Neutral Ground - an Open Discussion Thread

[Solorni]

If I was a defender, I'd love people like Cora who see tag raiding that way. It seems that the days like when LKE captured Belgium and utterly dominated it are gone. That was flawed too in the sense that defenders simply couldn't compete, if only there was a way to bring some type of balance to that.

[New Rogernomics]

With South Luxdonia, I succeeded in establish a Tyranny By Majority.

Now get the economy to 100.

Not sure if I can get the tax rate to 100%, but I am trying.

Yes, the forum activity in particular has been lower than it has been in the past. But once the reforms are done, which they very nearly are, we should see a grand return that surpasses our best days and combines them with stability along with unfettered constitutional democracy.

I remain skeptical, and I won't believe it until I see it because, frankly, I heard this exact same thing months ago when I raised questions about Balder's direction in The North Pacific. Here we are months later still hearing the same thing and that it will happen soon, which is, again, what you said months ago.

That said, my opinion doesn't really matter, I'm not even a resident of Balder. Best of luck to Balder, whatever happens.

Well, it can be a bit harder driving activity in a sinker than in a feeder, even if I don't know much about the status or situation of Balder.

[Petyr]

Need some advice... My region is ruled by an Emperor that is not elected, but his power is limited by the elected law making body (the Senate). It is essentially a constitutional monarchy I suppose.

Question: Would you use the tag 'Monarchist' or 'Democratic' or both or neither? We seem to have elements of both, so I'm leaning toward both. I know I can do whatever I want and people use all of them even. I just want it to present it as accurately as possible.

Thanks for any advise!

[Luxdonia]

Need some advice... My region is ruled by an Emperor that is not elected, but his power is limited by the elected law making body (the Senate). It is essentially a constitutional monarchy I suppose.

Question: Would you use the tag 'Monarchist' or 'Democratic' or both or neither? We seem to have elements of both, so I'm leaning toward both. I know I can do whatever I want and people use all of them even. I just want it to present it as accurately as possible.

Thanks for any advise!

@Petyr: My advice would be to do both.

With South Luxdonia, I succeeded in establish a Tyranny By Majority.

Now get the economy to 100.

Will do.

[Shadoke]

I'd use both because a Constitutional Monarchy exhibits both.

[We Are Not the NSA]

Need some advice... My region is ruled by an Emperor that is not elected, but his power is limited by the elected law making body (the Senate). It is essentially a constitutional monarchy I suppose.

Question: Would you use the tag 'Monarchist' or 'Democratic' or both or neither? We seem to have elements of both, so I'm leaning toward both. I know I can do whatever I want and people use all of them even. I just want it to present it as accurately as possible.

Thanks for any advise!

I'd say both. Pretty much the UK without the Prime Minister.

[Drop Your Pants]

And add the Recruiter Friendly tag while you're at it

[Petyr]

And add the Recruiter Friendly tag while you're at it

I am a recruiter, and I am rather friendly.

Thanks for the input guys, that is what I'll do then!

[Cora II]

The best part of the R/D game is tactical level updating, raiders vs. defenders skirmishes (=wardances).How that part of the game could be saved, maintained, encouraged, and balanced to be as an integral part of R/D, without necessity to have high tech programs for it?

We play game where the skill-aspect should be always there, but also where marginals of a success and a failure determined by few seconds time windows.

It is possible achieve that level of accuracy only by means provided the game itself, but the work required to do that is the game killer here. in these fields.

An updated updating order of regions should be available for everyone everyday, provided by the site in-site.

[Mallorea and Riva]

The best part of the R/D game is tactical level updating, raiders vs. defenders skirmishes (=wardances).How that part of the game could be saved, maintained, encouraged, and balanced to be as an integral part of R/D, without necessity to have high tech programs for it?

We play game where the skill-aspect should be always there, but also where marginals of a success and a failure determined by few seconds time windows.

It is possible achieve that level of accuracy only by means provided the game itself, but the work required to do that is the game killer here. in these fields.

An updated updating order of regions should be available for everyone everyday, provided by the site in-site.

Technical requests should go in the technical forum.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

The best part of the R/D game is tactical level updating, raiders vs. defenders skirmishes (=wardances).How that part of the game could be saved, maintained, encouraged, and balanced to be as an integral part of R/D, without necessity to have high tech programs for it?

We play game where the skill-aspect should be always there, but also where marginals of a success and a failure determined by few seconds time windows.

It is possible achieve that level of accuracy only by means provided the game itself, but the work required to do that is the game killer here. in these fields.

An updated updating order of regions should be available for everyone everyday, provided by the site in-site.

https://www.nationstates.net/pages/regions.xml.gz

There it is. Every region that existed last update, in the order that they updated in, as requested. Parse it as you will.

[Pollaetorian]

Now that someone has actually brought banner ads in NS, how do you think it compares with using stamps for regional recruitment? Although in this instance it wasn't being used to promote a region. It might be better value for money possibly

[G-Tech Corporation]

Now that someone has actually brought banner ads in NS, how do you think it compares with using stamps for regional recruitment? Although in this instance it wasn't being used to promote a region. It might be better value for money possibly

I'd presume as much really. Banners might actually be very cheap pound for pound; if the users don't click through, you aren't charged, and you get exposure for your region. And if they do click through, hey, it's pretty cheap compared to stamps, and you've already gotten them farther than 99% of all recruitment TGs.

[Consular]

People have bought banner ads? I have ads disabled..

[Flanderlion]

If banner ads take off though, they won't be cheaper than stamps. The whole ad words auction thing.

[We Are Not the NSA]

If banner ads take off though, they won't be cheaper than stamps. The whole ad words auction thing.

Good point. Also, we have no idea how effective it actually is. I for one, have never actually looked at the ads on this site.

[Flanderlion]

If banner ads take off though, they won't be cheaper than stamps. The whole ad words auction thing.

Good point. Also, we have no idea how effective it actually is. I for one, have never actually looked at the ads on this site.

I notice the ads on the left of the page far more than the ones below the page. There's some weird games everywhere right now, but mostly it seems to be split between 'buy yourself a korean wife' type dating sites, and average to terrible games. I'd personally welcome people using the ads to advertise their own region.

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

Now that someone has actually brought banner ads in NS, how do you think it compares with using stamps for regional recruitment? Although in this instance it wasn't being used to promote a region. It might be better value for money possibly

I mean, it runs on cost per click, which you bid for. You'd have to do some testing to find out how big of a big you'd need to get decent exposure on NS, and costs can quickly hit $1 per click. I guess it would depend on how much you spend on stamps- a lot of people I know only buy 2-10k at a time, which wouldn't get you very far on AdWords.

Of course

Now that someone has actually brought banner ads in NS, how do you think it compares with using stamps for regional recruitment? Although in this instance it wasn't being used to promote a region. It might be better value for money possibly

I'd presume as much really. Banners might actually be very cheap pound for pound; if the users don't click through, you aren't charged, and you get exposure for your region. And if they do click through, hey, it's pretty cheap compared to stamps, and you've already gotten them farther than 99% of all recruitment TGs.

What I would argue is cost compared to stamps. I mean on one hand, yes, some of the exposure is free. But without a little testing, it's hard to say what the cost is, and AFAIK there's no way to tell non-click reach so you don;t really have a way to compare it to TG reach expect by actually trying it for a period and comparing your numbers.

If banner ads take off though, they won't be cheaper than stamps. The whole ad words auction thing.

And that. Right now, most NS ads seem to be pretty bottom of the barrel. Buy a wife, play this scantily clad woman game, etc. No idea what Bitely's bid was, but he seems to get good reach fast. If a dozen Bitely's were out there trying though, they'd be bidding against each other for space.

Also, worth noting you lose anyone with Postmaster or any AdBlocker (or both hehehe), which limits your audience to a degree.

[We Are The NSA]

Good point. Also, we have no idea how effective it actually is. I for one, have never actually looked at the ads on this site.

I notice the ads on the left of the page far more than the ones below the page. There's some weird games everywhere right now, but mostly it seems to be split between 'buy yourself a korean wife' type dating sites, and average to terrible games. I'd personally welcome people using the ads to advertise their own region.

Yeah, those are the only ads I've ever paid attention to... Still never downloaded the games.

[Mallorea and Riva]

So who is going to find the first RO bug?

[Archmont Founder]

So who is going to find the first RO bug?

When is the feature coming out anyway?

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

So who is going to find the first RO bug?

Make one of my puppet dumps (see: The World of Remnant) or conquered regions ( see: AOI) part of the Beta, and I'll bring along a testing party

[Valrifell]

I volunteer my regions as tribute...
Depending on how I feel...

[Sedgistan]

So who is going to find the first RO bug?

Make one of my puppet dumps (see: The World of Remnant) or conquered regions ( see: AOI) part of the Beta, and I'll bring along a testing party

Done (The World of Remnant).

[Ever-Wandering Souls]

ohhhhhhh, fun.