NS History: You've Got Questions, We've Got Answers!

[Ananke II]

There was the time Corinthe would've become delegate if Neut hadn't ordered everyone out of the Pacific before update.

[Reploid Productions]

And of course, the "great glitch," and that whole thing.

Ugh, don't remind me. That pain in everyone's ass has irreversibly been linked in my head with close to a full week of sleep deprivation due to a wildfire in my area around the same time. Between the fire related stress and lack of sleep and the shitstorm over that damned glitch, I was very, very close to doing something extremely un-modly. The Bastard Mod version that saved my sanity is still preserved though.

[The Republic of Lanos]

I'm amazed by a puppeteer doing a few thousand nations. I mean all that effort to hate the site...

[Reploid Productions]

I'm amazed by a puppeteer doing a few thousand nations. I mean all that effort to hate the site...

It wasn't even that; all he did was create shittons of nations, use them to take over regions, and classically grief them (boot everybody, changed the WFE to link to some national socialist site or other, hence the nickname "National Socialist griefer.") Our toolset was a lot more primitive, so at the time we had to manually watch for him and try to catch him before he could do much damage. He must have carried on for weeks before we got the admin to block him.

[Mahaj]

I'm amazed by a puppeteer doing a few thousand nations. I mean all that effort to hate the site...

Making the nations themselves isn't that hard though, although maintaining them alone would be a chore without some scripting help.

I used to be able to make a thousand nations in ten minutes, but violet got mad and banned that.

[Blackbird]

I'm amazed by a puppeteer doing a few thousand nations. I mean all that effort to hate the site...

Moreover ... this was a time when there a lack of centralized communication in NS. That is, as was well known to most of us back then, the official NS boards ("the big boards") were horribly slow. So now many of us knew about it, except that all of a sudden hundreds of Nazi nations poured into a region.

NS was so different back then. It really felt more like the wild west, because you would hear whisperings of invasions and griefings, but unless you actually saw them, there was really no way of knowing about it. People didn't post on the big boards; there was no efficient way to track the goings-on of NS. That was one of the reasons for regions to form alliances and defend each other.

[Ikania]

What is this great glitch I hear of?

[Reploid Productions]

What is this great glitch I hear of?

Long story short, assuming I recall the details correctly, the update cocked up for some reason in late October 2003, which left a number of regions (most notably the Pacific) without a delegate. Anti-Francos folks tried to pounce on the opportunity, but the mod team decided that profiting from a glitch was not cool (much as I, among others, wanted to see him overthrown,) and prevented it. There was, of course, a shitstorm about it, and although our decision was later overruled by [violet] and she instructed us not to try and fix things for gameplay in the event of future such glitches, she didn't re-create the delegate-less situation, so the anti-Francos folks were still unable to capitalize on it.

Crazy to think how different that region might have been if we'd just gone "Meh, too bad, so sad, good luck keeping your delegacy without being able to kickban ALL OF THE THINGS!" In hindsight, I rather wish that's what we had done. But hey, none of us even had a full year under our belts yet as mods, and trying to sort Gameplay to block the worst abuses without killing R/D was something of an impossible juggling act.

[Ikania]

Now I feel really bad for missing out on NS history. I only joined last year, and I only started getting into GP almost a year in when I got to Lazarus. It's like I lived under a rock while Milo took over TSP, Gatesville disappeared, etc.
(And yes, I was around for that contrary to what my nation founding date may tell you.)

Next question: What's the Kemetic Republic and this Empire I keep hearing about in Lazarus?

[Alyekra]

Now I feel really bad for missing out on NS history. I only joined last year, and I only started getting into GP almost a year in when I got to Lazarus. It's like I lived under a rock while Milo took over TSP, Gatesville disappeared, etc.
(And yes, I was around for that contrary to what my nation founding date may tell you.)

Next question: What's the Kemetic Republic and this Empire I keep hearing about in Lazarus?

The Kemetic Republic was a regime that used to run Osiris. I'm not sure what the Empire is.

[Ikania]

Now I feel really bad for missing out on NS history. I only joined last year, and I only started getting into GP almost a year in when I got to Lazarus. It's like I lived under a rock while Milo took over TSP, Gatesville disappeared, etc.
(And yes, I was around for that contrary to what my nation founding date may tell you.)

Next question: What's the Kemetic Republic and this Empire I keep hearing about in Lazarus?

The Kemetic Republic was a regime that used to run Osiris. I'm not sure what the Empire is.

Was it a good regime?

[Alyekra]

The Kemetic Republic was a regime that used to run Osiris. I'm not sure what the Empire is.

Was it a good regime? :p

I don't think so. IDK much about GCR politics.

[Frattastan II]

The Empire was the regime set up in The East Pacific after Lady Phedre's coup in 2008.
Since then, the term has been used to describe the loose group of players who led that effort.

They (especially high-profile members: Biyah, Dalimbar, New Kervoskia, Neenee are the ones mentioned most frequently) have been involved in other GCRs in the following years and have been accused of trying/tried to subvert them: infiltrate their political systems, destabilize their governments, take control 'behind the scenes' with questionable tactics.

Biyah and Dali were high-up in Osiris until the estabilishment of the OFO (when Venico banned them for their actions in the region until then).

The Kemetic Republic was the first regime of Osiris, estabilished by the first players to 'settle' in the region. Since late 2012 it came under increasing criticism of having a flawed constitution, being organised to favour a small clique, ridden with infighting and ever more instable (various coups). It was dissolved in September 2013 during the delegacy of Detective Figs (Asta), and eventually replaced with the OFO when the reform process stalled (due to a number of problems inherited from the KRO, including the presence of Empire members).

[Ikania]

Okay, I still have a few questions.

1. Who is Detective Figs? I caught Sev Montresor on the Osi IRC who said it was him/her. In the TRT article about Biyah's banning it said it was controlled by Venico. And I'm also hearing it was Koth. All I remember is that there was something about flemingovianism.

2. So would the OFO be justified in banning Kerv and Dali because of regional security? They were a pleasure to work with during my time in Laz.

[DWAsnia]

IIRC The Empire was who ruled Osiris before the OFO (Who is in control right now)

[Frattastan II]

1. Who is Detective Figs? I caught Sev Montresor on the Osi IRC who said it was him/her. In the TRT article about Biyah's banning it said it was controlled by Venico. And I'm also hearing it was Koth. All I remember is that there was something about flemingovianism.

It was Astarial's nation. She created it, it was her identity/name in Osiris and she became delegate with that nation when Cormac resigned in August 2013. The Flemingovian Empire thing was one of the various WFE themes she used.

When she quit Osi she handed the nation over to Koth (so that her successor as delegate, Venico, would have someone trustworthy and with a high-influence nation to protect him from the destabilization efforts which had plagued her delegacy - it proved useful later on).

I am not sure when the next handover happened exactly, but then Koth gave the nation to Sev, who controls it right now and has been delegate with it for a term (so he is Detective Figs, pretty much).

[Tano]

IIRC The Empire was who ruled Osiris before the OFO (Who is in control right now)

They were most famous for couping and controlling TEP several several years ago.

[Ikania]

1. Who is Detective Figs? I caught Sev Montresor on the Osi IRC who said it was him/her. In the TRT article about Biyah's banning it said it was controlled by Venico. And I'm also hearing it was Koth. All I remember is that there was something about flemingovianism.

It was Astarial's nation. She created it, it was her identity/name in Osiris and she became delegate with that nation when Cormac resigned in August 2013. The Flemingovian Empire thing was one of the various WFE themes she used.

When she quit Osi she handed the nation over to Koth (so that her successor as delegate, Venico, would have someone trustworthy and with a high-influence nation to protect him from the destabilization efforts which had plagued her delegacy - it proved useful later on).

I am not sure when the next handover happened exactly, but then Koth gave the nation to Sev, who controls it right now and has been delegate with it for a term (so he is Detective Figs, pretty much).

I see.

I'm not going to stop asking because this thread is a great source for information. I heard that Milograd couped TSP a while back, and that he went crazy with banjecting for about a week until his influence ran out. Any reason why he did it? It's hard to believe that the wise, friendly founder of the PRL (which is now... not so wise and friendly) did something like that.

[Black Mekhet]

IIRC The Empire was who ruled Osiris before the OFO (Who is in control right now)

The Empire didn't rule KRO, corrupted the fuck out of it yes, ruled no. Even Biyah didn't always get his way.

There was once a good time in the KRO days, when I founded it.

[Benevolent Thomas]

I heard that Milograd couped TSP a while back, and that he went crazy with banjecting for about a week until his influence ran out. Any reason why he did it? It's hard to believe that the wise, friendly founder of the PRL (which is now... not so wise and friendly) did something like that.

That happened in the first half of 2013 (maybe March?). I'm trying to remember how long it lasted for, but I no longer have access to the records that would give a definite answer (maybe 10 days?). IIRC he had grown to no longer care for the region and that was the driving force behind the coup. He had grown pretty tired of NS entirely most likely as he would then go on a hiatus that lasted a few months and even tried a few small projects before really emerging again in Lazarus.

[Cormac A Stark]

I am not sure when the next handover happened exactly, but then Koth gave the nation to Sev, who controls it right now and has been delegate with it for a term (so he is Detective Figs, pretty much).

The next handover occurred after Lord Ravenclaw was elected on 22 January to succeed Venico and Koth as Pharaoh, so that Detective Figs (the nation) could remain on the Atef (Security Council) with its high influence but Koth could return to WA mobility. At the time, we had no Security Council, so it was fairly vital for Detective Figs to remain high influence with high endorsements. The nation is no longer in the WA as we have an established Security Council now and it's no longer needed, and as Fratt said it remains in Sev's possession as his nation in Osiris.

We now sometimes refer to Asta as "Detective Figs I," as she preferred to be called Detective Figs rather than Asta during her time in Osiris. Duality weirdos.

In regard to Milograd's coup of TSP, it was late April if I recall correctly. It was definitely April though because I remember it being after the various April Fools jokes.

[Arcadian Sovereignty]

I have just come across a problem that isn't som much one if everyone is fully into and knowledgable about FT RP... but not everyone is.
What are the standard guidlines and rules towards the use and development of factbooks (ect.) about WMD and NBC weaponry?
And what about naval fleets for marine and void (space) combat?

If you could at some point help me... thanks

[Applebania]

I have just come across a problem that isn't som much one if everyone is fully into and knowledgable about FT RP... but not everyone is.
What are the standard guidlines and rules towards the use and development of factbooks (ect.) about WMD and NBC weaponry?
And what about naval fleets for marine and void (space) combat?

If you could at some point help me... thanks

Ask in one of the RP forums.

[District XIV]

I have just come across a problem that isn't som much one if everyone is fully into and knowledgable about FT RP... but not everyone is.
What are the standard guidlines and rules towards the use and development of factbooks (ect.) about WMD and NBC weaponry?
And what about naval fleets for marine and void (space) combat?

If you could at some point help me... thanks

Ask in one of the RP forums.

Specifically here and maybe here.

[Indian Empire]

Who is the shortest reign delegate in Nationstates history?