Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Valrifell]

I rather welcome these new changes, actually. I welcome all changes that add something to the game (without taking away anything substantial), even though 9/10 times these changes are skewed to give Defenders and Natives the biggest advantage.

No, Neph, everything is part of the secret Raider Conspiracy Hivemind. EVERYTHING the Admins put in are directly to benefit Raiders and Raiders alone.

EVERYTHING.

[King Nephmir II]

Neph, turn off your damn mind control and let me go already. First I actually do take down TBR, now this? I'm not your pawn anymore goddammit!

Next will be the founder coup of TBH and then we're all set!

[Revall]

Neph, turn off your damn mind control and let me go already. First I actually do take down TBR, now this? I'm not your pawn anymore goddammit!

Next will be the founder coup of TBH and then we're all set!

Is that why Souls has been working hard ascending the ranks of TBH?

Who knew the Eternal Dream would be fulfilled by the once estranged protégé

[Valrifell]

Next will be the founder coup of TBH and then we're all set!

Is that why Souls has been working hard ascending the ranks of TBH?

Who knew the Eternal Dream would be fulfilled by the once estranged protégé

I guess Souls is the only one that matters. ;-;

[We Are Not the NSA]

To be accurate, UnitedGermanRegions is the one that 'took down' TBR.
I ought to remember, I was the one trying to scrape together a defense against him and his collective of TBR victims.

To be accurate, I emptied it out and removed the presence of "a TBR," whomever led it, to whatever ideals I may not have taken down the Raider TBR, but I took down the UGR TBR Close enough to Nephmir's plans for us knights once upon a time to be a little freaky

Late to this conversation, but if UGR took down the OG TBR, and you took down the TIR TBR, does that mean my password took down TBR permanently?

[Tea Drinking Brits]

Hey all.

[Consular]

To be accurate, I emptied it out and removed the presence of "a TBR," whomever led it, to whatever ideals I may not have taken down the Raider TBR, but I took down the UGR TBR Close enough to Nephmir's plans for us knights once upon a time to be a little freaky

Late to this conversation, but if UGR took down the OG TBR, and you took down the TIR TBR, does that mean my password took down TBR permanently?

Your damn sig still makes me feel marginally salty, NSA.

[Luxdonia]

Hey all.

Hello there!

Anyway, has anything happened of note in GP during my inactivity?

[We Are Not the NSA]

Late to this conversation, but if UGR took down the OG TBR, and you took down the TIR TBR, does that mean my password took down TBR permanently?

Your damn sig still makes me feel marginally salty, NSA.

NSA is my name, shamelessly trumpeting my minor partial victories is my game.

[Valrifell]

Hey all.

Hello there!

Anyway, has anything happened of note in GP during my inactivity?

Other than my lack of presence? No, just the usual shenanigans.

[Consular]

So who will be claiming Christmas this year? I notice Ravania has appointed one of his puppets as RO.

[Ambroscus Koth]

So who will be claiming Christmas this year? I notice Ravania has appointed one of his puppets as RO.

Yeah, looks like he gave up the idea of defenders not being kleptomaniacs who know what's best for the natives even if they didn't ask for their help.

At least raiders never claim to care.

[Belschaft]

I don't want to be one of those clichéd annoying people who post a long, rambling goodbye thread in NSGP only to show up again a week later, so I'll keep this short and simple; I'm taking a vacation from NS. It's been fun guys, most of you are awesome. If anyone catches sight of me on the site, IRC or regional forums between now and 2016 please give me a good arsekicking until I go away again. I've quit the WA and set this nation to vacation mode, and my others will all be CTE'ing.

So long and thanks for all the fish.

[Kaboomlandia]

Good luck.

[Tim-Opolis]

So who will be claiming Christmas this year? I notice Ravania has appointed one of his puppets as RO.

Yeah, looks like he gave up the idea of defenders not being kleptomaniacs who know what's best for the natives even if they didn't ask for their help.

At least raiders never claim to care.

That's a bit of a stretch, given that he's been in Christmas for so long that he's basically native and given how 99% of Christmas is made up of puppets from one side or another. Plus, it's still raidable, ain't it?

[Cormac Stark]

That's a bit of a stretch, given that he's been in Christmas for so long that he's basically native and given how 99% of Christmas is made up of puppets from one side or another. Plus, it's still raidable, ain't it?

He isn't native anymore than raiders who have been sitting there for three years are native. He's a defender, and now, having taken the Delegacy and appointed himself an RO without native consent, he's a defender who is hypocritically raiding. So to answer Consular's question, it appears Ravania and the UDL will be the Christmas raiders this year.

[Wordy]

I don't want to be one of those clichéd annoying people who post a long, rambling goodbye thread in NSGP only to show up again a week later, so I'll keep this short and simple; I'm taking a vacation from NS. It's been fun guys, most of you are awesome. If anyone catches sight of me on the site, IRC or regional forums between now and 2016 please give me a good arsekicking until I go away again. I've quit the WA and set this nation to vacation mode, and my others will all be CTE'ing.

So long and thanks for all the fish.

Great Vacation to you Bels.

[Ravania Ultra]

That's a bit of a stretch, given that he's been in Christmas for so long that he's basically native and given how 99% of Christmas is made up of puppets from one side or another. Plus, it's still raidable, ain't it?

He isn't native anymore than raiders who have been sitting there for three years are native. He's a defender, and now, having taken the Delegacy and appointed himself an RO without native consent, he's a defender who is hypocritically raiding. So to answer Consular's question, it appears Ravania and the UDL will be the Christmas raiders this year.

It was made RO to detag... as long as this loophole exists both sides will use it to tag and detag. I even asked in technical for an option to resign. Using it to defend is rather a silly idea. I tried a few times to prevent tag-raids by using an RO, by the time you switch to the right nation and open the admin-page, you're way to late.

[The Silver Sentinel]

He isn't native anymore than raiders who have been sitting there for three years are native. He's a defender, and now, having taken the Delegacy and appointed himself an RO without native consent, he's a defender who is hypocritically raiding. So to answer Consular's question, it appears Ravania and the UDL will be the Christmas raiders this year.

It was made RO to detag... as long as this loophole exists both sides will use it to tag and detag. I even asked in technical for an option to resign. Using it to defend is rather a silly idea. I tried a few times to prevent tag-raids by using an RO, by the time you switch to the right nation and open the admin-page, you're way to late.

Cormac's version of the events was more entertaining. He really should be up for some drama award or something.

[Cormac Stark]

It was made RO to detag... as long as this loophole exists both sides will use it to tag and detag. I even asked in technical for an option to resign. Using it to defend is rather a silly idea. I tried a few times to prevent tag-raids by using an RO, by the time you switch to the right nation and open the admin-page, you're way to late.

Cormac's version of the events was more entertaining. He really should be up for some drama award or something.

My "version of the events" is still the case. Regardless of the reasons, Ravania remains a self-appointed Regional Officer in Christmas -- and apparently other regions, if this tactic is being used to detag -- without native consent.

[The Silver Sentinel]

Cormac's version of the events was more entertaining. He really should be up for some drama award or something.

My "version of the events" is still the case. Regardless of the reasons, Ravania remains a self-appointed Regional Officer in Christmas -- and apparently other regions, if this tactic is being used to detag -- without native consent.

Please tell me when "native" rights have ever meant shit to you?

[Cormac Stark]

Please tell me when "native" rights have ever meant shit to you?

Never, which is why I'm not the hypocrite here.

But as an aside, Christmas was annexed by Asgard in 2012 and we never relinquished our claim to it, so technically the UDL is invading our protectorate right now. Tsk tsk.

[Morndul]

Regardless of the reasons, Ravania remains a self-appointed Regional Officer in Christmas -- and apparently other regions, if this tactic is being used to detag -- without native consent.

Please tell me when "native" rights have ever meant shit to you?

Never, which is why I'm not the hypocrite here.

By this logic, isn't taking the delegacy to detag also hypocritical? Isn't detagging impossible to do ethically by this logic?

And honestly, do raiders never see the implicit hypocrisy in this self-righteous "defenders are hypocrites because they care about things *winky face*" posturing? I mean, in this case you even literally put a winking face there. I'm not misrepresenting your argument, am I? You are literally saying that Ravania is a hypocrite because he (a) cares about natives' rights and (b) has appointed himself regional officer for any reason (therefore, the fact that said reason is detagging doesn't matter)?

[Direwolf Defender]

You didn't fuss about defender imperialism in Christmas last year when I took the delegacy for a few weeks with SDF support, possibly because you were a defender at that time... And you were the one posting the thread asking SDF members to endorse me...

[Unibot III]

What would Christmas be without the usual family feud over who gets Christmas. At this point it's no different than fighting over who puts the angel on the tree.