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Vrolondia
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Postby Vrolondia » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:24 am

:palm:

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Postby Small Huts » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:32 am

Scissoro wrote: You don't go to play the game Monopoly and roleplay little stories about what each person is doing in the little houses you get do you?

We do around here and if you don't, you have a pretty limited idea of what makes any game fun.

Zaolat wrote:It's politics and adds an interesting element to the game.

True, however, when one person's idea of fun includes the destruction of another's, it trolling.
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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:39 am

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Postby Alyekra » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:41 am



What's a little vandalism between strangers?
(FOR LEGAL REASONS, THAT'S A JOKE)

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Bolkania
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Postby Bolkania » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:42 am


I really think you can not comment since you are in a massive defender region.
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Evil Wolf
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Postby Evil Wolf » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:46 am

Alyekra wrote:


What's a little vandalism between strangers?


You're the kind of person who would call Banksy a criminal vandal deserving of the harshest punishment, aren't you? :P
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Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:46 am

Bolkania wrote:I really think you can not comment since you are in a massive defender region.

It's naive to think that the GCR I reside in has any impact on my R/D opinions and/or alignment.

Alyekra wrote:What's a little vandalism between strangers?

The fact that you believe there is morality in R/D astounds me.
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Our biggest problem is children looking at titties.

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Postby Bolkania » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:48 am

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Bolkania wrote:I really think you can not comment since you are in a massive defender region.

It's naive to think that the GCR I reside in has any impact on my R/D opinions and/or alignment.

Alyekra wrote:What's a little vandalism between strangers?

The fact that you believe there is morality in R/D astounds me.

L.L.A?

Lazarus Liberation Army?

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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:49 am

Bolkania wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:It's naive to think that the GCR I reside in has any impact on my R/D opinions and/or alignment.


The fact that you believe there is morality in R/D astounds me.

L.L.A?

Lazarus Liberation Army?

Yeah, I used to be in it. I haven't been a moralistic defender for a while, the LLA was just fun for me.
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Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Just shut down their government already.

Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
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Our biggest problem is children looking at titties.

Immoren wrote:I'd think that comparing FB to Twitter and Instagram is like comparing apples and baseballs.

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Postby Small Huts » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:50 am

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Alyekra wrote:What's a little vandalism between strangers?

The fact that you believe there is morality in R/D astounds me.

The fact that you don't astounds everyone else.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:50 am

Not everyone who resides in Lazarus is a defender, in fact, most aren't. I, for example, was once the Delegate of Lazarus, three times in fact, twice I was even elected. Does that make Lazarus a raider region?
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Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
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[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:50 am

Small Huts wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:The fact that you believe there is morality in R/D astounds me.

The fact that you don't astounds everyone else.

Not at all. It's a minigame and nothing more.
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Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
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Our biggest problem is children looking at titties.

Immoren wrote:I'd think that comparing FB to Twitter and Instagram is like comparing apples and baseballs.

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Postby Small Huts » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:51 am

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Small Huts wrote:The fact that you don't astounds everyone else.

Not at all. It's a minigame and nothing more.

Everything is more than one thinks, even if one isn't shallow.
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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:53 am

Small Huts wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Not at all. It's a minigame and nothing more.

Everything is more than one thinks, even if one isn't shallow.

How does that have anything to do with moralistic R/D?
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Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
The Grey Wolf wrote:Yes, in this world filled with wars, murder, rape, and crime in general...

Our biggest problem is children looking at titties.

Immoren wrote:I'd think that comparing FB to Twitter and Instagram is like comparing apples and baseballs.

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Postby Small Huts » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:54 am

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Small Huts wrote:Everything is more than one thinks, even if one isn't shallow.

How does that have anything to do with moralistic R/D?

Solipsism is amoral. if one runs around doing it for the sake of their own fun at the expense of others, they're amoral.
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Postby Evil Wolf » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:55 am

Small Huts wrote:
Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Not at all. It's a minigame and nothing more.

Everything is more than you think, even if one isn't shallow.


Morality is entirely subjective. Even if you believe raiding is wrong, just how wrong people think it is will vary.

Personally, I think the idea of Game Morality is silly and to bring it up in the company of raiders is even sillier. If you really want to appeal to a Crasher, you talk about how honorable their actions are. Some might actually listen to an opinion about that, but not all.
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Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

Mallorea and Riva should be a Game Moderator Game Administrator.

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Postby Small Huts » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:56 am

Evil Wolf wrote:
Small Huts wrote:Everything is more than you think, even if one isn't shallow.


Morality is entirely subjective. Even if you believe raiding is wrong, just how wrong people think it is will vary.

Personally, I think the idea of Game Morality is silly and to bring it up in the company of raiders is even sillier. If you really want to appeal to a Crasher, you talk about how honorable their actions are. Some might actually listen to an opinion about that, but not all.

That's right. The amoral Raider just doesn't care. There are however, moral Raiders and moral actions within R/D.
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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 8:58 am

Small Huts wrote:
Evil Wolf wrote:
Morality is entirely subjective. Even if you believe raiding is wrong, just how wrong people think it is will vary.

Personally, I think the idea of Game Morality is silly and to bring it up in the company of raiders is even sillier. If you really want to appeal to a Crasher, you talk about how honorable their actions are. Some might actually listen to an opinion about that, but not all.

That's right. The amoral Raider just doesn't care. There are however, moral Raiders and moral actions within R/D.

You misunderstood what I said.

Yes, there are groups who do things for their morals but one group is not the correct and moral one and people need to stop taking the game so seriously.
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Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Just shut down their government already.

Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
The Grey Wolf wrote:Yes, in this world filled with wars, murder, rape, and crime in general...

Our biggest problem is children looking at titties.

Immoren wrote:I'd think that comparing FB to Twitter and Instagram is like comparing apples and baseballs.

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Postby Small Huts » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:00 am

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Small Huts wrote:That's right. The amoral Raider just doesn't care. There are however, moral Raiders and moral actions within R/D.

You misunderstood what I said.

Yes, there are groups who do things for their morals but one group is not the correct and moral one and people need to stop taking the game so seriously.

It's my game and I'll treat it how I like, so long as I don't mash another's fun, we're all good.

Think about what 'consent' might mean. If we both agree to use ropes and ball gags, then everyone's going to have fun. Anyone who grabs someone off the street and tells them they're not getting a safe word, is a bastard. It's no different here.
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Postby Alyekra » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:02 am

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Bolkania wrote:I really think you can not comment since you are in a massive defender region.

It's naive to think that the GCR I reside in has any impact on my R/D opinions and/or alignment.

Alyekra wrote:What's a little vandalism between strangers?

The fact that you believe there is morality in R/D astounds me.


Games have morals, too. Just sometimes they aren't enforced.
(FOR LEGAL REASONS, THAT'S A JOKE)

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Darwinish Brentsylvania
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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:09 am

Don't worry, I'm leading a liberation on the region.

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Postby Totally Not Leningrad Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:11 am

Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Don't worry, I'm leading a liberation on the region.

That's such a smart idea to just announce that on an open forum. :clap:
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Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:Just shut down their government already.

Unfortunately, North Korea doesn't have the Republican Party.
The Grey Wolf wrote:Yes, in this world filled with wars, murder, rape, and crime in general...

Our biggest problem is children looking at titties.

Immoren wrote:I'd think that comparing FB to Twitter and Instagram is like comparing apples and baseballs.

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Postby Republic of Slovsko » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:22 am

Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Don't worry, I'm leading a liberation on the region.


:palm: :palm: :palm:

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Postby The South Polish Union » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:54 am

Whiskum wrote:
Vrolondia wrote:Personally, I hope FRA smartens up and starts to attack your friends and allies, but we both know that's an impossibility don't we? So please, tell me, how is this a war when it's one sided?

Actually, you will find that SCOP attacked the region of Anzia in an attempt to pursue a war against the UIAF.

Of course, Anzia is not an ally of any of the UIAF regions. We never promised to defend it; only to offer it non-aggression.

However, that did not SCOP from attacking that region in an attempt to pursue hostilities against us.

The UIAF and Anzia were both signatories of the Green-Black Concordat. As both parties signed an official diplomatic agreement, they were therefore allied. Apparently you do not understand what the purpose of such diplomatic agreements really are.

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Postby Darwinish Brentsylvania » Sat Apr 19, 2014 9:55 am

Totally Not Leningrad Union wrote:
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Don't worry, I'm leading a liberation on the region.

That's such a smart idea to just announce that on an open forum. :clap:

Republic of Slovsko wrote:
Darwinish Brentsylvania wrote:Don't worry, I'm leading a liberation on the region.


:palm: :palm: :palm:
I don't care what you say, the UIAF already knows there will be an opposition force against them, and they should know I'm leading it.

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