Top 10 most historically significant regions/orgs? [Split]

[Applebania]

Top 10 most historically significant regions/organisations?

(I'm predicting seeing Meritocracy, Equilism, ADN, and Gatesville on here.)

[Mekhet]

Top 10 most historically significant regions/organisations?

(I'm predicting seeing Meritocracy, Equilism, ADN, and Gatesville on here.)

Around which era of time? Given in the existence of NS, there are many.

[Applebania]

How significant was Corporate Conservative?

[Asquithania]

How significant was Corporate Conservative?

Depends who you talk to

[Unibot III]

Top 10 most historically significant regions/organisations?

(I'm predicting seeing Meritocracy, Equilism, ADN, and Gatesville on here.)

NPO
ADN
The Meritocracy
RLA
UDL
DEN
UIAF
ACC
The Empire
TRR / RRA

That'd be my list over the past twelve years.

[Todd McCloud]

Top 10 most historically significant regions/organisations?

(I'm predicting seeing Meritocracy, Equilism, ADN, and Gatesville on here.)

NPO
ADN
The Meritocracy
RLA
UDL
DEN
UIAF
ACC
The Empire
TRR / RRA

That'd be my list over the past twelve years.

Gatesville should be on that list somewhere.

[Tim-Opolis]

Top 10 most historically significant regions/organisations?

(I'm predicting seeing Meritocracy, Equilism, ADN, and Gatesville on here.)

NPO
ADN
The Meritocracy
RLA
UDL
DEN
UIAF
ACC
The Empire
TRR / RRA

That'd be my list over the past twelve years.

Really, Unibot? Is your ego so inflated that you think the UDL is one of the Top 12 Organizations that has ever existed in NS? You're leaving out quite a bit of organizations that did a lot more than that. TITO, FRA, the Farkers, Gatesville, and others come to mind. All of them more influential that UDL, or UIAF for that matter.

[Unibot III]

I don't think Gatesville was nearly as important as it considered itself. TITO has been too isolationist to have had an impact on gameplay to the same extent as other nominees. FRA would be a decent choice but I think they would be competing with The Meritocracy or DEN.

I believe if we're looking over the grand scheme of twelve years, the UDL were the drivers of Gameplay between 2011-2013 and UIAF have been extremely important to geopolitics since its creation.

FRA played a crucial role during the void between the slow decline of the RLA and the rise of the UDL. This was a quieter period in NationStates, but still a span of time where they were prominent.

[Todd McCloud]

I don't think Gatesville was nearly as important as it considered itself. TITO has been too isolationist to have had an impact on gameplay to the same extent as other nominees. FRA would be a decent choice but I think they would be competing with The Meritocracy or DEN.

You weren't around between 2005-2007. Gateville was in many ways behind nearly all coup attempts, vote-stacking in the WA, and hosted conferences on the state of the game.


Also Equilism was a very important region too. Many past feeder delegates and politicians came from EQ.

[Unibot III]

I don't think Gatesville was nearly as important as it considered itself. TITO has been too isolationist to have had an impact on gameplay to the same extent as other nominees. FRA would be a decent choice but I think they would be competing with The Meritocracy or DEN.

You weren't around between 2005-2007. Gateville was in many ways behind nearly all coup attempts, vote-stacking in the WA, and hosted conferences on the state of the game.

Gatesville's vote stacking is not as influential as history remembers it - most GA Authors made a joke of it. Likewise, its role behind most coups was not as central as you claim. They played a role in them, but they were not normally the driving players behind the geopolitics - for that I would look to The NPO, The Empire or UIAF.

Equilism's players under different hats (covered by this list), I would argue, had more of an impact than Equilism itself. This isn't to say Equilism or Gatesville weren't important, but over the past twelve years never played a vitally important role in driving Gameplay to the same extent as the other regions/organizations on this list.

[Unibot III]

If anything I would probably remove The Meritocracy or DEN off for The Farkers - who played a large role in 2003 until their decline.

[Mallorea and Riva]

I don't think Gatesville was nearly as important as it considered itself. TITO has been too isolationist to have had an impact on gameplay to the same extent as other nominees. FRA would be a decent choice but I think they would be competing with The Meritocracy or DEN.

I believe if we're looking over the grand scheme of twelve years, the UDL were the drivers of Gameplay between 2011-2013 and UIAF have been extremely important to geopolitics since its creation.

FRA played a crucial role during the void between the slow decline of the RLA and the rise of the UDL. This was a quieter period in NationStates, but still a span of time where they were prominent.

The UDL did not "drive gameplay" during that timeframe, the raiding organizations did. The rise of The Black Hawks and their high impact raids, the increased power projection by the imperialist sphere, and the prolific tag raiding efforts and occupations by The Black Riders being the best examples.

[Unibot III]

I don't think Gatesville was nearly as important as it considered itself. TITO has been too isolationist to have had an impact on gameplay to the same extent as other nominees. FRA would be a decent choice but I think they would be competing with The Meritocracy or DEN.

I believe if we're looking over the grand scheme of twelve years, the UDL were the drivers of Gameplay between 2011-2013 and UIAF have been extremely important to geopolitics since its creation.

FRA played a crucial role during the void between the slow decline of the RLA and the rise of the UDL. This was a quieter period in NationStates, but still a span of time where they were prominent.

The UDL did not "drive gameplay" during that timeframe, the raiding organizations did. The rise of The Black Hawks and their high impact raids, the increased power projection by the imperialist sphere, and the prolific tag raiding efforts and occupations by The Black Riders being the best examples.

The Black Hawks had a series of successful raids. That doesn't make them influential on the events in Gameplay. It was practically white noise in the background of the geopolitics of the day. The UDL, on the other hand, was the central figure in just about any issue or any drama in Gameplay between 2011-2013.

[Mekhet]

The UDL did not "drive gameplay" during that timeframe, the raiding organizations did. The rise of The Black Hawks and their high impact raids, the increased power projection by the imperialist sphere, and the prolific tag raiding efforts and occupations by The Black Riders being the best examples.

The Black Hawks had a series of successful raids. That doesn't make them influential on the events in Gameplay. It was practically white noise in the background of the geopolitics of the day. The UDL, on the other hand, was the central figure in just about any issue or any drama in Gameplay between 2011-2013.

Once the UDL dies, it will be forgotten quite easily. Actually does it even exist anymore anyways?

[The Blaatschapen]

The Black Hawks had a series of successful raids. That doesn't make them influential on the events in Gameplay. It was practically white noise in the background of the geopolitics of the day. The UDL, on the other hand, was the central figure in just about any issue or any drama in Gameplay between 2011-2013.

Once the UDL dies, it will be forgotten quite easily. Actually does it even exist anymore anyways?

What are we talking about?

[Ephitos]

Once the UDL dies, it will be forgotten quite easily. Actually does it even exist anymore anyways?

What are we talking about?

idk, the DLU or something like that...

[Blackbird]

Anything before 2009 is still "news" not "history," anyways.

*chuckles*

[Nierr]

NPO
ADN
The Meritocracy
RLA
UDL
DEN
UIAF
ACC
The Empire
TRR / RRA

That'd be my list over the past twelve years.

Really, Unibot? Is your ego so inflated that you think the UDL is one of the Top 12 Organizations that has ever existed in NS? You're leaving out quite a bit of organizations that did a lot more than that. TITO, FRA, the Farkers, Gatesville, and others come to mind. All of them more influential that UDL, or UIAF for that matter.

Why is it ego inflation for Unibot to think the UDL has been one of the twelve most influential organisations and not ego inflation for you to think the FRA is?

[Mekhet]

Really, Unibot? Is your ego so inflated that you think the UDL is one of the Top 12 Organizations that has ever existed in NS? You're leaving out quite a bit of organizations that did a lot more than that. TITO, FRA, the Farkers, Gatesville, and others come to mind. All of them more influential that UDL, or UIAF for that matter.

Why is it ego inflation for Unibot to think the UDL has been one of the twelve most influential organisations and not ego inflation for you to think the FRA is?

Despite Tim being more involved in the UDL then he ever has been in the FRA...

[Nierr]

Why is it ego inflation for Unibot to think the UDL has been one of the twelve most influential organisations and not ego inflation for you to think the FRA is?

Despite Tim being more involved in the UDL then he ever has been in the FRA...

Tim has been an FRA member for a while and has, iirc, held positions in the FRA.

[Benevolent Thomas]

Why is it ego inflation for Unibot to think the UDL has been one of the twelve most influential organisations and not ego inflation for you to think the FRA is?

Despite Tim being more involved in the UDL then he ever has been in the FRA...

Nierr's just being silly. We all know to ignore Unibot's assessments about just anything because of his unrelenting bias towards himself and those that think exactly like he does. In his mind the legacy of the FRA is acting as the host in which the UDL was born. I'm surprised that the FRA wasn't in the top of his rankings purely for this reasoning. Its no secret why the 10000 Islands was left off his list so I won't even both arguing that one.

[Unibot III]

Despite Tim being more involved in the UDL then he ever has been in the FRA...

Nierr's just being silly. We all know to ignore Unibot's assessments about just anything because of his unrelenting bias towards himself and those that think exactly like he does. In his mind the legacy of the FRA is acting as the host in which the UDL was born. I'm surprised that the FRA wasn't in the top of his rankings purely for this reasoning. Its no secret why the 10000 Islands was left off his list so I won't even both arguing that one.

10000 Islands didn't make the list because it's played a periphery role in most Gameplay issues for the past twelve years. It's an isolationist region, which is fine, but if you're looking to be on a list of the most influential organizations of all time, being isolationist does not cut it!!

[Mekhet]

Nierr's just being silly. We all know to ignore Unibot's assessments about just anything because of his unrelenting bias towards himself and those that think exactly like he does. In his mind the legacy of the FRA is acting as the host in which the UDL was born. I'm surprised that the FRA wasn't in the top of his rankings purely for this reasoning. Its no secret why the 10000 Islands was left off his list so I won't even both arguing that one.

10000 Islands didn't make the list because it's played a periphery role in most Gameplay issues for the past twelve years. It's an isolationist region, which is fine, but if you're looking to be on a list of the most influential organizations of all time, being isolationist does not cut it!!

Yeah, TRR/RRA. Yeah buddy, very influential. So influential in fact, it managed to top the FRA.

[Benevolent Thomas]

The question is one of significance, not influence. Lets examine the impact regions/groups have had on the game rather than how many times their name gets brought up in Gameplay. I guarantee you that both the FRA and the 10000 Islands dwarfs the UDL in this respect and I think most would agree with this assertion. We may not be the loudest, but we've continuously have played a role for over a decade now. Not very many other groups can claim to have had the integrity to stand up for the same ideals for this amount of time.

[Applebania]

...How about we compromise and turn it into a top 15/20?