. There should be a "Theme" setting available, and "Dark" is one of the options. And yes, it's cool enough to be the only theme I use.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 2:41 am
by Blood Wine
Mesrane wrote:
Blood Wine wrote:
Yeah no,you don't got any authority to decide that - NS is what the community wants,and GP is part of that

Decide what, exactly? I'm not trying to decide anything. I'm on NS for the RPing and the debating, and prehaps the occasional economic or foreign affairs interaction. I really don't do much outside of that. So, in all honesty, should I give a shit? I'm sure I'm incorrect on this in some way, but I don't actually see a way TBR hurts or changes P2M.


Misread a bit,thought you said "NS is this" rather then "this is why im here"

And this is one of the better attitudes to have;raiding doesn't do much if you don't let it

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:04 am
by Rex Imperium
Cora II wrote:(Image)
Photo by Cora, taken during aftermath of Major Update, October 17th


I just banned them, and am going to put everything back up. I don't quit that easily.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:09 am
by Rex Imperium
Bankai Kurosaki wrote:Since you did ask... ...

Rex Imperium wrote:ATTENTION ALL ENEMIES OF THE BLACK RIDERS!

Has your nation ever had an encounter with the atrocious raiding region of The Black Riders?

Yes. I've assisted them in numerous raids they've undertaken, despite both their avowed lack of political intent for what they do throughout the NS world, and their overall lack of viable malevolence against the World Assemblist mob-rulers who wish to impose kindergarten sandboxes and hall monitors upon all sentient life.

Rex Imperium wrote:Have you ever had to sit by and watch helplessly as your region was torn apart by these barbaric invaders?

No. I've had to sit by and watch helplessly as they've withdrawn from operations like Anarchy, despite the fact that a concerted, singly unified effort by a force of their degree could successfully demonstrate that against a sufficiently disciplined army, mob-rule weapons like 'liberations' are naught but paper tigers.

Rex Imperium wrote:Have you ever had you and your friends scattered apart from each other and forced to find a new home?

Only on the occasions when the oppressors have banned any of them for exercising their fundamental right (despite what any tinpots might believe and claim) to complete freedom of speech.

Rex Imperium wrote:NO MORE!

REALLY?!

Rex Imperium wrote:Now is your chance to stop The Black Riders and strike back at the monstrosity which has been terrorizing the great game of NationStates!

Strike back at the World Assembly? But The Black Riders have no history of any support at all for that monstrosity.

Rex Imperium wrote:Join the Allied Nations of Helms Deep Defenders, and help put a stop to TBR's raiding forever!

The only reason I'd ever want to 'stop' them is simply to adjust what they do, rather than merely this 'raiding just to raid' stuff that doesn't really inflict enough violence upon the targets that I hate with every scalding beat of my blood-burning heart. Stopping them from raiding at all would approach the idiotic.

Rex Imperium wrote:The ANHDD is a defender region dedicated to stopping raiders from ever destroying a region, and offers it's defense force to any and all regions under threat from The Black Riders and scum like them.

Aha. A pleasure to meet you. I am Kurosaki of the Lone Wolves United, in turn of the Invaders, Authoritarian Anarchist, Ubar of Outlaws, and despiser of every last thing your kind stands for.

Rex Imperium wrote:With a complex system to detect raider targets, and a dedicated defense force willing to stop a raid at all costs, the ANHDD is the ultimate response to raiders like the TBR.

Intriguing. Despite my lack of seeing any such evidence from you or those like you, the whole concept you just named does give me pause. "Detect Raider Targets", end quote: targets, not actual Raiders embedded inside the targets. This demonstrates a fundamental divergence in how you view targeting options, and how those like me do. For you, you're apparently waiting to hear where we might attack, and then get there first, or at least quickly thereafter. For us, anything at all can be an instigator for action, from being cheezed off at some native's arrogant attitude, to wanting to bloody up the otherwise lazy during some off hour, to rolling a D20 to pick which it'll be next, to piously needing to burn a given region to the ground in ritual temple sacrifice.

So, if you've actually come up with a way to read our minds...I question the rationality of introducing it into an online abstract political brinkmanship game. Wall Street or Caesar's Palace, dude.

Rex Imperium wrote:So come and join the Allied Nations of Helms Deep Defenders, and help put an end to the raiders.


...

...

...Sure! I'll make a point to check out your region in extensive detail, at the earliest opportunity! Here's hoping we all have an absolute BLAST.


Nice to meet you too. You know, I've always wanted to meet a supreme ass-hole, but haven't had the chance till now. It will be a pleasure working against you, and eventually defeating you.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:15 am
by Bolnoa
The Black Riders have there motives and I have my own. I won't place my region at risk with this mission at all. Even then I will continue to oppose uniting with any region who is either with or against the Black Riders. I am completely neutral about the situation about there conquest and as long as they are own there own field while I myself am also on my own field. As far as we're concerned, they're on the one league as we are on our own.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 5:36 am
by Zylor
What if members of TBR create these regions and forum posts in order to attract attention to them, they got pretty common lately and full of replies. Just saying.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:24 am
by Rex Imperium
Zylor wrote:What if members of TBR create these regions and forum posts in order to attract attention to them, they got pretty common lately and full of replies. Just saying.

I assure you, I am not some foul TBR puppet.

PostPosted: Sat Oct 18, 2014 8:53 am
by Wolfmanne
Rex Imperium wrote:
Zylor wrote:What if members of TBR create these regions and forum posts in order to attract attention to them, they got pretty common lately and full of replies. Just saying.

I assure you, I am not some foul TBR puppet.

It honestly makes a lot more sense than some 7 post upstart trying to establish a defender's organisation despite only being on the NS forums for about 5 days.