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Postby The NationStates Community » Thu Jun 09, 2011 3:04 pm

Alright, so I thought we might have a little fun. This nation will be a community run nation in the sense that the community, that is, all of YOU guys, gets to decide what I select for the issues. We have the initial 4 I got for starting, and i've set it to one issue a day for debate and what not.

So post which option to select for each issue, and whichever is the most popular is what i'm going with. I've started out as an Inoffensive Centrist Democracy, which is perfect for this.

You can also guess who the person behind this is (their main nation name). Guess correctly, and, well, you can have this nation if you like.

Please don't cheat.

I will make the selections based on the results at the time I go to bed (3 AM-4 AM GMT)


The issues i have today:


Should Democracy Be Compulsory?
In response to a slow news week, certain highbrow newspapers have stirred up the debate over voluntary vs compulsory voting.

The Debate

1) "Compulsory voting makes about as much as sense as having the death penalty for attempted suicide," says civil rights activist Peggy Falopian. "You can't force people to be free! You can only give them the choice. Besides, if all those derelicts who can't be bothered to get off their butts once every few years voted, who would they elect? I shudder to think."


2) "It's not contradictory at all," argues political commentator Fleur Summers. "The fact is, if not everyone votes, the outcome isn't truly representative. Some groups--like elderly gun nuts--vote more often than others. That's why we always end up with such terrible politicians."


3) "This raises an interesting issue," says Buffy Fellow, your brother. "And that is: why do we need elections, anyway? Seems to me it would be much simpler if you just decided what was right, and did it. Wouldn't that save everyone a lot of time?"



Animal Liberation Front Strikes Again


The increasingly militant Animal Liberation Front struck again last night, freeing dozens of chickens bound for delicious snack packs.

1) "These nuts have got to be stopped," demands concerned consumer Klaus Rubin. "They need to face the fact people want snack packs, no matter how many innocent chickens must be sacrificed. Besides, chickens would do the same to us if they had the chance."


2)"These Liberationists are highlighting an important issue," pleads Violet Hamilton. "Too often, animals are put through needless cruelty, just to make their flesh taste a little more deliciously succulent. I'm sure we could ban the more horrific abuses without putting too much of a dent in our national obesity figures. Couldn't we?"


3) "Animals have feelings too!" yelled protestor Billy Utopia, before being set upon by hungry passers-by. "Free the animals! Ban meat-eating!"


4) Economist Beth Jefferson has an alternative. "You don't need to take away the people's right to choose. You just need to build the costs of animal suffering into the price. A tax on meat-eating, in proportion to the amount of cruelty involved, would do the trick. Plus think of the benefit for the national coffers! Of course, poor people wouldn't be able to afford meat, but that's just more incentive for them to get jobs."


Appointment Of Spiritual Advisor

It's time for the government to hire a new religious advisor. Your people have narrowed down the candidates to:

1) Catholic Archbishop Gregory Winters: boasts an excellent track record, having rapidly increased church attendances in his constituencies through the "Reaching God Through Guilt" program. Seen as a solid choice.


2) New Age thinker Bianca Hamilton: a left-field candidate with some radical ideas. "For me, it's not about the name of your religion. It's about discovering your spirituality in whatever guise that takes. Some people call that a cult: I call it taking spirituality to the people."


3) Finally, there's Buy Washington. "If I am awarded the appointment, I will immediately resign," the ex-schoolteacher has declared. "Because, frankly, God is a big load of hokey. I'll be doing everyone a favor by just shutting up about it."


Harry Potter Censorship Row

The latest "Harry Potter" book to hit schools across The NationStates Community has stirred up the greatest controversy yet.

1) "I quite enjoyed the book, until I got to the part where Harry summons evil demons to do his bidding," says religious leader Klaus Silk. "Now that's just wrong. We need to restore some sense to this debate, by which I mean we should remove this book from the shelves, salt it thoroughly, and burn it."


2) Teachers union President Pete Bush says, "Come on, the book is fantasy! And it's a damn good read. I'd like the government to issue a statement of support for our teachers and librarians, so kids can enjoy good books without interference from religious wackos, like Christians."
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Postby Republican Schutzbund » Fri Jun 10, 2011 2:41 am

1, 2, 2, 2.

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Postby Unfocused Extremism » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:45 am

Don't listen to that moderate!

3,3,1,1!

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Postby The NationStates Community » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:45 am

Thank you. Any guesses as to my identity?

And from now on, if I get no responses whatsover, i'll just dismiss the issues. And maybe give this idea up.


A new issue for me today:

Child Casino Shock

Children as young as eight have been spotted gambling in some of The NationStates Community's seedier casinos.

1) Social activist Melbourne Mistletoe is outraged. "Gambling needs to be outlawed immediately. It's no wonder children are becoming sucked into the vice, with adults setting such a poor example. Gambling is a stain on The NationStates Community's international reputation and it must be stopped!"


2) However, Crown Casino chairperson Beth McGuffin says, "What's wrong with children gambling? It prepares them for the realities of life, teaching them that success or failure is not due to hard work or intelligence, but the roll of the dice. Besides, if kids weren't gambling, they'd be spraypainting trains."

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Postby Improving Wordiness » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:47 am

My guess is Codger is running the nation.
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Postby Unfocused Extremism » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:50 am

Missed it by that much...

2 for the casinos.

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Postby Lykosia » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:51 am

Max Barry? :blink:

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Postby Warzone Codger » Fri Jun 10, 2011 4:35 am

1 for casinos

Improving Wordiness wrote:My guess is Codger is running the nation.


I'm running one for my region and building a role play from it, but this one isn't me.

Being the everything of Airspace and with my Alter Ego being the Minister of The West Pacific (and defending its recent policies) is enough work for me.

-Codger speaking, not Laderhig
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Postby Republican Schutzbund » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:12 am

1.

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Postby Imperium Neo Roma » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:16 am

Dismiss the issue.

DISMISS ALL OF THEM
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Postby Aurora-Nova » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:18 am

The NationStates Community wrote:Thank you. Any guesses as to my identity?

And from now on, if I get no responses whatsover, i'll just dismiss the issues. And maybe give this idea up.


A new issue for me today:

Child Casino Shock

Children as young as eight have been spotted gambling in some of The NationStates Community's seedier casinos.

1) Social activist Melbourne Mistletoe is outraged. "Gambling needs to be outlawed immediately. It's no wonder children are becoming sucked into the vice, with adults setting such a poor example. Gambling is a stain on The NationStates Community's international reputation and it must be stopped!"


2) However, Crown Casino chairperson Beth McGuffin says, "What's wrong with children gambling? It prepares them for the realities of life, teaching them that success or failure is not due to hard work or intelligence, but the roll of the dice. Besides, if kids weren't gambling, they'd be spraypainting trains."

The Union of Aurora Nova recommends you dismiss the issue.
As we speak, the Libyan people are being
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legitimate government. The elderly, women,
children... everyone in Libya is in danger tonight.
Help raise awareness and support Gaddafi!
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Postby Eaglleia » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:19 am

Dismiss, or 2.

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Postby Corsica and Sadegna » Fri Jun 10, 2011 5:24 am

1.

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Postby Syvorji » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:58 am

Numero Deux.

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Postby Darenjo » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:31 am

2
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Postby The NationStates Community » Fri Jun 10, 2011 12:49 pm

Indeed, Codger I am not.

I assume that all those simply placing a number without any further description are referring to the Casino's issue.

As for the first 4 issues, since I have two completely conflicting responses, I'll probably dismiss, or leave them for another day.

For the casino's, it is 4-3 in favor of option 2 so far.

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Postby New South Hell » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:25 pm

There is generally a problem with how to handle ties, of which the problem of the first 4 issues is an extreme case. I suggest one of the following two general procedures for resolving them:

1. The NationStates Community itself breaks the tie by choosing one of the options tied with the largest count.

2. The replies which chose an option tied for the highest count are examined, and the first reply choosing one of these options determines the final vote.

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Postby The NationStates Community » Fri Jun 10, 2011 3:57 pm

New South Hell wrote:There is generally a problem with how to handle ties, of which the problem of the first 4 issues is an extreme case. I suggest one of the following two general procedures for resolving them:

1. The NationStates Community itself breaks the tie by choosing one of the options tied with the largest count.

2. The replies which chose an option tied for the highest count are examined, and the first reply choosing one of these options determines the final vote.

Yes, I will figure out what i'm doing shortly before I go to bed.

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Postby Aurora-Nova » Fri Jun 10, 2011 7:15 pm

The NationStates Community wrote:As for the first 4 issues, since I have two completely conflicting responses, I'll probably dismiss, or leave them for another day.

I hadn't made a recommendation on them, assuming they had already been handled. In the case they have not, Aurora Nova recommends you enact Option 2 on all four of them.
As we speak, the Libyan people are being
massacred by terrorists in arms against the
legitimate government. The elderly, women,
children... everyone in Libya is in danger tonight.
Help raise awareness and support Gaddafi!
“I believe that Palestine is an occupied land
from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River,
and this is the right of the entire
Palestinian people, this land.”

~Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah
Union of Aurora Nova | Union d'Aurore-Neuve
Deus Imperatorque Populusque
A Mari Usque Ad Mare

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Anti-Israel · Anti-USA · Pro-Hamas · Pro-Hezbollah · Pro-Gaddafi · Pro-DPRK
-------------------------
My views are often radical, and may offend some people.
Be aware that I will always speak my truly-held beliefs, however offensive or unpopular they may be to others.

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Postby The NationStates Community » Fri Jun 10, 2011 8:09 pm

I've selected option 2 for all except I dismissed the compulsory democracy one.

How will the nation change? What will the next issue be?

We'll see tomorrow.

Don't forget to guess who I am! If you like...

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Postby The NationStates Community » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:06 am

New issue!

Where's The Love Gone?

Last night the respected tabloid TV show "60 Minutes" ran a report on The NationStates Community's rising divorce rate. What is happening to the nuclear family?


1) "There's a simple solution," says Pastor Felix, of the Catholic Church. "Divorce should be illegal. 'For better or worse,' anyone remember how that goes? We should return to the good old days, when you got married for life and stuck by your partner no matter how much of a drunken, abusive, adulterating disappointment they turned out to be."

2) John Black, author of the hit book, 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Some Whole Other Place,' has a simpler solution. "If couples would just call each other 'darling' once in a while, there would be far fewer relationship breakdowns. A little affection is all it takes. So the government should make it mandatory: call your spouse 'darling' at least once a day, or face a fine."

3) "There's a simple way to boost the marriage rate," says gay rights activist Sue-Ann Broadside. "Abolish those arcane laws that discriminate against same-sex marriages. It's obscene to treat people differently because of their sexual preference. Besides, everyone knows gay relationships are more stable than straight ones."


What to choose?

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Postby Warzone Codger » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:14 am

While you still can you might want to track any stat changes economy/rights/tax/industries. It'll add another dimension. :)

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Postby Unfocused Extremism » Sat Jun 11, 2011 7:16 am

Yep, 2.

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Postby Aurora-Nova » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:14 am

The NationStates Community wrote:New issue!

Where's The Love Gone?

Last night the respected tabloid TV show "60 Minutes" ran a report on The NationStates Community's rising divorce rate. What is happening to the nuclear family?


1) "There's a simple solution," says Pastor Felix, of the Catholic Church. "Divorce should be illegal. 'For better or worse,' anyone remember how that goes? We should return to the good old days, when you got married for life and stuck by your partner no matter how much of a drunken, abusive, adulterating disappointment they turned out to be."

2) John Black, author of the hit book, 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Some Whole Other Place,' has a simpler solution. "If couples would just call each other 'darling' once in a while, there would be far fewer relationship breakdowns. A little affection is all it takes. So the government should make it mandatory: call your spouse 'darling' at least once a day, or face a fine."

3) "There's a simple way to boost the marriage rate," says gay rights activist Sue-Ann Broadside. "Abolish those arcane laws that discriminate against same-sex marriages. It's obscene to treat people differently because of their sexual preference. Besides, everyone knows gay relationships are more stable than straight ones."


What to choose?

Aurora Nova recommends you dismiss the issue.
As we speak, the Libyan people are being
massacred by terrorists in arms against the
legitimate government. The elderly, women,
children... everyone in Libya is in danger tonight.
Help raise awareness and support Gaddafi!
“I believe that Palestine is an occupied land
from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River,
and this is the right of the entire
Palestinian people, this land.”

~Sayyid Hassan Nasrallah
Union of Aurora Nova | Union d'Aurore-Neuve
Deus Imperatorque Populusque
A Mari Usque Ad Mare

-------------------------
Anti-Israel · Anti-USA · Pro-Hamas · Pro-Hezbollah · Pro-Gaddafi · Pro-DPRK
-------------------------
My views are often radical, and may offend some people.
Be aware that I will always speak my truly-held beliefs, however offensive or unpopular they may be to others.

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Postby Frenequesta » Sat Jun 11, 2011 8:27 am

The NationStates Community wrote:New issue!

Where's The Love Gone?

Last night the respected tabloid TV show "60 Minutes" ran a report on The NationStates Community's rising divorce rate. What is happening to the nuclear family?


1) "There's a simple solution," says Pastor Felix, of the Catholic Church. "Divorce should be illegal. 'For better or worse,' anyone remember how that goes? We should return to the good old days, when you got married for life and stuck by your partner no matter how much of a drunken, abusive, adulterating disappointment they turned out to be."

2) John Black, author of the hit book, 'Men are from Mars, Women are from Some Whole Other Place,' has a simpler solution. "If couples would just call each other 'darling' once in a while, there would be far fewer relationship breakdowns. A little affection is all it takes. So the government should make it mandatory: call your spouse 'darling' at least once a day, or face a fine."

3) "There's a simple way to boost the marriage rate," says gay rights activist Sue-Ann Broadside. "Abolish those arcane laws that discriminate against same-sex marriages. It's obscene to treat people differently because of their sexual preference. Besides, everyone knows gay relationships are more stable than straight ones."


What to choose?


The nuclear family, even marriage, is arbritrary from a purely social perspective. Go with 3.
I’m mostly here for... something to do, I suppose.

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