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The Isles of Random
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Postby The Isles of Random » Fri Dec 12, 2014 7:56 am

Rifty wrote:
The Isles of Random wrote:Copy and paste is a powerful thing

Since it's a warzone why didn't you remove executive controls from the founder? O.o

You didn't read the guest book did you?
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=310022

For Your Information
Warzone Vacation Resort (henceforth referred to as WZV Resort[s]) is not a Warzone, however raids are not frowned upon.
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Postby Rifty » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:05 am

The Isles of Random wrote:
Rifty wrote:Since it's a warzone why didn't you remove executive controls from the founder? O.o

You didn't read the guest book did you?
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=310022

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Of course I didn't - had funner things to do :P
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Postby NoblePhnx » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:10 am

Won't it be difficult to keep track of all the taggers and guests who visit?
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Postby The Isles of Random » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:15 am

NoblePhnx wrote:Won't it be difficult to keep track of all the taggers and guests who visit?

Not enough people visit... Business is generally slow, but the activity tab narrowed down to "moves" helps a lot. The Halloween event showed us the greatest influx of nations.

And of course taggers are super obvious to keep track of because they leave a WFE. I have a dispatch documenting all of those.
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=314798

The most difficult to track are founders.
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Postby Shadoke » Fri Dec 12, 2014 8:44 am

Rifty wrote:
The Isles of Random wrote:You didn't read the guest book did you?
http://www.nationstates.net/page=dispatch/id=310022


Of course I didn't - had funner things to do :P

Funner is not a word :P
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Postby Rifty » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:05 am

Shadoke wrote:
Rifty wrote:Of course I didn't - had funner things to do :P

Funner is not a word :P

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Postby Frederick William II » Fri Dec 12, 2014 9:17 am

I would support a proposal more along these lines:



Pan-Warzone Military pact


    Purpose
The aim of this pact is to establish a unified army among all regions recognised as a "native Warzone community." This is not to serve as a military used for any allied regions missions unless provided with a Jjust cause. This pact is not a replacement to the UWR. This pact once signed must be upheld for an indefinite period of time or at which point when 1/2 of the native Warzone delegates decide they do not wish for it to continue. It will include:
    » Definition of a "native Warzone community"
    » Terms of entry
    » Expectations of signed Warzones
    » Running of the Pact


    Definition of a "native Warzone community"
1. A native Warzone community must:
    1.1. Be in control of the delegacy for two months of a three month period of time or two months consistently Be a native government that legally came to power
    1.2. Retain a minimum of five endorsements on the delegate
    1.3. Recognize all other Warzones part of this pact as "Native"
    1.4. Uphold embassies with all Warzones regardless of current Foreign Affairs

2. A native Warzone community must not:
    2.1. Be an occupation by a foreign military
    2.2. Have more foreign military endorsements thean native ones, unless said foreign military endorsements are being used to protect the Warzone during an attack1
    2.3. Close embassies with any Warzone

    Terms of entry
1. Must meet the requirements to be a "native Warzone community"
2. Have their delegate sign for the entire region
3. Recognize all other Warzones part of this pact as "native Warzone community" This is a requirement to be a native Warzone community, which is covered in #2.
4. Must open embassies with The Association of Imperialism

    Expectations of signed Warzones
1. To uphold their own military if the Delegate has more than five endorsements
2. Allow the military to be commanded by the "Protector of Native Warzone Communities" in times of need
3. Have an individual military commander for their specific Warzone's military and to advise the "Protector of Native Warzone Communities"
4. Uphold embassies with both The Association of Imperialism andall other Warzones
5. Not take military action against any other Warzone
6. Avoid causing inter-regional disputes which may lead to Mmilitary action taken against said Warzone any other Warzone

    Running of the Pact
1. Any nation may nominate themselves to be the "Protector of Native Warzone Communities" Each Warzone that is able to have a military is required to use that military to protect another signatory Warzone that has come under attack
2. The "Protector of Native Warzone Communities" has overuling control of the Pan-Warzone Military If the military of a Warzone is engaged in military operations that do not include defending another Warzone, then the military has three days to conclude those military operations before it must come to the aid of the Warzone under attack
3. The "Protector of Native Warzone Communities" is voted upon out of the nominees with each Warzone receiving one vote
4. The "Protector of Native Warzone Communities" must not use the Pan-Warzone Military for any military events other then those in the best interests of all the "native Warzone communities"

5. The movement of endorsements from region to region to ensure safety for all
6. The Pan-Warzone Military must be used to reclaim all Warzones displaced by foreign forces


    Signatures

Prophet of The Association of Imperialism: Rifty 2

Delegate of Warzone Africa:
Delegate of Warzone Airship:
Delegate of Warzone Asia:
Delegate of Warzone Australia:
Delegate of Warzone Europe:
Delegate of Warzone Sandbox:


1 If another region came in to protect the Warzone and provided more foreign endorsements than native endorsements, they would technically be violating this clause.

2 I fail to see why The Association of Imperialism needs to even be involved.
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Postby The Isles of Random » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:01 am

To expand upon the issue of AOI involvement, I would liken the AOI to your favorite store. We like them, we enjoy their company (unless it gets uncomfortable), and we hold them in high regard. But sometimes signing up for a membership or credit card isn't always the best thing.
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Postby Rifty » Fri Dec 12, 2014 10:08 am

The Isles of Random wrote:To expand upon the issue of AOI involvement, I would liken the AOI to your favorite store. We like them, we enjoy their company (unless it gets uncomfortable), and we hold them in high regard. But sometimes signing up for a membership or credit card isn't always the best thing.

Well as I stated this wasn't to futher my own power but to allow us to either have you guys become all allied or have it so we can hit the Warzones without the worry of you guys not being able to rebuild. I shall leave you all to finish this yourself but I would like a mention in it's writing if that's not too much to ask.

WZEU and WZAS have our assurance of AoI free delegacy. From here on out all others do not. Guess that means it's time to remove "Watcher" from my Signature, huh? ^_~
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Postby The Isles of Random » Fri Dec 12, 2014 11:35 am

Rifty wrote:
The Isles of Random wrote:To expand upon the issue of AOI involvement, I would liken the AOI to your favorite store. We like them, we enjoy their company (unless it gets uncomfortable), and we hold them in high regard. But sometimes signing up for a membership or credit card isn't always the best thing.

Well as I stated this wasn't to futher my own power but to allow us to either have you guys become all allied or have it so we can hit the Warzones without the worry of you guys not being able to rebuild. I shall leave you all to finish this yourself but I would like a mention in it's writing if that's not too much to ask.

WZEU and WZAS have our assurance of AoI free delegacy. From here on out all others do not. Guess that means it's time to remove "Watcher" from my Signature, huh? ^_~

I'll leave that up to you. I'm still watching... 0_0

Not you, the Warzones
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Postby Fiddlalia » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:04 pm

Rifty wrote:
The Isles of Random wrote:To expand upon the issue of AOI involvement, I would liken the AOI to your favorite store. We like them, we enjoy their company (unless it gets uncomfortable), and we hold them in high regard. But sometimes signing up for a membership or credit card isn't always the best thing.

Well as I stated this wasn't to futher my own power but to allow us to either have you guys become all allied or have it so we can hit the Warzones without the worry of you guys not being able to rebuild. I shall leave you all to finish this yourself but I would like a mention in it's writing if that's not too much to ask.

WZEU and WZAS have our assurance of AoI free delegacy. From here on out all others do not. Guess that means it's time to remove "Watcher" from my Signature, huh? ^_~

I fully understand that. My main concern is with other groups hating is when you get involved. As an example, TEK has helped WZAI a lot, and it seems that cooperation with AoI would lead to conflict.

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Postby Rifty » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:11 pm

Fiddlalia wrote:
Rifty wrote:Well as I stated this wasn't to futher my own power but to allow us to either have you guys become all allied or have it so we can hit the Warzones without the worry of you guys not being able to rebuild. I shall leave you all to finish this yourself but I would like a mention in it's writing if that's not too much to ask.

WZEU and WZAS have our assurance of AoI free delegacy. From here on out all others do not. Guess that means it's time to remove "Watcher" from my Signature, huh? ^_~

I fully understand that. My main concern is with other groups hating is when you get involved. As an example, TEK has helped WZAI a lot, and it seems that cooperation with AoI would lead to conflict.

Any conflict in WZEU? Any conflict in WZAS? Admittedly WZAS was raided a few weeks back but that had nothing to do with our presence - however we made sure they had the region back by the next update. Look at the regions we're allied with and look at how they are faring.

TEK has also gone under new leadership which supports AoI a great deal - Going as far as offering an alliance.

Being blunt - As much as allying with us may increase your chances of being raided by a very small chance; Having us as allies also makes your region a lot more safe and a transition from being raided to being back in the delegate seat a hell of a lot easier.

Also since the announcement of being Independents with a Raider leaning rather then straight up raiders - Makes us even less of a region to dislike. We've helped liberate APN from raiders with the help of defenders. Foreign relations on our part are getting a hell of a lot better.
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Postby Fiddlalia » Fri Dec 12, 2014 3:20 pm

Rifty wrote:
Fiddlalia wrote:I fully understand that. My main concern is with other groups hating is when you get involved. As an example, TEK has helped WZAI a lot, and it seems that cooperation with AoI would lead to conflict.

Any conflict in WZEU? Any conflict in WZAS? Admittedly WZAS was raided a few weeks back but that had nothing to do with our presence - however we made sure they had the region back by the next update. Look at the regions we're allied with and look at how they are faring.

TEK has also gone under new leadership which supports AoI a great deal - Going as far as offering an alliance.

Being blunt - As much as allying with us may increase your chances of being raided by a very small chance; Having us as allies also makes your region a lot more safe and a transition from being raided to being back in the delegate seat a hell of a lot easier.

Also since the announcement of being Independents with a Raider leaning rather then straight up raiders - Makes us even less of a region to dislike. We've helped liberate APN from raiders with the help of defenders. Foreign relations on our part are getting a hell of a lot better.

That certainly sounds nice. It will hopefully be discussed.

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Postby The Isles of Random » Mon Dec 15, 2014 6:18 am

So... When is the next Warzone Weekly coming out?

There has to be a good lump on WZAU. Raids, TWP, and New Zealandia, boy it's been busy. And in the end, WZAU sports the WFE I put up back when I was delegate (excluding the top line and the imperialism comment).
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Postby Siberian Districts » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:07 am

The Isles of Random wrote:So... When is the next Warzone Weekly coming out?

There has to be a good lump on WZAU. Raids, TWP, and New Zealandia, boy it's been busy. And in the end, WZAU sports the WFE I put up back when I was delegate (excluding the top line and the imperialism comment).


Ah, yes.
I wanted to establish Warzone embassies with TWP, and rather than just ask like any normal person, I lead a quick training mission.
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Postby Rifty » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:12 am

Siberian Districts wrote:
The Isles of Random wrote:So... When is the next Warzone Weekly coming out?

There has to be a good lump on WZAU. Raids, TWP, and New Zealandia, boy it's been busy. And in the end, WZAU sports the WFE I put up back when I was delegate (excluding the top line and the imperialism comment).


Ah, yes.
I wanted to establish Warzone embassies with TWP, and rather than just ask like any normal person, I lead a quick training mission.

Would be wise in future to ask - Rather then claim...Especially within the borders of Warzones :eyebrow:
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Postby Khronion » Mon Dec 15, 2014 11:05 am

Isles, wanna finish the issue up? RL picked up quite suddenly, so this week will probably not see much of me outside of a few sporadic forum posts.

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Postby The Isles of Random » Mon Dec 15, 2014 3:47 pm

Khronion wrote:Isles, wanna finish the issue up? RL picked up quite suddenly, so this week will probably not see much of me outside of a few sporadic forum posts.

I think most of us are mad busy now. Tis the season to be jolly, frustrated, busy, anxious, worried, and terrified. If we look at the standard demographics, we realize that the kids are antsy for Christmas, the teens are busy with college applications, the college students are studying for exams, most adults have work to finish before taking Christmas vacations, and some still have to do Christmas shopping. The only truly sane people on here right now may be the grandparents out there.
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Postby The Isles of Random » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:28 pm

I saw that some of the Warzones have applied for a spot in the NS world fair.

How does that work? And what are we as the Warzones doing there?
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Postby Rifty » Thu Dec 18, 2014 3:32 pm

The Isles of Random wrote:I saw that some of the Warzones have applied for a spot in the NS world fair.

How does that work? And what are we as the Warzones doing there?

Yeah I saw that - Id be a bit ticked off as a Warzone if I happened to grouped alongside other Warzones; Especially if we weren't part of the UWR.
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Postby Arekrya » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:45 pm

The Isles of Random wrote:I saw that some of the Warzones have applied for a spot in the NS world fair.

How does that work? And what are we as the Warzones doing there?

It really just meant WZAF, and WZAI, as we're working together for the NSWF.
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Postby The Isles of Random » Thu Dec 18, 2014 4:47 pm

Rifty wrote:
The Isles of Random wrote:I saw that some of the Warzones have applied for a spot in the NS world fair.

How does that work? And what are we as the Warzones doing there?

Yeah I saw that - Id be a bit ticked off as a Warzone if I happened to grouped alongside other Warzones; Especially if we weren't part of the UWR.

Now now, no one said that the UWR would be presented or that all the Warzones are getting clumped into a single group. I imagine that the Warzones would get, say, a corner of the fairgrounds. As the initial application goes, WZAF, WZAI, and WZEU were the three mentioned. I'm not sure what WZEU is doing with it though.
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Postby Ever-Wandering Souls » Fri Dec 19, 2014 12:17 am

Arekrya wrote:
The Isles of Random wrote:I saw that some of the Warzones have applied for a spot in the NS world fair.

How does that work? And what are we as the Warzones doing there?

It really just meant WZAF, and WZAI, as we're working together for the NSWF.


....I did a double take there :P NationStates World Fair? xD The Acronym is very close to NSFW :P
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Postby The Isles of Random » Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:59 am

Ever-Wandering Souls wrote:
Arekrya wrote:It really just meant WZAF, and WZAI, as we're working together for the NSWF.


....I did a double take there :P NationStates World Fair? xD The Acronym is very close to NSFW :P

The NSWF is probably NSFW :P


So what have the Warzones participating set up at the fair? I believe it starts today.
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Postby Ancian » Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:32 pm

The Isles of Random wrote:
Rifty wrote:Yeah I saw that - Id be a bit ticked off as a Warzone if I happened to grouped alongside other Warzones; Especially if we weren't part of the UWR.

Now now, no one said that the UWR would be presented or that all the Warzones are getting clumped into a single group. I imagine that the Warzones would get, say, a corner of the fairgrounds. As the initial application goes, WZAF, WZAI, and WZEU were the three mentioned. I'm not sure what WZEU is doing with it though.

I'll participate for wzeu, although no clue what we're doing.
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