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Postby Cromarty » Thu Jun 06, 2013 3:08 pm

Liberum Veto wrote:
Akimonad wrote:I think the issue is that the Conclave process has frozen and needs to be killed.

There are two issues. Firstly, no one is able to get anywhere near the required margin of support required to be elected Chief of the Band, despite several attempts to change things to make that possible (removing inactive conclave members, allowing people to vote for multiple candidates, etc). A couple have come close at one point or another, but no one has ever made it. Secondly, there are two leading candidates in contention, both with significant vocal support and neither willing to drop out and endorse the other, though at this point there is no guarantee that would achieve anything.

And who might you be that is... ahem... so informed on the UDL Conclave? :eyebrow:
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Postby PrussianEmpire » Thu Jun 06, 2013 6:18 pm

Cromarty wrote:
Liberum Veto wrote:There are two issues. Firstly, no one is able to get anywhere near the required margin of support required to be elected Chief of the Band, despite several attempts to change things to make that possible (removing inactive conclave members, allowing people to vote for multiple candidates, etc). A couple have come close at one point or another, but no one has ever made it. Secondly, there are two leading candidates in contention, both with significant vocal support and neither willing to drop out and endorse the other, though at this point there is no guarantee that would achieve anything.

And who might you be that is... ahem... so informed on the UDL Conclave? :eyebrow:


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Postby Cromarty » Thu Jun 06, 2013 11:35 pm

PrussianEmpire wrote:
Cromarty wrote:And who might you be that is... ahem... so informed on the UDL Conclave? :eyebrow:


Mahaj once hit 72%. 75% is needed to be elected CoB, unless they have changed the rules.

I know the rules, I'm in the Conclave. I'm wondering who Liberum Veto is.
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Postby Eist » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:24 am

Cromarty wrote:
PrussianEmpire wrote:
Mahaj once hit 72%. 75% is needed to be elected CoB, unless they have changed the rules.

I know the rules, I'm in the Conclave. I'm wondering who Liberum Veto is.


You're back in UDL, then?
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Postby Cerian Quilor » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:18 pm

He's been back for a while.
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Postby Liberum Veto » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:01 pm

Cromarty wrote:
Liberum Veto wrote:There are two issues. Firstly, no one is able to get anywhere near the required margin of support required to be elected Chief of the Band, despite several attempts to change things to make that possible (removing inactive conclave members, allowing people to vote for multiple candidates, etc). A couple have come close at one point or another, but no one has ever made it. Secondly, there are two leading candidates in contention, both with significant vocal support and neither willing to drop out and endorse the other, though at this point there is no guarantee that would achieve anything.

And who might you be that is... ahem... so informed on the UDL Conclave? :eyebrow:

Someone who is sick and bloody tired of the conclave.

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Postby Solm » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:07 pm

Liberum Veto wrote:
Cromarty wrote:And who might you be that is... ahem... so informed on the UDL Conclave? :eyebrow:

Someone who is sick and bloody tired of the conclave.


If your in the Conclave, then you're free to end it :P

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Postby Sierra Lobo » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:03 am

Is the prolonged leaderless state of the UDL actually affecting its relevancy?
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Postby Tim-Opolis » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:01 am

Sierra Lobo wrote:Is the prolonged leaderless state of the UDL actually affecting its relevancy?


Well, it's meant less P.R messes for us... so I can't say I mind too much :p
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Postby Akimonad » Sat Jun 08, 2013 6:09 am

It's meant less PR in general, though. Has the UDL been doing anything lately? There haven't been any posts about successes and whatnot.
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Postby Mahaj » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:14 am

We've had successes, we just haven't really been trumping them up a lot.
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Postby Solm » Sat Jun 08, 2013 8:59 am

Sierra Lobo wrote:Is the prolonged leaderless state of the UDL actually affecting its relevancy?


The UDL is not leaderless. I have been the Chief of the Band since Unibot's departure and will continue in the duties of the Chief of the Band until the Conclave selects the next Chief of the Band. And I haven't put out any updates since I didn't think my tenure will be this long, but I will get an update post out soon since its been so long. But, don't be fooled, the UDL has been very busy every update.

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Postby PrussianEmpire » Sat Jun 08, 2013 12:17 pm

Solm wrote:
Sierra Lobo wrote:Is the prolonged leaderless state of the UDL actually affecting its relevancy?


The UDL is not leaderless. I have been the Chief of the Band since Unibot's departure and will continue in the duties of the Chief of the Band until the Conclave selects the next Chief of the Band. And I haven't put out any updates since I didn't think my tenure will be this long, but I will get an update post out soon since its been so long. But, don't be fooled, the UDL has been very busy every update.


Cant wait for those post. I always found Uni's to be entertaining and hopefully yours will be of similar quality!

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Postby Cromarty » Sat Jun 08, 2013 1:20 pm

Eist wrote:
Cromarty wrote:I know the rules, I'm in the Conclave. I'm wondering who Liberum Veto is.


You're back in UDL, then?

Since... the 18th of March.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sat Jun 08, 2013 7:45 pm

Why can't I enter the IRC?
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Postby Solm » Mon Jun 10, 2013 1:30 pm

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United Defenders League - General Update - June 10th 2013



Wait wait what? An update post not by some incarnation of Unibot!? No Unibot II or III or IV!? What on earth has happened?!
Well, for those of you who have been residing in some backwater for the past three month, Unibot is off enjoying his life and you're stuck with...Solm. Rumours have floated around that Solm may actually be the reincarnation of Goobergunchia, but so far we have found no proof of this. Nonetheless, the United Defenders League has survived the departure of our glorious founder and hopes to be back on the field and beating up raiderscum, using our absolute moral authority ;) , until the end of [violet].

Now, you might be wondering why you haven't been getting doused with glorious UDL propaganda since before Unibot poofed. Some people might claim that it's because we've been too busy infiltrating feeders, and other treacherous stuff like that. As cool as that might be, those people are incorrect. The actual reason is because we've been electing a new Unibo *cough* Chief of the Band and Solm did not think his tenure, as Interim Chief, would last this long! But, now it has become obvious that this Conclave thing will continue on until Max Barry holds the next Maxchat. For those of you who do not know, we have modeled our election system after the Papal Conclave. We have been voting every Monday, Wednesday, and Friday and updating the nation of Smoke after each update with either black or white smoke. Obviously, since we haven't elected a new Pope yet, it's been black.. The early votes were hotly contested, but as the second week of voting started, frontrunners emerged. Leading the pack was Evil Wolf! His platform consisted of some UDLer posting, "EVIL WOLF IS EBIL. VOTE FOR HIM!" But, then some people went, "Wait a minute here, he smells!" And then the collective UDL put its noses out and smelled Evil Wolf. He did indeed... smell. Since the second week his votes have left him second to last, with Durkadurkiranistan holding last.. As Evil Wolf's lead dwindled, the next frontrunner emerged: Spartzerium! For those who aren't familiar with Spartz, he was the original UDL Chief Lieutenant and then "left" to go join TBH and has raided ever since. Since Unibot's departure, the classified intel department of the UDL was declassified which consisted of a single document that said, "We have no spies. So I decided to switch to get some intel for us. ~ Spartz" Upon the reveal of this document, tens of UDLers swarmed the Conclave polls and voted for Spartz. However, even this was not enough to get 75% of the conclave to vote for him.

Spartz has been falling from the lead since then, with certain candidates such as Halcones and the ghost of Francos Spain suddenly surging ahead in the polls. It's less of a Papal Conclave and more of a Horse Race, ladies and Gentlemen! Another nomination suggested the UDL just be absorbed back into the FRA. The latter has received a good amount of support, but not Spartz levels. Anyways, the Conclave has been going on for months now and I felt that the world needed an update from the UDL's interim Chief of the Band (that's Solm!) so they could get their dose of UDL news and huggles.

Who doesn't love a good huggle?

Nobody, that's right! Everyone loves a good huggle! *huggles* Well, except those raiderscum. Apparently huggles are verboten there.

So what has the UDL been up to in these past few months on the battlefield? Well, We've detagged over 115 regions, defended countless others, sometimes defending up to 4 out of every 5 raider attempts! One of our largest defenses occurred just a week ago!Discordia, where a combined defender force of the UDL, TITO, FRA, and SDF was able to boost the native to 28 endos, while the raider peaked at a mere 17. We awarded our members with this beautiful medal upon the successful completion of the Discordia mission.

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We have also been incredibly busy liberating! The South Pacific was a big shock to all of us, but the UDL did its best to contribute to its liberation effort, supplying sleepers and updaters to the effort. Shortly after TSP was freed, we liberated Furrry Federation with FRA, TITO, and the SDF. We were also busy in the torpedojaggers and natan region annexation (among the more notable regions from our operations). Our huge thanks goes out to the FRA, TITO, and the SDF as their assistance has been critical in the success of the majority of our operations. We work together with the FRA every update, and their assistance is vital to our success and the cooperation between the UDL and the FRA has sent countless raiders off to the Rejected Realms. Furthermore with the assistance of TITO, the SDF, and others, we have been able to succeed with huge defender forces in operations, such as Discordia. To the FRA, TITO, and the SDF, our thanks goes out to you, and we look forward to continuing our cooperation with all of you! Perhaps whatever term we've been using for Defenders working together isn't so dead afterall ;)

In terms of the UDL, we have been quite busy lately. Since the conclave has gone on so long, we have decided to begin our plans for change under the interim administration while we wait for a permanent Chief. Just recently, we have appointed several new Chiefs. Luna (Flowering Staplers) was appointed to Chief of Culture, and will hopefully be making cookies for the rest of the Leadership. Campinia was promoted to Chief of Intelligence. We're not sure what he's going to be doing there, as it's classified, but it's probably more than the last Chief did! Tim was appointed to Chief of Foreign Affairs, quite the difficult task, but we're sure he'll do exemplary. Also, Ravania was promoted to Captain, a new military position to coordinate and orchestrate our military efforts, akin to a Chief of Military Affairs. We have also promoted Sovreignry and Ravania to Update Heads! We hope these changes will help bring the UDL into even higher heights, improving our coordination and update skills. Congratulations to all of the new appointments, and we wish them best of luck in their endeavors!

We are also revamping our Orientation and Recruiting departments, and will have updates about those soon. Also, we've even gained some new Merrymen to join us on the field! Last but not least, change is definitely coming to the concepts behind Militia, Merryman, and Senior Merryman. Some may be big, some may be small, and some might just piss people off, but they'll be coming and hopefully they'll be successful. Although we all know you want to know more, we're going to take one out of the River Song playbook and respond with " spoilers ;) "

Hopefully we will get a new Chief of the Band soon, as basically everyone is tired of having to pick up Solm's soda cans for him. It's been a busy few months, and hopefully the next few months will be even busier.
And lastly, your wonderful moment of zen, hand-picked as a departing gift from Unibot:

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That's all Folks,
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Postby Drop Your Pants » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:11 am

To the FRA, TITO, and the SDF, our thanks goes out to you, and we look forward to continuing our cooperation with all of you! Perhaps whatever term we've been using for Defenders working together isn't so dead afterall

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Postby Tramiar » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:12 am

Solm wrote:Upon the reveal of this document, tens of UDLers swarmed the Conclave polls and voted for Spartz. However, even this was not enough to get 75% of the conclave to vote for him.

Your one chance at the best candidate, and you didn't even choose him? Sometimes I question the intelligence of the UDL.

Solm wrote:Campinia was promoted to Chief of Intelligence. We're not sure what he's going to be doing there

I would hope he's going to be making your group more intelligent.

Solm wrote:Everyone loves a good huggle! *huggles* Well, except those raiderscum. Apparently huggles are verboten there.

You're a little confused. Just because no one wants to huggle you doesn't mean they don't at all. ;)
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Postby Evil Lord Sauron » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:28 am

To the FRA, TITO, and the SDF, our thanks goes out to you, and we look forward to continuing our cooperation with all of you! Perhaps whatever term we've been using for Defenders working together isn't so dead afterall


It's dead. You excluded Mordor.
Come and join Mordor

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Postby Solm » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:22 am

Evil Lord Sauron wrote:
To the FRA, TITO, and the SDF, our thanks goes out to you, and we look forward to continuing our cooperation with all of you! Perhaps whatever term we've been using for Defenders working together isn't so dead afterall


It's dead. You excluded Mordor.


I did not. Read between the lines, Evil Lord! Read between the lines!

For all those who do not have the all-seeing eye of the Evil Lord Sauron: Mordor was exceptional in providing support in many of our operations, including almost all of he notable ones I listed in the update, and well beyond that.

COE: y u no wanna huggle me!?!?!?!?? I DONT SMELL LIKE EVIL WOLF!

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Postby Mahaj » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:50 am

Solm wrote:
Evil Lord Sauron wrote:
It's dead. You excluded Mordor.


I did not. Read between the lines, Evil Lord! Read between the lines!

For all those who do not have the all-seeing eye of the Evil Lord Sauron: Mordor was exceptional in providing support in many of our operations, including almost all of he notable ones I listed in the update, and well beyond that.

COE: y u no wanna huggle me!?!?!?!?? I DONT SMELL LIKE EVIL WOLF!

I think that was Tram, not COE.
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Postby Solm » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:03 pm

Mahaj wrote:
Solm wrote:
I did not. Read between the lines, Evil Lord! Read between the lines!

For all those who do not have the all-seeing eye of the Evil Lord Sauron: Mordor was exceptional in providing support in many of our operations, including almost all of he notable ones I listed in the update, and well beyond that.

COE: y u no wanna huggle me!?!?!?!?? I DONT SMELL LIKE EVIL WOLF!

I think that was Tram, not COE.


Damn. They all have the same flags. Well then, Tramiar. Why do you not want to huggle me?

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Postby Cromarty » Tue Jun 11, 2013 2:58 pm

Because you smell funny and come from Illinois.
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Postby Solm » Tue Jun 11, 2013 3:30 pm

Cromarty wrote:Because you smell funny and come from Illinois.


As long as you like funny smelling people from Illinois, then its fine by me.

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Postby PrussianEmpire » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:00 pm

Not quite as entertaining as Uni's, but good job. I'm impressed with UDL/TITO cooperation.
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