NATION

PASSWORD

The Black Hawks News

Talk about regional management and politics, raider/defender gameplay, and other game-related matters.
Not a roleplaying forum.
User avatar
Commander Halcones
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 164
Founded: Oct 30, 2008
Ex-Nation

The Black Hawks News

Postby Commander Halcones » Sat Aug 20, 2011 4:27 am

I have opened this topic to include any news TBH members wish to post on the region and its successes, so from now on, if we ever wish to claim a victory on the NS forums, it shall be kept to this topic, rather than making multiple topics for multiple victories.

So here's goes,

20th August, 2011, Major update

Last update, 3 raider organisations, The Black Hawks, The New Inquisition and The Black Riders, mounted an effort to bring bloodshed across NationStates right through the two hour update. It started with the 3 raider orgs all working as one - tremendous success with the first hits, with WA delegates overthrown, and fendas annihilated.

Later, The Black Riders branched off, whilst The Black Hawks and The New Inquisition continued to battle the fendas and claim many victims in their path. In total, 5 regions were claimed. Many delegates overthrown. A notable success in Lost, with a WA delegate almost 4 years in power finally overthrown. The Black Hawks achieved a best timing of 5 seconds, despite variance on update calculations oscillating through the update. Together, the 3 raider groups alternated. TBH led some, TNI led others, and TBR led the attack on Lost. This was a great show of raider unity. As The Black Riders branched off, fendas struggled to cope, being tied in knots. In one case, the fendas were moving back and forth between two regions under attack simulateneously. In somes cases, The Black Hawks coordinated its raids to be at the same time as those of The Black Riders. Fendas only showed up in one, showing that they are only capable of chasing one raider unit.

Full list of victims:

Farkistan Led by TBH
Lost Led by TBR, timing coordinated by TBH
Everon Led by TNI, timing coordinated by TBH
Epic land Led by TBH
The Compassionate Overlords Led by TBH - 5 second timing

Troops involved were Commander Halcones, and Tramiar. The Black Hawks wish to thank their friends The New Inquisition and The Black Riders.

A splendid show of raider unity.

User avatar
Sedgistan
Site Director
 
Posts: 35473
Founded: Oct 20, 2006
Anarchy

Postby Sedgistan » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:28 am

Was Farkistan not a raider region many years ago? And was its delegate (Krankor) not also a former delegate of The Land of Kings and Emperors (see their history page). Just seems odd for raider groups - in particular TNI, which is allied with The LKE, to be targeting that region.

User avatar
Whiskum
Diplomat
 
Posts: 552
Founded: Apr 10, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Whiskum » Sat Aug 20, 2011 6:00 am

Sedgistan wrote:Was Farkistan not a raider region many years ago? And was its delegate (Krankor) not also a former delegate of The Land of Kings and Emperors (see their history page). Just seems odd for raider groups - in particular TNI, which is allied with The LKE, to be targeting that region.

Lapsed loyalties do not hold much sway with us.
Emperor Emeritus of The Land of Kings and Emperors
King Emeritus of Norwood, Basileus Emeritus of Polis, etc.

Prince of Jomsborg, of Balder

Archduke, of The New Inquisition
Viscount, of Great Britain and Ireland
Honoured Citizen of Europeia
Emperor of the LKE
LKE Prime Minister
LKE Chief of the Imperial General Staff

Crown Prince of TNI
Commander of TNI Armed Forces
Director General of TNI Intelligence

Vice Delegate and Crown Prince of Balder
Balder Statsminister
Balder Chief of Defence

GB&I Home Secretary
GB&I First Sea Lord

Chief Justice of Europeia

Member, Imperial Military Council, UIAF
Supreme Allied Commander, SRATO

WA Delegate of The Rejected Realms

User avatar
Mallorea and Riva
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 9987
Founded: Sep 29, 2010
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:26 am

Hmmm I do recall the major update, and the fact that there were 8 successful defenses against your raids. It seems rather disappointing for TBH that they require the assistance of two other raiding groups, yet they still could not achieve parity with one group of defenders...
You went 5-8, which means if this was the NFL we would be discussing a potential change in coaching at this point in the season. Just something for your troops to consider Halcones ;)

Oh and I nearly forgot the successful refound that was completed! T'was a busy night.
Last edited by Mallorea and Riva on Sat Aug 20, 2011 10:27 am, edited 1 time in total.
Ideological Bulwark #253
Retired Major of The Black Hawks
Retired Charter Nation: Political Affairs in Antarctic Oasis
Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
Former Delegate of The South Pacific, winner of TSP's "Best Dali" Award
Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
Terror of The Joint Systems Alliance
Mall Isaraider, son of Tram and Spartz, Brother of Tal and apparently Sev the treacherous bastard.
Frattastan quote of the month: Mall is following those weird beef-only diets now.

User avatar
Frattastan
Diplomat
 
Posts: 701
Founded: Oct 24, 2007
Left-wing Utopia

Postby Frattastan » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:27 pm

Sedgistan wrote:Was Farkistan not a raider region many years ago?


IIRC, Farkistan was the first raider group ever, and invented the concept of invading (pre-existing LKE).
Anyway, it's not the first time it happens - and invaders have expressed no interest in sparing raider or raider-sympathising regions, if inactive.

Commander Halcones wrote:fendas annihilated.


Except in the 4 raids that were stopped (3 delegateless regions, 1 with delegate - I wasn't around, but I've been told so, and it's true :P)
I know it's a propaganda piece, but I'd like it to be factually correct ;)

Commander Halcones wrote:In somes cases, The Black Hawks coordinated its raids to be at the same time as those of The Black Riders. Fendas only showed up in one, showing that they are only capable of chasing one raider unit.


Oh. Two regions at the same time. The Union days, again >_>
San Francisco Bay Area (forum) | Founderless Regions Alliance (FRA) | Rejected Realms Army (RRA)

Drop Your Pants wrote:I think raiders are cute, the way they think they're big and scary people who threaten others :)

User avatar
Mallorea and Riva
Game Moderator
 
Posts: 9987
Founded: Sep 29, 2010
Benevolent Dictatorship

Postby Mallorea and Riva » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:38 pm

Frattastan wrote:
Commander Halcones wrote:fendas annihilated.


Except in the 4 raids that were stopped (3 delegateless regions, 1 with delegate - I wasn't around, but I've been told so, and it's true :P)
I know it's a propaganda piece, but I'd like it to be factually correct ;)

Actually they missed on 8 last major.
  1. Alliance of Socialist States
  2. New Spain
  3. Viva la Vida
  4. Pot Smokers
  5. Marijuana
  6. United Stalinist States
  7. Frindland
  8. The Supreme Dictatorship of Hammie
Last edited by Mallorea and Riva on Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Ideological Bulwark #253
Retired Major of The Black Hawks
Retired Charter Nation: Political Affairs in Antarctic Oasis
Retired Colonel of DEN Central Command, now defunct
Former Delegate of The South Pacific, winner of TSP's "Best Dali" Award
Retired Secretary of Defense of Stargate
Terror of The Joint Systems Alliance
Mall Isaraider, son of Tram and Spartz, Brother of Tal and apparently Sev the treacherous bastard.
Frattastan quote of the month: Mall is following those weird beef-only diets now.

User avatar
Improving Wordiness
Diplomat
 
Posts: 641
Founded: Dec 05, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby Improving Wordiness » Sat Aug 20, 2011 1:59 pm

I thought Farkistan was a protectorate of LWU? I could swear EW was taking it under his wing. *shrugs*
Klaus Devestatorie wrote:I'm a massive tool. ;)

User avatar
Lord Nuke Is So Kewl
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 137
Founded: Aug 02, 2004
Ex-Nation

Postby Lord Nuke Is So Kewl » Sat Aug 20, 2011 3:08 pm

Wait raiders are targeting their ancestral home now? Really? You guys have no respect for your past anymore. What happen to raider unity? All raiders are equal to one another, and immune to attacking each other? Frak may have been inactive, but, it was every raiders birth home. :palm: Even if I were still with TBH I'd be mad. As a history nerd...this is no different than the destruction of ancient ruins and artifacts.

User avatar
Tramiar
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1162
Founded: Aug 30, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Tramiar » Sat Aug 20, 2011 5:27 pm

Mallorea and Riva wrote:
Frattastan wrote:

Except in the 4 raids that were stopped (3 delegateless regions, 1 with delegate - I wasn't around, but I've been told so, and it's true :P)
I know it's a propaganda piece, but I'd like it to be factually correct ;)

Actually they missed on 8 last major.
  1. Alliance of Socialist States
  2. New Spain
  3. Viva la Vida
  4. Pot Smokers
  5. Marijuana
  6. United Stalinist States
  7. Frindland
  8. The Supreme Dictatorship of Hammie

Glad someone keeps records. :P

Yeah, 8 were missed. But I believe Fratt was correct that 4 were stopped. A miss and a raid that is successfully defended are different things. Besides, no one expects us to win them all, do they? If so, sorry to disappoint. Don't know about everyone else, but I don't really raid for numbers or percents.

Nukey... lets just pretend we just had that MSN convo all over again, mkay? ;)
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*

User avatar
Commander Halcones
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 164
Founded: Oct 30, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Commander Halcones » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:13 am

Farkistan had nothing in their WFE indicating them as raider ground so were considered a legitimate target. We will not waste time hesitating.

Require the assistance of other raider groups? No we can work alone. We decided it would be more effective to work together that time.

User avatar
Evil Wolf
Minister
 
Posts: 2412
Founded: Apr 28, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Evil Wolf » Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:57 am

Improving Wordiness wrote:I thought Farkistan was a protectorate of LWU? I could swear EW was taking it under his wing. *shrugs*


I offered them protection on behalf of Lone Wolves United because of their historical status and the history of the Farkers but the delegate at the time outright refused it. Seems that turned out well for them, eh?
It's ok! You can trust me! I've been Commended!

Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

Mallorea and Riva should be a Game Moderator Game Administrator.

User avatar
Commander Halcones
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 164
Founded: Oct 30, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Commander Halcones » Fri Sep 09, 2011 11:20 am

Clearly their delegate made the incorrect decision.

User avatar
Evil Wolf
Minister
 
Posts: 2412
Founded: Apr 28, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Evil Wolf » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:09 pm

Perhaps he likes being raided?
It's ok! You can trust me! I've been Commended!

Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

Mallorea and Riva should be a Game Moderator Game Administrator.

User avatar
Commander Halcones
Spokesperson
 
Posts: 164
Founded: Oct 30, 2008
Ex-Nation

Postby Commander Halcones » Sat Sep 10, 2011 1:20 am

Maybe. I guess everyone would love to see a Black Hawk in their back garden.

User avatar
Evil Wolf
Minister
 
Posts: 2412
Founded: Apr 28, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Evil Wolf » Sat Sep 10, 2011 9:14 pm

Probably more so than a Wolf at the door. :P
It's ok! You can trust me! I've been Commended!

Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

Mallorea and Riva should be a Game Moderator Game Administrator.

User avatar
The Bruce
Diplomat
 
Posts: 641
Founded: Antiquity
New York Times Democracy

Postby The Bruce » Mon Sep 19, 2011 7:17 pm

Frattastan wrote:
Sedgistan wrote:Was Farkistan not a raider region many years ago?


IIRC, Farkistan was the first raider group ever, and invented the concept of invading (pre-existing LKE).
Anyway, it's not the first time it happens - and invaders have expressed no interest in sparing raider or raider-sympathising regions, if inactive.


They were far from being the first raider group.

There were at least a half dozen small raiding groups before they came along. The difference was that they were the first invader group that were organized and destructive enough to have affected the shape of the game. The Farkers claimed Farkistan, Fark, and Farktopia as their home regions, and had a lot of disagreements over which one was their actual home region.

They took shifts in the NS Forum to condemn anyone who opposed them and were successful in antagonizing their enemies to the point where they were deleted by mods for comments on the forum, opening up new regions to invasion. They destroyed a bunch of mid-sized regions, before their wars over the Heartland got so nasty, in the level of griefing and spamming, that it led to the introduction of regional controls and founders. When founders were introduced, they abused the rules to invade several regions and then con the mods into getting them made the founders (when the option was available for regions created before founder to ask for them) to permanently enslave regions like America. They had one case of multying where a player was controlling around 60 UN nations for invading. After they camped on the East Pacific feeder, seconds after it was created, they kicked out anyone who joined the UN and later anyone who didn't endorse Infinite Loop; ejecting far more nations than Francos Spain ever did. Vestiges of that invader regime are still perpetuated in the regional government of the East Pacific. Despite many Farkers having changed their ways and become positive influences in regions that they once threatened (including the Heartland and Texas), Farkistan really had it coming for a long, long time.

User avatar
Evil Wolf
Minister
 
Posts: 2412
Founded: Apr 28, 2005
Father Knows Best State

Postby Evil Wolf » Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:06 pm

I <3 Farkers.
It's ok! You can trust me! I've been Commended!

Kryozerkia wrote:In the good old days raiding was illegal
Crazy Girl wrote:Invading was never illegal
[violet] wrote:There is supposed to be an invasion game.

Mallorea and Riva should be a Game Moderator Game Administrator.

User avatar
Jakker
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 2934
Founded: May 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Ohio Captured!

Postby Jakker » Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:43 pm

The region of Ohio has been successfully captured in a major update raid led by The Black Hawks with support from The Black Riders. Together, they overtook a delegate that was in power for over 2,000 days! Congrats to all.

All troops involved include:

Jakker
Tramiar
RawrHawk
Xlanar
Crushing Our Enemies
New South Arctica
Face Dancers
Kommandant Von Gest
94 block
Socialist Ecuador
Scooby-Doo
A Million Voices
Nordic Arbor
Last edited by Jakker on Mon Nov 28, 2011 8:04 am, edited 2 times in total.
One Stop Rules Shop
Getting Help Request (GHR)

The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.

User avatar
SunRawr
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1209
Founded: May 30, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby SunRawr » Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:45 pm

Jakker wrote:The region of Ohio has been successfully in a major update raid led by The Black Hawks with support from The Black Riders. Together, they overtook a delegate that was in power for over 2,000 days! Congrats to all.

All troops involved include:

Jakker
Tramiar
RawrHawk
Xlanar
Crushing Our Enemies
New South Arctica
Face Dancers
Kommandant Von Gest
94 block
Socialist Ecuador
Scooby-Doo
A Million Voices
Nordic Arbor

You are an excellent leader, Jakker. :)
Last edited by SunRawr on Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
Tramiar
Ambassador
 
Posts: 1162
Founded: Aug 30, 2005
Ex-Nation

Postby Tramiar » Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:54 pm

I second that. It was a fun raid :)
Mallorea and Riva wrote:I too would ban myself if I saw me moving into my region.

Tramiar: *causes great injustices to natives and fenda-kind*
Spartzy: *prevents great injustices*
Tramiar: too late, they were already caused.
Spartzy: *stops great injustices*
Tramiar: *causes greater injustices, cannot be fixed until next update*
Spartzy: *quits the game*

User avatar
Kommandant Von Gest
Lobbyist
 
Posts: 22
Founded: Jul 14, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Kommandant Von Gest » Fri Nov 25, 2011 11:59 pm

Jakker wrote:Jakkker


A toast to The Black Hawks and Jakker, but edit your post Jakker 8)

User avatar
Jakker
Retired Moderator
 
Posts: 2934
Founded: May 17, 2011
Ex-Nation

Postby Jakker » Sat Nov 26, 2011 12:11 am

hehe whoops. how could i get my own name wrong? :p
One Stop Rules Shop
Getting Help Request (GHR)

The Bruce wrote:Mostly I feel sorry for [raiders], because they put in all this effort and at the end of the day have nothing to show for it and have created nothing.

User avatar
Topid
Minister
 
Posts: 2843
Founded: Dec 29, 2008
Capitalizt

Postby Topid » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:04 am

Hrmph, not bad, actually. Ending a 2008 day delegacy is pretty impressive. Though Topid recalls an observation about a blind squirrel.

Y'all should have waited till it was 2011 or 2012. :P
AKA Weed

User avatar
94 block
Envoy
 
Posts: 308
Founded: Mar 02, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby 94 block » Sat Nov 26, 2011 2:43 am

It was quick and to the point, sorry wordy that you couldnt stay and play
Brigadier General and Director of Foreign Affairs for DEN
Elder of Grand Centraland Root Administrator of http://s15.zetaboards.com/Grand_Central/index/

User avatar
Ballotonia
Senior Admin
 
Posts: 5494
Founded: Antiquity
Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby Ballotonia » Sat Nov 26, 2011 3:00 am

Topid wrote:Hrmph, not bad, actually. Ending a 2008 day delegacy is pretty impressive. Though Topid recalls an observation about a blind squirrel.

Y'all should have waited till it was 2011 or 2012. :P


Ending a 2008 day delegacy is just as easy or difficult as it is to end a one day delegacy. What matters is the endorsement count and the activity level of the delegate in question. Per usual for invader target selection, the victim delegate wasn't logged in so there was no opposition from natives whatsoever. So there wasn't much of a fight. That would've been difficult, after all.

It's actually far more impressive for someone to maintain delegacy for that long than it is to end that streak. Far, far more impressive.

And, really... think about it. Someone spends 5.5 Real Life years maintaining a delegacy, and then some other people apparently think it's a good idea in and of itself to jump in and ruin that. And for what reason? Schoolyard bragging rights? As far as I'm concerned, you might as well be bragging about your 'elite' puppy kicking skills.

Ballotonia
"Een volk dat voor tirannen zwicht zal meer dan lijf en goed verliezen, dan dooft het licht…" -- H.M. van Randwijk

Next

Advertisement

Remove ads

Return to Gameplay

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: Astra

Advertisement

Remove ads