Raiders ruining RP regions yet again...

[Bolkania]

During our last major update, we have seen another vicious attempt to occupy an RPing and chat region, Slavya. This is only surpassed by the raiders lying about their reasons, stating that Slavya was apart of SCOP, the Slavic co-operation pact, which has one member, and that is not Slavya. This is like saying Greenland is apart of NATO because it is in the North Atlantic, and does not have to apply. Obviously, all raiders need to write is "You have been invaded because we have nothing else to do in our in shallow existences".

I firmly support the idea that a system should be implemented so that RPing regions can avoid gamely and hostile takeovers. From experience, when you refound or move to new regions, you can lose like our case, 60% of you population. This means that the raiders essentially not only displace members, but force them to recruit again, another example of raiders ruining the game. This so called self-proclaimed "soldiers or even warriors" don't have an ounce of honour or respect in their bodies, defiling RMBs and WFEs alike.

I PETITION THESE RAIDERS TO LEAVE THIS REGION ALONE, A REGION NOT AFFILIATED WITH GAMEPLAY!

[Evil Wolf]

I PETITION THESE RAIDERS TO LEAVE THIS REGION ALONE, A REGION NOT AFFILIATED WITH GAMEPLAY!

Not affiliated with Gameplay? I disagree. Despite claims to the contrary, your region is very much involved in this conflict.

This is like saying Greenland is apart of NATO because it is in the North Atlantic, and does not have to apply.

Greenland is part of Denmark, which is in NATO.

[Bolkania]

I PETITION THESE RAIDERS TO LEAVE THIS REGION ALONE, A REGION NOT AFFILIATED WITH GAMEPLAY!

Not affiliated with Gameplay? I disagree. Despite claims to the contrary, your region is very much involved in this conflict.

This is like saying Greenland is apart of NATO because it is in the North Atlantic, and does not have to apply.

Greenland is part of Denmark, which is in NATO.

It was a example. (There still apart of Denmark? Why does an unearthly superpower like Greenland need Denmark?)

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And the above says Slavya where?

Slavya is a entirely different region to Slavska/Slavia you know?

[Port blood]

I PETITION THESE RAIDERS TO LEAVE THIS REGION ALONE, A REGION NOT AFFILIATED WITH GAMEPLAY!

Wrong. your region is in the game,ergo it's involved in gameplay

As for the SCOP thing,hasn't Slavia pretty much proven that raiders do not give a damn if you say you don't belong to something like SCOP or FRA?

[Deathstroke the Terminator]

Maybe shouldn't have affiliated with Slavska, and this would have never happened.

[Scissoro]

Scissoro Says:

The only person to blame is your founder, who chose to die and abandon your region. It is common knowledge and clearly known that raiders target regions with no founders. I would recommend a hasty evacuation and re-founding.

You win some, you lose some. NationStates Isn't a PeeWee Tee-Ball game where everyone gets a trophy at the end, its a political game with a war element. Note that its a "Game" hence the word "Gameplay". You don't go to play the game Monopoly and roleplay little stories about what each person is doing in the little houses you get do you? If you did that you would get stomped on, just as you have now.

The Defender in me says you should have joined FRA, TITO, GIRO, or any other acronym to help keep you protected... Or signed a treaty with somebody. Clearly the allies your region chose Embassy up with are of no use.

[Jeckland]

I have a suggestion. Take a pack of cards

And deal with it.

[Vrolondia]

Well, you have three options here:

The first option is to to leave and re-found. Since your founders gone this will keep happening because your region is now a target, whether you like it or not. Welcome to Nation States, you don't have the option to be Neutral anymore.

The second option is to sit there and do nothing, let the region die, then get angry and quit

The third option is to sit there and do something that's actually useful. Submit a Liberation proposal so they can't re-found the region or enact any permanent bans, it's the best thing you can do if you intend on staying.
Then make some alliances, I mean real alliances, people who will protect you if it happens again. Not some small like minded region, pick someone big, old, and with a lot of big, old friends. Write some letters, sign a couple pieces of paper, and hope it doesn't happen again.

A word of advice; they don't care about you, this topic, your region, or any reason why they are there. They are there quite simply because they can, and if you want to fight back you get all your friends and join a Defender group like Ten Thousand Islands, Founderless Regions Alliance, or United Defenders League.

Personally, I would gather all your friends and found a new region, then you will be the Founder. Then you can protect your friends, ja? Then you could go on to your hearts content RPing with them and nobody will bother you.

But when you're big you remember this. And you hit them back harder.

Also, Britain would have been a better example to use instead of Greenland

[Whiskum]

A word of advice; they don't care about you, this topic, your region, or any reason why they are there. They are there quite simply because they can, and if you want to fight back you get all your friends and join a Defender group like Ten Thousand Islands, Founderless Regions Alliance, or United Defenders League.

There would be nothing worse than joining or affiliating to defender organisation like the FRA: we are at war with them and target any regions associated with them. Indeed, that is why the region of Slavia, Slavya's ally, was targeted in the first place, triggering this chain of events.

On the contrary, we do care very much about why we are in Slavya. The reasons will be released in an official UIAF statement shortly.

[Bolkania]

A word of advice; they don't care about you, this topic, your region, or any reason why they are there. They are there quite simply because they can, and if you want to fight back you get all your friends and join a Defender group like Ten Thousand Islands, Founderless Regions Alliance, or United Defenders League.

There would be nothing worse than joining or affiliating to defender organisation like the FRA: we are at war with them and target any regions associated with them. Indeed, that is why the region of Slavia, Slavya's ally, was targeted in the first place, triggering this chain of events.

On the contrary, we do care very much about why we are in Slavya. The reasons will be released in an official UIAF statement shortly.

Let me guess? You will lie about how they are in SCOP and/or are a puppet region of Slavska, and this is your eternal war on defenders?

[Vrolondia]

A word of advice; they don't care about you, this topic, your region, or any reason why they are there. They are there quite simply because they can, and if you want to fight back you get all your friends and join a Defender group like Ten Thousand Islands, Founderless Regions Alliance, or United Defenders League.

There would be nothing worse than joining or affiliating to defender organisation like the FRA: we are at war with them and target any regions associated with them. Indeed, that is why the region of Slavia, Slavya's ally, was targeted in the first place, triggering this chain of events.

On the contrary, we do care very much about why we are in Slavya. The reasons will be released in an official UIAF statement shortly.

Yeah, yeah, that's not exactly a bloody secret. One will attack you one will defend you, do you join the defender or attacker? The defender will defend you regardless, but the attacker will stop attacking you. The irony is that the defender will defend the attack when the attacker is attacked, so who's really in the right in this situation?

Personally, I hope FRA smartens up and starts to attack your friends and allies, but we both know that will never happen, don't we? So please, tell me, how is this a war?

Target someone who will actually fight back and stop hiding behind an impossibility, then I'll actually respect your organization

[The Sapientia]

It's funny because all you're doing is inviting more raiders to pile in... And that's not a good thing.

[Whiskum]

There would be nothing worse than joining or affiliating to defender organisation like the FRA: we are at war with them and target any regions associated with them. Indeed, that is why the region of Slavia, Slavya's ally, was targeted in the first place, triggering this chain of events.

On the contrary, we do care very much about why we are in Slavya. The reasons will be released in an official UIAF statement shortly.

Let me guess? You will lie about how they are in SCOP and/or are a puppet region of Slavska, and this is your eternal war on defenders?

There will be no lies.

Additionally, we will be not be claiming that they are currently official members of SCOP or making any reference to them as a puppet of Slavska.

We will, however, illustrate the connections between Slavya and Slavia, and show that Slavya was listed as affiliated to SCOP when they declared war.

The 'eternal war' in this instance was initiated by the actions of the SCOP.

I am not going to debate any further with you the contents of a statement which has yet to be issued. You can read and question it when we release it.

Personally, I hope FRA smartens up and starts to attack your friends and allies, but we both know that's an impossibility don't we? So please, tell me, how is this a war when it's one sided?

Actually, you will find that SCOP attacked the region of Anzia in an attempt to pursue a war against the UIAF.

Of course, Anzia is not an ally of any of the UIAF regions. We never promised to defend it; only to offer it non-aggression.

However, that did not SCOP from attacking that region in an attempt to pursue hostilities against us.

Look where Slavya is today as a result of that grave mistake.

[Vrolondia]

Let me guess? You will lie about how they are in SCOP and/or are a puppet region of Slavska, and this is your eternal war on defenders?

There will be no lies.

Additionally, we will be not be claiming that they are currently official members of SCOP or making any reference to them as a puppet of Slavska.

We will, however, illustrate the connections between Slavya and Slavia, and show that Slavya was listed as affiliated to SCOP when they declared war.

The 'eternal war' in this instance was initiated by the actions of the SCOP.

I am not going to debate any further with you the contents of a statement which has yet to be issued. You can read and question it when we release it.

Personally, I hope FRA smartens up and starts to attack your friends and allies, but we both know that's an impossibility don't we? So please, tell me, how is this a war when it's one sided?

Actually, you will find that SCOP attacked the region of Anzia in an attempt to pursue a war against the UIAF.

Of course, Anzia is not an ally of any of the UIAF regions. We never promised to defend it; only to offer it non-aggression.

However, that did not SCOP from attacking that region in an attempt to pursue hostilities against us.

Look where Slavya is today as a result of that grave mistake.

Ah well that changes everything then ^^

Good job taking a region that may or may not be involved in anyway over the invasion of somebody with a Non-Aggression Pact.

Mature, thought out decision for a non-warmongoring organization ^^

[Whiskum]

There will be no lies.

Additionally, we will be not be claiming that they are currently official members of SCOP or making any reference to them as a puppet of Slavska.

We will, however, illustrate the connections between Slavya and Slavia, and show that Slavya was listed as affiliated to SCOP when they declared war.

The 'eternal war' in this instance was initiated by the actions of the SCOP.

I am not going to debate any further with you the contents of a statement which has yet to be issued. You can read and question it when we release it.


Actually, you will find that SCOP attacked the region of Anzia in an attempt to pursue a war against the UIAF.

Of course, Anzia is not an ally of any of the UIAF regions. We never promised to defend it; only to offer it non-aggression.

However, that did not SCOP from attacking that region in an attempt to pursue hostilities against us.

Look where Slavya is today as a result of that grave mistake.

Ah well that changes everything then ^^

Good job taking a region that may or may not be involved in anyway over the invasion of somebody with a Non-Aggression Pact.

Mature, thought out decision for a non-warmongoring organization ^^

We never declared any state of war with SCOP; it is they who deemed one to exist with us.

Slavya is a close ally of Slavia, a member of SCOP, and at the time of SCOP's 3rd January threats to UAIF, Slavya was listed as one of its members.

Those are sufficient connnections with SCOP for Slavya to be a legitimate target for retribution for SCOP's actions.

It is not the fact that they invaded Anzia which requires retribution, as we made no commitment to invade those who attack it.

It is the fact that they invaded Anzia on the basis that they were attacking UIAF that warrants this response.

[Zaolat]

There will be no lies.

Additionally, we will be not be claiming that they are currently official members of SCOP or making any reference to them as a puppet of Slavska.

We will, however, illustrate the connections between Slavya and Slavia, and show that Slavya was listed as affiliated to SCOP when they declared war.

The 'eternal war' in this instance was initiated by the actions of the SCOP.

I am not going to debate any further with you the contents of a statement which has yet to be issued. You can read and question it when we release it.


Actually, you will find that SCOP attacked the region of Anzia in an attempt to pursue a war against the UIAF.

Of course, Anzia is not an ally of any of the UIAF regions. We never promised to defend it; only to offer it non-aggression.

However, that did not SCOP from attacking that region in an attempt to pursue hostilities against us.

Look where Slavya is today as a result of that grave mistake.

Ah well that changes everything then ^^

Good job taking a region that may or may not be involved in anyway over the invasion of somebody with a Non-Aggression Pact.

Mature, thought out decision for a non-warmongoring organization ^^

Maybe you don't understand what Imperialism is.

[Vrolondia]

Ah well that changes everything then ^^

Good job taking a region that may or may not be involved in anyway over the invasion of somebody with a Non-Aggression Pact.

Mature, thought out decision for a non-warmongoring organization ^^

Maybe you don't understand what Imperialism is.

I understand exactly what Imperialism is, I just think the whole concept is retarded.

boo hoo, they hurt my feelings, this region is now mine

Grow some balls then grow up, you don't need to break somebody else's toy because they have it.

[Zaolat]

Maybe you don't understand what Imperialism is.

I understand exactly what Imperialism is, I just think the whole concept is retarded.

boo hoo, they hurt my feelings, this region is now mine

Grow some balls then grow up, you don't need to break somebody else's toy because they have it.

It's politics and adds an interesting element to the game.

[Vrolondia]

I understand exactly what Imperialism is, I just think the whole concept is retarded.

boo hoo, they hurt my feelings, this region is now mine

Grow some balls then grow up, you don't need to break somebody else's toy because they have it.

It's politics and adds an interesting element to the game.

True enough, I can respect that. If it's not a hog-wash "DEY BE FENDAS IN THEM HILLS! ATTACK!" I can get behind it.

Do you intend to re-found or release?

[Bolkania]

Let me guess? You will lie about how they are in SCOP and/or are a puppet region of Slavska, and this is your eternal war on defenders?

There will be no lies.

Additionally, we will be not be claiming that they are currently official members of SCOP or making any reference to them as a puppet of Slavska.

We will, however, illustrate the connections between Slavya and Slavia, and show that Slavya was listed as affiliated to SCOP when they declared war.

The 'eternal war' in this instance was initiated by the actions of the SCOP.

I am not going to debate any further with you the contents of a statement which has yet to be issued. You can read and question it when we release it.

Personally, I hope FRA smartens up and starts to attack your friends and allies, but we both know that's an impossibility don't we? So please, tell me, how is this a war when it's one sided?

Actually, you will find that SCOP attacked the region of Anzia in an attempt to pursue a war against the UIAF.

Of course, Anzia is not an ally of any of the UIAF regions. We never promised to defend it; only to offer it non-aggression.

However, that did not SCOP from attacking that region in an attempt to pursue hostilities against us.

Look where Slavya is today as a result of that grave mistake.

Where is this list of regions proving Slavya was affiliated?

[Whiskum]

There will be no lies.

Additionally, we will be not be claiming that they are currently official members of SCOP or making any reference to them as a puppet of Slavska.

We will, however, illustrate the connections between Slavya and Slavia, and show that Slavya was listed as affiliated to SCOP when they declared war.

The 'eternal war' in this instance was initiated by the actions of the SCOP.

I am not going to debate any further with you the contents of a statement which has yet to be issued. You can read and question it when we release it.


Actually, you will find that SCOP attacked the region of Anzia in an attempt to pursue a war against the UIAF.

Of course, Anzia is not an ally of any of the UIAF regions. We never promised to defend it; only to offer it non-aggression.

However, that did not SCOP from attacking that region in an attempt to pursue hostilities against us.

Look where Slavya is today as a result of that grave mistake.

Where is this list of regions proving Slavya was affiliated?

The evidence will be provided in the official statement.

[Evil Wolf]

Where is this list of regions proving Slavya was affiliated?

So the three regions that attacked Anzia were Slavska, Das Kommune, and Poland Lithuania.

From the Slavska and Poland Lithuania WFE's:

The embassy with Slavya is being withdrawn. Closure expected in 3 days 1 hour.

There's your affiliation, at a bare minimum.

Also, Britain would have been a better example to use instead of Greenland

They're part of NATO too.

[Vrolondia]

Where is this list of regions proving Slavya was affiliated?

So the three regions that attacked Anzia were Slavska, Das Kommune, and Poland Lithuania.

From the Slavska and Poland Lithuania WFE's:

The embassy with Slavya is being withdrawn. Closure expected in 3 days 1 hour.

There's your affiliation, at a bare minimum.

Also, Britain would have been a better example to use instead of Greenland

They're part of NATO too.

Ah, so they are. I was thinking EU but was wrong about that too

[Bolkania]

I and a few others have devolved SCOP, since it first put Slavya and Slavska at risk, and was created illegally under the Slavian constitution.

[Republic of Slovsko]

Official Message from the temporary government of Slavska

To Whom it may concern,
The temporary government of Slavska would like to announce that SCOP, the Slavic co-operation pact, does no longer exist from this point onward.
We have found that this pact was misused and that the members were acting without any official consent, and misusing the region's name.
Therefore, from this point onward, All activites of the Slavic co-operation pact are being halted, the pact annulled, and any statements that were issued or will be issued are considered void and reflects only the views of those who wrote it, not Slavska in any kind.

On behalf of the temporary government of Slavska, Repbulc of Slovsko