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Estenia wrote:

Themiclesia wrote:
You know, because the phrase that Giga wanted translated is from a motto of the Adeptus Astartes from WH40K, and it resembles what I'd call a "general maxim". Besides, the English construction "let X something" translates the Greek third person imperative.

Something like μηδεῖς ζήτω

It's ancient Greek, my canadian friend.

Themiclesia wrote:

Estenia wrote:It's ancient Greek, my canadian friend.

Still Greek

Estenia wrote:

Themiclesia wrote:Still Greek

Huge differece.

Themiclesia wrote:Well, the Latin participle system is definitely a far cry from what is postulated to have existed in the past, as I now realized after some preliminary reading. It does not have the middle participles characteristic of IE languages, as Grk. -men- and Sanskr. -mana-, or the perfect active participles reconstructed in -wo- and -us-, but it does have the -t- participle, which originally may have been a verbal adjective... as it is in Greek in -te- + second declension endings.

Themiclesia wrote:

Naivetry wrote:Yep. Or possibly, Cum hostes in urbem intrent... Latin has fewer options for how to express these things than Greek - a fact which annoyed Roman writers to no end.

So that type of subordinate clause takes Cum + subjunctive, right? Adverbial Cum.

Naivetry wrote:

Themiclesia wrote:Well, the Latin participle system is definitely a far cry from what is postulated to have existed in the past, as I now realized after some preliminary reading. It does not have the middle participles characteristic of IE languages, as Grk. -men- and Sanskr. -mana-, or the perfect active participles reconstructed in -wo- and -us-, but it does have the -t- participle, which originally may have been a verbal adjective... as it is in Greek in -te- + second declension endings.

This does not, however, stop Roman poets from occasionally using passive verb forms (including not only perfect passive participles but also finite verbs) as if they had a middle voice. For which I blame Greek.

Themiclesia wrote:So that type of subordinate clause takes Cum + subjunctive, right? Adverbial Cum.

Yep. Though I've not heard it called adverbial cum; it's really a conjunction (archaic form quom). In this case, I'd tell my students it was cum causal (rather than circumstantial or concessive/adversative).

Estenia wrote:

Themiclesia wrote:Still Greek

Huge differece.

SuperFruitLand wrote:The fruit shall rise again.

plz translate

Arcturus Novus wrote:Finally, a place where I can apply classics!

Also, just to be safe, is "Gens Oryzae praevalebit" the proper translation of my current motto? I just want to be sure, I haven't taken Latin classes in over a year.

Grangeco wrote:The land of three seas

Themiclesia wrote:

Grangeco wrote:The land of three seas

Ea terra trium marium

Astrolinium wrote:

Themiclesia wrote:Ea terra trium marium

Just Terra Trium Marium.

Never translate articles, as Latin does not have them, except in special cases where it would warrant something like ille (e.g. Hobbitus Ille, aut Illuc atque Rursus Retrorsum, because it's actually an important distinction to make that he is, in fact, a specific hobbit).

Themiclesia wrote:

Astrolinium wrote:
Just Terra Trium Marium.

Never translate articles, as Latin does not have them, except in special cases where it would warrant something like ille (e.g. Hobbitus Ille, aut Illuc atque Rursus Retrorsum, because it's actually an important distinction to make that he is, in fact, a specific hobbit).

I suppose that this land of three seas is a reference to the country itself, and therefore appears to me to be logical to be translated with an article...

Astrolinium wrote:

Themiclesia wrote:I suppose that this land of three seas is a reference to the country itself, and therefore appears to me to be logical to be translated with an article...

Well, Latin doesn't have an article, so it's erroneous to put a personal pronoun in its place like you have. You'd never see that in classical style, which is what we try to emulate here.

Themiclesia wrote:

Astrolinium wrote:
Well, Latin doesn't have an article, so it's erroneous to put a personal pronoun in its place like you have. You'd never see that in classical style, which is what we try to emulate here.

I wasn't under the impression that Latin had personal pronouns in the third person at all, and this usage would seem more demonstrative to me than pronominal.

Astrolinium wrote:

Themiclesia wrote:I wasn't under the impression that Latin had personal pronouns in the third person at all, and this usage would seem more demonstrative to me than pronominal.

I mean, just like ego or tu they're mostly used intensively since the subject is in the verb. You might say, Marco pilis ludere placet, sed sorori eius gladiis ludere placet: is ergo pilis ludet et ea gladiis.

Nordic States and Territories wrote:With no understanding of latin, I use google translate to make cool latin mottos. I don't want to be that person that uses google translate for mottos.

The motto I have currently is, "Pluribus, est de Unum". I don't know how much sense it makes, but what I'm looking for is, "Many, under one", or more literally, "Individuals united under one common entity". Is my current motto suitable, or need it be reworked?

Thanks

Vojislav wrote:Peace, Strength, Prosperity?

HMS Unicorn wrote:Hey there masters of latin, I had a couple of requests. How would you translate:

1) "Beauty in truth".
2) "Home is where the heart is".

Thanks in advance!

Cinnabarra wrote:Hello ! Could you translate "United in Diversity", please ?

Thanks in advance !