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by Cerian Quilor » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:04 am
by Glen-Rhodes » Fri Feb 01, 2013 10:57 am
Biyah wrote:Basically, every time we did something you didn't like (which was almost everything), we were terrible at running our own affairs, because we dared do something of which you didn't approve.
by Cormac Stark » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:10 am
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Not one of the people listed in the Committee is concerned with regional sovereignty. Rather, a group of elites and old mainstays got together and devised a way to amass even more power in NationStates. SovCon is the product of narrow self-interest.
by Unibot III » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:28 am
Cormac Stark wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:Not one of the people listed in the Committee is concerned with regional sovereignty. Rather, a group of elites and old mainstays got together and devised a way to amass even more power in NationStates. SovCon is the product of narrow self-interest.
Well, thank you for that. I don't know what I would do without UDL members to tell me what I'm thinking, what my motives are, and whether or not what I'm doing at any given time meets their rigorous standards of in-game morality. Clearly we are all terrible, power hungry people; I have seen the error of my ways and recant this sovereignty nonsense in favor of UDLimperialismcosmopolitanism.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Cormac Stark » Fri Feb 01, 2013 11:44 am
Unibot III wrote:UDL has no formal position over cosmopolitanism or regionalism -- we're not a regional organization thus it would be inappropriate and beyond our scope to discuss ideal regional politics, attitudes and structures.
Unibot III wrote:But thanks for the avoidance: It is in fact, your organization that is taking a stance against a political alignment.
by Punk Daddy » Fri Feb 01, 2013 3:55 pm
Cormac Stark wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:Not one of the people listed in the Committee is concerned with regional sovereignty. Rather, a group of elites and old mainstays got together and devised a way to amass even more power in NationStates. SovCon is the product of narrow self-interest.
Well, thank you for that. I don't know what I would do without UDL members to tell me what I'm thinking, what my motives are, and whether or not what I'm doing at any given time meets their rigorous standards of in-game morality. Clearly we are all terrible, power hungry people; I have seen the error of my ways and recant this sovereignty nonsense in favor of UDLimperialismcosmopolitanism.
by Unibot III » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:02 pm
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Klaus Devestatorie » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:20 pm
by The Blaatschapen » Fri Feb 01, 2013 4:22 pm
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Isn't it amazing how shitty we all get with each other when we make up our own ideologies?
by Feux » Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:36 pm
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:Isn't it amazing how shitty we all get with each other when we make up our own ideologies?
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by Whamabama » Fri Feb 01, 2013 8:31 pm
6: We will defend the right of GCRs to oppose the insidious creep of cosmopolitanism
by Unibot III » Fri Feb 01, 2013 9:01 pm
Whamabama wrote:6: We will defend the right of GCRs to oppose the insidious creep of cosmopolitanism
Does not say we will oppose the insidious creep of cosmopolitanism, just that we will defend the right of a GCR to do so. If the GCR does not wish to fight this, or doesn't even acknowledge that such a thing as cosmopolitanism even can exist. That's fine too. It's their explicit right to determine these things for themselves. What ever they decide, we will defend their choice.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Antariel » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:28 am
by Biyah » Sat Feb 02, 2013 1:41 am
Unibot III wrote:Whamabama wrote:
Does not say we will oppose the insidious creep of cosmopolitanism, just that we will defend the right of a GCR to do so. If the GCR does not wish to fight this, or doesn't even acknowledge that such a thing as cosmopolitanism even can exist. That's fine too. It's their explicit right to determine these things for themselves. What ever they decide, we will defend their choice.
Do you defend the right of GCRs to oppose the insidious creep of Regionalism?
by Unibot III » Sat Feb 02, 2013 2:57 am
So, Uni, do you respect a region’s free will and right of self-determination?
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Punk Reloaded » Sat Feb 02, 2013 10:57 am
Unibot III wrote:So, Uni, do you respect a region’s free will and right of self-determination?
Yes.*
* Note: a free will requires the restrictions of others (like yourself) from dominating and inferring in regions or else "freedom" as a concept collapses inward. Anarchy is not free, it is a brutish and shallow existence.
by Glen-Rhodes » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:29 am
Cormac Stark wrote:Glen-Rhodes wrote:Not one of the people listed in the Committee is concerned with regional sovereignty. Rather, a group of elites and old mainstays got together and devised a way to amass even more power in NationStates. SovCon is the product of narrow self-interest.
Well, thank you for that. I don't know what I would do without UDL members to tell me what I'm thinking, what my motives are, and whether or not what I'm doing at any given time meets their rigorous standards of in-game morality. Clearly we are all terrible, power hungry people; I have seen the error of my ways and recant this sovereignty nonsense in favor of UDLimperialismcosmopolitanism.
by Cerian Quilor » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:33 am
by Mahaj » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:44 am
Cerian Quilor wrote:If you aren't a member of the UDL, take it out of your signature.
<Koth> I'm still going by the assumption that Mahaj is Unibot's kid brother or something
Kandarin(Naivetry): You're going to have a great NS career ahead of you if you want it, Mahaj. :)
<@Eluvatar> Why is SkyDip such a purist raiderist
<+frattastan> Because his region was never raided.
<+maxbarry> EarthAway: I guess I might dabble in raiding just to experience it better, but I would not like to raid regions of natives, so I'd probably be more interested in defense and liberations
by The Blaatschapen » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:52 am
Cerian Quilor wrote:If you aren't a member of the UDL, take it out of your signature.
by Cerian Quilor » Sat Feb 02, 2013 11:54 am
by Lyanna Stark » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:02 pm
"Only one man in a thousand is a leader of men. The other 999 follow women." -Groucho Marx
Unibot: "I've turned you into a defender chick and you've turned me into a respectable human being!"
[11:12pm]Mahaj: omg i have earth's endo
[11:12pm] Mahaj: this is the proudest moment of my defending career
by Frattastan II » Sat Feb 02, 2013 12:03 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Please don't attempt to group me with some monolithic identity you can use as a way to dismiss people en mass.
<@Guy> well done, fuckhead.
* @Guy claps for frattastan
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