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Postby Zenya » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:36 pm

Fixed. Don't ever listen to me.
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Postby Rifty » Sun Dec 21, 2014 10:41 pm

I done did fix mine too
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Postby TCB Central News Agency » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:49 am

The Dear Leader's Christmas Day Address

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Office of the President
Dear Leader Zenny Ariel Winter
December 25th, 2014




My Dear Comrades,


I hope you all are enjoying this wonderful Christmas day! While I am not great at writing speeches, I felt compelled to update everyone within our Republic on the progress we have made on the 100th day since Zennyism was first completed and we began building it into our region. We have truly transformed ourselves during this time, from a Republic faced with an uncertain future and little government activity to a region quickly moving to superpower status. Our strength, energy, and discipline have grown exponentially, with most if not all areas of government developing their organization further and increasing their output in the region.

Under the guiding banner of Zennyism we have made large gains in all areas of development. When I first entered this office on September 1st, our population stood at a meager 130 nations. We have since revolutionized our recruitment tactics with the help of my eldest son & Immigration Minister MSW. We have set up a professional recruitment telegram, Immigration Ministry accounts to use for recruiting, and recently raised near 100,000 telegram stamps that will see us through all Winter. We have an increase of over 280% in the last 100 days to nearly 500 nations, a tremendous amount of growth, from being in the top 90 regions to now the top 20.

Our WA nation rate has remained steady, between 25-30%, with most major regions having similar figures. On October 1st we were 50th in the World Assembly for voting power, and now we stand proudly as 12th, just a few endorsements short of passing even Osiris. On October 13th I began a campaign to encourage WA nations to endorse my Vice President, Delegate and 2nd Son Westnesia. Since then our WA endorsement rate has gone from a miniscule 27.5% to an above-average 66.4%.

The People's Revolutionary Armed Forces has, as most of you all know, taken a large focus under my administration. I remember the months when it was only Comrade Kachtaran and I conducting one tag raid an update. To see us now with over 32 members makes me so proud of the work we are doing. Now being able to contribute 20 reinforcements to holds, take multiple regions an update, get nearly ten updaters and working alongside our strong friends across the globe, we are truly following the great principles laid out within Zennyism. Without a People's Armed Forces, the people have nothing and would be doomed to the halls of history. It is through our military might that we protect the sovereignty of our Republic and advance onto the world stage as a force for revolutionary action.

As we move into our 2nd year, we must never forget what we have done. We must educate the new generation on our struggles and the solutions we implemented to overcome them. They must be true Zennyist revolutionaries, carrying on our cause of independence & a military-first policy. For if the people forget what we have done, then we have done nothing. Especially on December 29th on Foundation Day, take the time to think about how far we come and everything we have accomplished by being a unified region under Zennyism. I swear to you, my dear comrades that I hold close to my heart, that we can and will achieve much more. I have not and will not rest until the people live in a paradise. I will make flowers bloom from a rock if it is their will. I am in love with the people, and I can only hope that these feelings are mutual, for am I nothing without the love and support of all of you. You are my friends, my comrades, my colleagues, my source of inspiration & will power. Together, we are unstoppable.

Thank you for your time.

Long Live The Republic!


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The Dear Leader, President Zenny
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Postby Rifty » Thu Dec 25, 2014 7:06 am

Very impressive... o.o

Forward with the only communist region I like....ahaha....Doing some amazing thing; keep it up ;D
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Postby Solorni » Thu Dec 25, 2014 9:57 am

You have done amazingly Zenny; I don't think there is a single region founded in the current era of recruitment that has had the success of The Communist Bloc. Big kudos to you, your friends and your region.
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Postby Applebania » Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:00 am

Solorni wrote:I don't think there is a single region founded in the current era of recruitment that has had the success of The Communist Bloc.

Wintreath got big. Really big.
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Postby Rifty » Thu Dec 25, 2014 10:09 am

I know I know - tooting my own horn~

CoF got to 330 citizens in the space of 3 months. AoI has 100 WA nations inside the region....plus a large militaryy which would move that number closer to 140. Just means less puppets. :p

How many Wa Nations does TCB have anyway? O.o
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Postby Zenya » Thu Dec 25, 2014 4:44 pm

Rifty wrote:Very impressive... o.o

Forward with the only communist region I like....ahaha....Doing some amazing thing; keep it up ;D


Well to be fair you're thus far the only imperialist I probably haven't ranted against at some point xD <3 Being polite goes a very long way in my book since its a rare trait among world leaders unless they're trying to get something from you :D

Solorni wrote:You have done amazingly Zenny; I don't think there is a single region founded in the current era of recruitment that has had the success of The Communist Bloc. Big kudos to you, your friends and your region.


Raaaaaaaach everything you say to me is so good for propaganda <3 :kiss:

Rifty wrote:I know I know - tooting my own horn~

CoF got to 330 citizens in the space of 3 months. AoI has 100 WA nations inside the region....plus a large militaryy which would move that number closer to 140. Just means less puppets. :p

How many Wa Nations does TCB have anyway? O.o


Just checked, like I said in the letter, weve stayed steady with a 25-30% WA rate like most large UCR's that I've checked (http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/default.aspx really good site, tons of tools to keep track of stuff) and we currently have about 130 WA's in the region, but counting all soldiers with WA's outside, its just about 150 I believe, so not too awful ^.^
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Postby Rifty » Thu Dec 25, 2014 5:48 pm

Zenya wrote:
Rifty wrote:Very impressive... o.o

Forward with the only communist region I like....ahaha....Doing some amazing thing; keep it up ;D


Well to be fair you're thus far the only imperialist I probably haven't ranted against at some point xD <3 Being polite goes a very long way in my book since its a rare trait among world leaders unless they're trying to get something from you :D

Solorni wrote:You have done amazingly Zenny; I don't think there is a single region founded in the current era of recruitment that has had the success of The Communist Bloc. Big kudos to you, your friends and your region.


Raaaaaaaach everything you say to me is so good for propaganda <3 :kiss:

Rifty wrote:I know I know - tooting my own horn~

CoF got to 330 citizens in the space of 3 months. AoI has 100 WA nations inside the region....plus a large militaryy which would move that number closer to 140. Just means less puppets. :p

How many Wa Nations does TCB have anyway? O.o


Just checked, like I said in the letter, weve stayed steady with a 25-30% WA rate like most large UCR's that I've checked (http://nsdossier.texasregion.net/default.aspx really good site, tons of tools to keep track of stuff) and we currently have about 130 WA's in the region, but counting all soldiers with WA's outside, its just about 150 I believe, so not too awful ^.^

To be fair - That first telegram you got from me were I was polite was me just trying not to have to reclaim that region myself; Too much drama. The outcome from it was suprising though - Was ready to have to get involved that update and then BAM. You were all good with it. xD

http://www.thenorthpacific.org/world_wa_counts.html?100

I use that one - Some guy months ago made it after me begging.


# Region WA Nations

1 the_north_pacific 691
2 10000_islands 371
3 the_south_pacific 365
4 the_west_pacific 343
5 the_rejected_realms 337
6 the_pacific 334
7 the_east_pacific 332
8 europeia 259
9 lazarus 211
10 balder 157
11 historia 153
12 europe 137
13 osiris 135
14 capitalist_paradise 130
15 anne_frank 128
16 the_communist_bloc 126
17 democratic_socialist_assembly 104
18 the_association_of_imperialism 97
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Postby New Brussels » Thu Dec 25, 2014 6:03 pm

Actually extremely impressed with the way this region is being run. Who knows, I might even drop a puppet by to stay :p
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Postby Zenya » Fri Dec 26, 2014 10:49 am

New Brussels wrote:Actually extremely impressed with the way this region is being run. Who knows, I might even drop a puppet by to stay :p


Thanks! We've worked very hard :hug:

Rifty wrote:To be fair - That first telegram you got from me were I was polite was me just trying not to have to reclaim that region myself; Too much drama. The outcome from it was suprising though - Was ready to have to get involved that update and then BAM. You were all good with it. xD


I'm not in the business of pissing people off x) If people were simply nice so much needless conflict could be avoided. Typically I get "I WILL DESTROY YOU IF YOU DON'T [insert simple demand that could be accomplished with a few clicks]!!!!!!!!" So it was a little refreshing to hear something different x)
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Postby TCB Central News Agency » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:52 am

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News From The Bloc!
Notable headlines taken directly from local TCB Central News Agency coverage, December 21st to January 4th.


  • January 4th ~ Our Dear Comrade President Zenny has appointed Comrade Togeria (Akatsukizad on the regional forum) as Minister of Culture in her administration. This comes after the Great General announced the formation of the post on December 21st. Comrade Togeria is long time member of the region, being recently elected to the Assembly Council of the PDA. Togeria announced his appointment stating "My job is simple make sure you dudes have a good time, and promote regional culture and tranquility. I intend to do this by focusing some, but not all RPs, at least at the start on the forum, making games that bring the region together, and creating events that can give us memorable moments." We all wish him much luck in his post.


  • January 4th ~ TCB Central Television has created a new song for your enjoyment and the promotion of regional culture.
    "Our Leader Zenny!" - Click Here!


  • January 4th ~ The Sun of the Great Zennyist Idea President Zenny doubled down on her recent resolution of peace and tolerance between our Republic and other Leftist regions during questions regarding foreign policy on the Regional Message Board. The Great Leader stated that "If they can simply tolerate our tolerance then really I see that as a big step in the right direction. I think we can accomplish a lot more united and be able to fight our real enemies like the Nazis and other fascist groups, but I'm very comfortable with the current distance we have at this time, however I am currently looking into ways to continue our olive branch policy and reach out to these people to bridge this further bridge the gap." Following the principles set in Zennyism, the Dear Leader has continued her push for empathy and equality among sovereign regions, reaching out to many within the Leftist sphere including The Red Fleet, Eurasian Socialist Union, Das Kommune and others. In this, the Era of Zennyism, we will accomplish peace for all future generations of our great Republic. With hard work and continued ideological loyalty to our Great Leader, their experience within our region will be of an even higher quality than our own!


  • January 2nd (World News) ~ As our Great Leader advances our cause across the world, President Zenny has been invited to the Kingdom of Balder for an official state visit. This is another great step forward in TCB-Balder relations as we strengthen our ties with this superpower with over 3,000 resident nations and a thriving community under the reign of Queen Solorni.


  • January 2nd (Featured Zennyist Art) ~
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  • December 29th ~ Today our Republic celebrates it's 1st birthday! 364 days ago, the Dear Founder, the Great General, and Comrades Skydiveria, Russian Communist Federation, and Ukotrium founded the 1st TCB Republic. We must hold our heads high at the many great things we have done since! We have gone where no other socialist region has, and it is thanks to the people, their hard work, and their loyalty to the Dear Leader! Our Republic is and shall always be an exceptional region under the guiding light of Zennyism!


  • December 29th ~ Our Republic broke the 500 nation mark on December 27th. This is another great success for our whole region, where only 100 days ago we were below even 200. The rate of growth is reported to be near 300% since the Dear Leader President Zenny became President. This comes after a massive recruitment stamp drive, gathering nearly $100 in donations from our community to keep our recruitment running through all of Winter.


  • December 29th ~ The TCB Central News Agency has published Great Leader Zenny's Christmas Address to the region on her progress in the last 100 days of her administration. The speech can be found here: http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=346039


  • December 24th ~ Christmas, December 25th, will mark the 100th day of Zennyism in effect without our Republic. As we celebrate our 1 year since establishment (December 29th), we should also celebrate the miracle of the great revolutionary ideology of Zennyism. Our population has tripled as we move near to 500, from the top 100 regions to the top 20. Our regional military has more than quadrupled in size and is now a major force on the world stage. We have opened up as a democratic society, with a bill of rights and judicial branch. We have revolutionized our recruitment system and raised nearly 100,000 stamps to see us through Winter, something nearly no region can accomplish. With our Dear Comrade President Zenny leading us forward under the banner of Zennyism we can any problem, overcome any struggle, and be united under the loving care of our General, raising us to be the next strong generation of Zennyist revolutionaries pushing our great Republic forward. Long live our Republic! Long live our Dear Leader!


  • December 24th ~ TCB Central Television has produced another grand song: "Let This Be The Era Of Sunshine!


  • December 21st ~ The Guide of the Zennyist Revolution President Zenny announced a series of decisions in her office this evening. The Dear Leader has appointed Comrade Aristarkhov as Chief Justice of the People's Court. A Cabinet shuffle has been made, removing Lentrotka from the Information Ministry to allow him to focus on Chairing the People's Democratic Assembly. Comrade Tony Benn has been moved from Foreign Affairs to Information. Lastly, as apart of her new powers granted via amendments to the Constitution, the Great Leader has established the Ministry of Culture which will be managing regional events to keep our regional pride and culture thriving via activities in festivals and RPs.
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Postby Misley » Sun Jan 04, 2015 9:27 am

It's always interesting to find out that you've been reached out to by reading propaganda saying so.

The Red Fleet hasn't been contacted unless, of course, you're referring to the messages exchanged when you first "distanced" yourselves from Libertatem and company (although you still have a dispatch written by Libertatem's current president pinned to your region, so we can see how much "distance" you've put between TCB and Lib), and not, as this propaganda suggests, after you "doubled down" on developing "peace and tolerance" between TCB and the NS Left.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:03 am

The NationStates left would be better off keeping its distance from and continuing to be wary of a "communist" region whose Founder is from invader, imperialist, and independent regions. Anti-fascism isn't all socialism is about; it is also anti-imperialist. I've seen no indication that TCB is anything but another imperialist region, just dressed in red.

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Postby Misley » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:20 am

Socialism is also anti-capitalist, and the fact that TCB continues to hold CAPS high in their embassy list as a trophy, allows Libertatem puppets to remain in their region, and have taken no substantive actions toward working with leftists beyond joining the Anne Frank liberation (as did most non-fascist militaries of any importance, so even that isn't very substantive) makes it very clear that TCB is "Communist" in name only.

TCB is a popular UCR at the moment, but they're hardly a communist region, and no one in the left is fooled by the name.
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Postby Zenya » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:52 am

Misley wrote:It's always interesting to find out that you've been reached out to by reading propaganda saying so.

The Red Fleet hasn't been contacted unless, of course, you're referring to the messages exchanged when you first "distanced" yourselves from Libertatem and company (although you still have a dispatch written by Libertatem's current president pinned to your region, so we can see how much "distance" you've put between TCB and Lib), and not, as this propaganda suggests, after you "doubled down" on developing "peace and tolerance" between TCB and the NS Left.


No, I contacted you specifically on cooperating with you and you stated that TRF would never work with us. And then days later you personally came to me requesting soldiers for Anne Frank (but by then we had already been approached by General NES for the operation).

Misley wrote:Socialism is also anti-capitalist, and the fact that TCB continues to hold CAPS high in their embassy list as a trophy, allows Libertatem puppets to remain in their region, and have taken no substantive actions toward working with leftists beyond joining the Anne Frank liberation (as did most non-fascist militaries of any importance, so even that isn't very substantive) makes it very clear that TCB is "Communist" in name only.

TCB is a popular UCR at the moment, but they're hardly a communist region, and no one in the left is fooled by the name.


Actually Misley, you know absolutely nothing about us or our region. And I think you'll be quite surprised at the progress I've been making in the last 2 weeks on TCB-Leftist relations. I enforce everything I put my name on, and I am committed to our resolution. We have quite a few things in the works.
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Postby Zenya » Sun Jan 04, 2015 11:54 am

Cormac Stark wrote:The NationStates left would be better off keeping its distance from and continuing to be wary of a "communist" region whose Founder is from invader, imperialist, and independent regions. Anti-fascism isn't all socialism is about; it is also anti-imperialist. I've seen no indication that TCB is anything but another imperialist region, just dressed in red.


Cormac, do you even know who our Founder is? :P Lol, you're just talking shit about me, not even caring enough to look and see that I didn't found TCB xD NICE!
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Postby Misley » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:05 pm

Zenya wrote:No, I contacted you specifically on cooperating with you and you stated that TRF would never work with us. And then days later you personally came to me requesting soldiers for Anne Frank (but by then we had already been approached by General NES for the operation).

So you're putting out propaganda in January saying that you've reached out to The Red Fleet a week before Christmas? I don't get it.

Let's be very clear about what was said. You offered to support Red Fleet operations, to which I replied, "You can choose to pledge troops to TRF-led missions all you want, but until your motives are ascertained and you've gained a level of trust that will take more than closing embassies with Libertatem and posting a new dispatch, you can't expect to be informed about high-sensitivity operations."

I also posted to The Internationale's RMB, saying "I will never invite TCB soldiers along on a Red Fleet operation because they have cooperated with our enemy, and there is no guarantee then that they will not cooperate with the fash. If they were serious about divorcing themselves from Libertatem and REATO, as you say, they would immediately ban all Libertatemite puppets from their region, get rid of Conservative Idealism's ridiculously naive dispatch from their pinned posts, and commit themselves to a long period of showing their resolve by carrying out their own military operations against fascist and REATO targets."

I never invited you to a Red Fleet operation. You know that Anne Frank was a broad coalition of groups that will likely never work together again (UDL and Antifa, for example) and that we needed every single endorsement that came along on that last update. By the time I sent you a message, the cat was out of the bag with AF and I figured I'd see how serious you were about your goal to reconcile with the left.

You've showed your resolve to carry out military operations against fascist targets, but you continue to allow Libertatem puppets to stay in your region (can't dip below that precious 500, I'm sure) and you've still got Condealism's incredibly dewy-eyed dispatch pinned to your WFE.

Zenya wrote:Actually Misley, you know absolutely nothing about us or our region. And I think you'll be quite surprised at the progress I've been making in the last 2 weeks on TCB-Leftist relations. I enforce everything I put my name on, and I am committed to our resolution. We have quite a few things in the works.


I know plenty about your region. You're doing a great job at ingratiating yourself with "big names" in NS's GCRs and Gameplay, which is fine, but don't pretend that you have any sort of communist principles driving TCB or that TCB is a serious communist region.
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Postby Zenya » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:16 pm

Misley wrote:I never invited you to a Red Fleet operation. You know that Anne Frank was a broad coalition of groups that will likely never work together again (UDL and Antifa, for example) and that we needed every single endorsement that came along on that last update. By the time I sent you a message, the cat was out of the bag with AF and I figured I'd see how serious you were about your goal to reconcile with the left.


Well at the time it seemed as if you wanted it both ways, to insult us and refuse our help, only to then come asking me if we could help you out. Sorry if thats not accurate, but the timing really made you look bad in my eyes.

Misley wrote:You've showed your resolve to carry out military operations against fascist targets, but you continue to allow Libertatem puppets to stay in your region (can't dip below that precious 500, I'm sure) and you've still got Condealism's incredibly dewy-eyed dispatch pinned to your WFE.


You keep asking me to do things that I am CONSTITUTIONALLY not allowed to bloody do, Misley. This isnt The Internationale or North Korea, I can't just toss people out on a whim. We have a judicial branch that deals with criminal offences and the only power the Constitution gives me on ejections is this:

Constitution of The Communist Bloc wrote:3b. Any resident nation that posts on the forum or RMB material or speech that is considered hateful, prejudiced, or libelous by the Head of State or President may be ejected and banned at any time.


We are a Republic. We have laws that I am not above and it is my job as President to not only enforce but defend them to the best of my ability. Are you requesting I just eject a certain group of people because people in a region 1/5th of our size doesn't like them? That is not how Republicanism works. We have wide liberties and freedoms and very specific laws that we have to follow. I cannot pick and choose.

Misley wrote:I know plenty about your region. You're doing a great job at ingratiating yourself with "big names" in NS's GCRs and Gameplay, which is fine, but don't pretend that you have any sort of communist principles driving TCB or that TCB is a serious communist region.


TCB is and always has been a socialist/communist region. Us not conforming to your specific views does not change this fact.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:23 pm

Zenya wrote:Cormac, do you even know who our Founder is? :P Lol, you're just talking shit about me, not even caring enough to look and see that I didn't found TCB xD NICE!

Okay, correction, you're completely in charge of the region. The point still stands.

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Postby Zenya » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:26 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:
Zenya wrote:Cormac, do you even know who our Founder is? :P Lol, you're just talking shit about me, not even caring enough to look and see that I didn't found TCB xD NICE!

Okay, correction, you're completely in charge of the region. The point still stands.


Actually no, you've actually (as I pointed out) never even taken a look at our region. If you did, you'd realize we have a very good setup with very strict limitations on Presidential power, a very diverse region with people from all sides of the spectrum, an active legislative and judicial branch with checks and balances on one another, and a very loud and active opposition. You're simply wrong and you're upset that I pointed it out.
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Postby Misley » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:33 pm

Zenya wrote:
Misley wrote:I never invited you to a Red Fleet operation. You know that Anne Frank was a broad coalition of groups that will likely never work together again (UDL and Antifa, for example) and that we needed every single endorsement that came along on that last update. By the time I sent you a message, the cat was out of the bag with AF and I figured I'd see how serious you were about your goal to reconcile with the left.

Well at the time it seemed as if you wanted it both ways, to insult us and refuse our help, only to then come asking me if we could help you out. Sorry if thats not accurate, but the timing really made you look bad in my eyes.

It's not accurate. I can't control the timing of fash occupations, so it's nothing more than coincidence.

Zenya wrote:
Misley wrote:You've showed your resolve to carry out military operations against fascist targets, but you continue to allow Libertatem puppets to stay in your region (can't dip below that precious 500, I'm sure) and you've still got Condealism's incredibly dewy-eyed dispatch pinned to your WFE.

You keep asking me to do things that I am CONSTITUTIONALLY not allowed to bloody do, Misley. This isnt The Internationale or North Korea, I can't just toss people out on a whim. We have a judicial branch that deals with criminal offences and the only power the Constitution gives me on ejections is this:

Does your constitution forbid you from removing your trophy-embassy with CAPS, or from removing Condealism's moronic dispatch? Or are you just going to ignore those because you don't have a convenient "I'm not above the law" answer? Also, nice dig at TI and NK, but we don't "toss people out on a whim" in either region. I can't speak for North Korea, but The Internationale very simply doesn't give fascists or capitalists a platform. They're more than welcome to go to fascist or capitalist regions. Or TCB, apparently.

Zenya wrote:We are a Republic. We have laws that I am not above and it is my job as President to not only enforce but defend them to the best of my ability. Are you requesting I just eject a certain group of people because people in a region 1/5th of our size doesn't like them? That is not how Republicanism works. We have wide liberties and freedoms and very specific laws that we have to follow. I cannot pick and choose.

Misley wrote:I know plenty about your region. You're doing a great job at ingratiating yourself with "big names" in NS's GCRs and Gameplay, which is fine, but don't pretend that you have any sort of communist principles driving TCB or that TCB is a serious communist region.


TCB is and always has been a socialist/communist region. Us not conforming to your specific views does not change this fact.


Again, another nice dig at TI, but I'm not interested in getting into a pissing contest over your region's dick length population size. (Besides, unless you're oddly referring to NK's population in a conversation with me, TI is not "1/5" your size.) I don't particularly care how big TCB gets -- that's not something I'm jealous of. The Internationale has a large broadly leftist community, and we stand in solidarity with our comrades on the left. It's great that you've created a republic with wide liberties and freedoms, but you've based those liberties and freedoms in liberalism, not in socialism. That's why the Left is saying you're not communist or socialist. It's not that you don't subscribe to the specific strain of leftism that we do (if that was the issue, you'd be getting different stories from TI, which is primarily anarchist, and NK, which is primarily Marxist-Leninist) -- it's that, as a region, TCB doesn't subscribe to socialism in its most basic forms. You might, and members of your region might, but TCB as a region is not communist. That's as obvious to any leftist as the fact that young Stalin was gorgeous.
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Postby Cormac Stark » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:40 pm

Zenya wrote:Actually no, you've actually (as I pointed out) never even taken a look at our region. If you did, you'd realize we have a very good setup with very strict limitations on Presidential power, a very diverse region with people from all sides of the spectrum, an active legislative and judicial branch with checks and balances on one another, and a very loud and active opposition. You're simply wrong and you're upset that I pointed it out.

You're nitpicking. Obviously, I'm referring to the region's foreign and military policies, and it's pretty clear that you are in fact in charge of them. I don't care if you have separation of powers, checks and balances, etc. Good for you, but that isn't the nature of the point I'm making. I'm not here to criticize your government or how it's structured, I'm criticizing the fact that you are driving external policy, and noting that leftist regions are right to keep their distance while that's the case. You are an imperialist dressed in red.

The proof is in the fact that you're working with Libertatem and The Communist Bloc has been engaging in raids not against the enemies of socialism, but against socialist regions. Other than the trappings of socialism, there is nothing particularly leftist about this region from the perspective of an outsider watching its external affairs.

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Postby Misley » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:43 pm

Cormac Stark wrote:You're nitpicking. Obviously, I'm referring to the region's foreign and military policies, and it's pretty clear that you are in fact in charge of them. I don't care if you have separation of powers, checks and balances, etc. Good for you, but that isn't the nature of the point I'm making. I'm not here to criticize your government or how it's structured, I'm criticizing the fact that you are driving external policy, and noting that leftist regions are right to keep their distance while that's the case. You are an imperialist dressed in red.

The proof is in the fact that you're working with Libertatem and The Communist Bloc has been engaging in raids not against the enemies of socialism, but against socialist regions. Other than the trappings of socialism, there is nothing particularly leftist about this region from the perspective of an outsider watching its external affairs.

Even the "trappings" of socialism that they use are window dressings rooted in offensive anti-communist propaganda about cults of personality ("dear leader", etc.) that don't exist in any of the leftist regions in NS. Not even North Korea, where I imagine most people would expect such titles and personal pomposity, uses anything of the sort.
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Postby Zenya » Sun Jan 04, 2015 12:52 pm

Misley wrote:Does your constitution forbid you from removing your trophy-embassy with CAPS, or from removing Condealism's moronic dispatch? Or are you just going to ignore those because you don't have a convenient "I'm not above the law" answer? Also, nice dig at TI and NK, but we don't "toss people out on a whim" in either region. I can't speak for North Korea, but The Internationale very simply doesn't give fascists or capitalists a platform. They're more than welcome to go to fascist or capitalist regions. Or TCB, apparently.


So that is your argument? We forgot to close embassies with CAPS and we pinned a dispatch that said nice things about us? Lol. Solid, Misley. I was already planning on letting our WA Delegate know that I'd like it removed, but if these are the last of your silly demands, may I assure you, they were already in the works and are so insignificant I'm surprised you're using them as ammo. Is this all you have to offer to attack us? Yet in North Korea, V-Ming banned all Pro-TCB speech and said anyone saying anything positive about our resolution would be instantly banned. And nobody cares, they'd rather go on babbling about how awful it is that we have free speech (even though as I just posted, we have very clear anti-hate speech laws that I enforce). This is a case of people literally hating us for our freedom :/

Misley wrote:I know plenty about your region. You're doing a great job at ingratiating yourself with "big names" in NS's GCRs and Gameplay, which is fine, but don't pretend that you have any sort of communist principles driving TCB or that TCB is a serious communist region.


Well I am not a communist. I am a Democratic Socialist and TCB is more so (in my opinion) a socialist republic, which is what I have claimed for a long time. I did not choose our name, but we are mainly inhabited by Communists/Socialist by well over 85-90%, so I think it sticks pretty well.

Misley wrote:Again, another nice dig at TI, but I'm not interested in getting into a pissing contest over your region's dick length population size. (Besides, unless you're oddly referring to NK's population in a conversation with me, TI is not "1/5" your size.) I don't particularly care how big TCB gets -- that's not something I'm jealous of. The Internationale has a large broadly leftist community, and we stand in solidarity with our comrades on the left. It's great that you've created a republic with wide liberties and freedoms, but you've based those liberties and freedoms in liberalism, not in socialism. That's why the Left is saying you're not communist or socialist. It's not that you don't subscribe to the specific strain of leftism that we do (if that was the issue, you'd be getting different stories from TI, which is primarily anarchist, and NK, which is primarily Marxist-Leninist) -- it's that, as a region, TCB doesn't subscribe to socialism in its most basic forms. You might, and members of your region might, but TCB as a region is not communist. That's as obvious to any leftist as the fact that young Stalin was gorgeous.


I'm quite sick of this idea that Democracy and Liberalism cannot exist in socialism or communism. I reject that and so do many others. Your personal definition of leftism, socialism, or communism is yours alone and many people would disagree with you. We can have liberties and be socialist and leftist. We can hold free and open elections and be socialist and leftist. We can give our citizens basic rights and still be socialist and leftist.
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