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Namayapata
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Postby Namayapata » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:12 pm

StopCAPO

a campaign of sanityglobal


Condemnation drafted due to CFN officials not listening. Please support this movement. Together we'll show them we can change things. Together we'll do this.


The government of the Commonwealth of Free Nations has made an attempt to prevent citizens from filing moderation reports without going through their courts of law, through the CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act. But not only this, if the act of a nation is legal under CFN law, but not NS law, it appears that you will according to the law not be able to file a moderation report. But the thing that makes this law even more pointless is that the government can't tell who lodged a GHR, so witchhunts will begin.


Update 1: Liberated Democratic Republics, the Minister of Defense of the CFN and the proposer of this bill, admitted that the bill is not what it seems and that it was decieving to the CFN public


Update 2: Liberated Democratic Republics, the Minister of Defense of the CFN and the proposer of this bill, and The Silver Bloods, the founder of the CFN, have gone back on their previous statements and said they no longer support the bill


Update 3: Liberated Democratic Republics, the Minister of Defense of the CFN and the proposer of this bill, has stated that StopCAPO did not influence his decision to support a repeal and The Silver Bloods, the founder of the CFN, has said he is OK with the principal of the bill



Update 4: Liberated Democratic Republics, the Minister of Defense of the CFN and the proposer of this bill, has performed a U-turn saying he will not support a repeal and Vladovaskia, the Chancellor and WAD of the CFN, has declared he supports the bill wholeheartedly


Update 5: Vladovaskia, the Chancellor and WAD of the CFN, has ejected one of our supporters without a trial


This is ridiculous. Governments should be there to protect the people, not rule their lives. Help stop this nonsense now.


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[i]To whom it may concern,[/i]

The government of [NationName] considers the aforementioned [url=http://cfnforums.cf/discussion/75/cfn-adjudication-of-penal-offenses-act]CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act[/url] to be invalid legislation, and as such will not follow the Act protocol when taking actions. We hope that our call will be heard by the CFN government.

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Yours sincerely,

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[i]To whom it may concern,[/i]

The government of [NationName] considers the aforementioned [url=http://cfnforums.cf/discussion/75/cfn-adjudication-of-penal-offenses-act]CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act[/url] to be invalid legislation, and urges the CFN government to remove it from the legal code with haste.

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Yours sincerely,

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[url=https://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=12&t=316657][color=#FF0000]Stop[/color][color=#000040]CAPO[/color][/url] in the [color=#000040][url=https://www.nationstates.net/region=commonwealth_of_free_nations]CFN[/url][/color]


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Namayapata
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Postby Namayapata » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:14 pm

To whom it may concern,

The government of Namayapata considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and as such will not follow the Act protocol when taking actions. We hope that our call will be heard by the CFN government.

The act is ridiculous for all the reasons I have outlined. It should not be recognized by any CFN nation.

Yours sincerely,

Joseph Carreston
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Namayapata

20th October 2014
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Postby The Lendol Archipelago » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:32 pm

To whom it may concern,

The government of The Lendol Archipelago considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and urges the CFN government to remove it from the legal code with haste.

We wish that the CFN shall see the right path before stronger actions are required.

Yours sincerely,

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Postby West Aurelia » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:33 pm

To whom it may concern,

The government of the Republic of West Aurelia considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and urges the CFN government to remove it from the legal code with haste.

Yours sincerely,

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Postby Elemental North » Sun Oct 19, 2014 11:35 pm

To whom it may concern,

The government of the United Democracies of Elemental North considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and urges the CFN government to remove it from the legal code with haste.

As Prime Minister of the International Freedom Coalition, I would hope that my word resonates with you. Not only does the above stand true with all nations within the I.F.C, but we find the legislation so mentioned to be abhorrent-and must state that condemnation may be imminent if the request stated above is not met. We pray you see the folly of your legislation.

Yours sincerely,

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10-19-14
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Postby Toronina » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:00 am

To whom it may concern,

The government of [NationName] considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and urges the CFN government to remove it from the legal code with haste.

Yours sincerely,

President Vladimir Staleitin
Vice President and Leader of the House, John Kenmeister
Minister for Foreign Affairs and International Development, Jessica Meincan

Signed, 20th of October
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Postby Rhina » Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:52 am

Namayapata wrote:
This is ridiculous. Governments should be there to protect the people, not rule their lives. Help stop this nonsense now.
Of course governments try to rule the lives of their people. When dealing with governments, either you are at the table, or you are on the table. When a government is made to be totally separate from the people, as yours is, this is simply required practice for the government to maintain its power.
Which is precisely why Hyperionist regions like mine actively attempt to cultivate every citizen into a capable leader: so that everyone is at the table, and true meritocracy can run its course.
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Postby Vista Major » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:24 am

CFN Citizen Pledge Code

To whom it may concern,

The government of [NationName] considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and as such will not follow the Act protocol when taking actions. We hope that our call will be heard by the CFN government.

[I hereby express my deep feeling of betrayal, as well of that of The CFN and Vista Major]

Yours sincerely,
Jamal Harroxman
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10/20/14
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Postby Kingston-Atlantis » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:30 am

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To whom it may concern,

The governments of Kingston-Atlantis and Kingston-Atlantis Eos consider the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and as such will not follow the Act protocol when taking actions. We hope that our call will be heard by the CFN government.

As allies in Genuan Rebirth, we urge the CFN government to enact just laws that are for the betterment of the citizens. We believe that enacting such an outrageous, internationally unjust policy will lead to the collapse of CFN.

Yours sincerely,

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20 October 2014
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Postby Klaus Devestatorie » Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:56 am

To the Commonwealth of Free Nations,

Good luck with that.

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Postby Zunkwentania » Mon Oct 20, 2014 4:04 am

To whom it may concern,

The government of Zunkwentania considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and urges the CFN government to remove it from the legal code with haste.



Yours sincerely,
Diego Valquial,
Minister of Foreign Affairs
10/20/2014

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The Lord-Chancellor
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Postby The Lord-Chancellor » Mon Oct 20, 2014 5:41 am

To the petitioners of StopCAPO,

I hear the growing international group that is signing the petition to get the government of CFN to repeal CAPCO. However I will not exercise my veto powers to repeal this law at this moment. In Parliament, I was one of the endorsers, as were many other government officials of CFN. I stated in Parliament that,"I believe that this bill can only better our region, since when does the strive for justice ever hurt? As we all know, the Moderators will not always be able to address every issue, this is why we have our judicial system in the region to uphold our own laws, en lieu of respecting the NS laws in place." This is what I believed in, I did not believe in trying to override the rules of NationStates. I will speak to the Chancellor and the Cabinet about this situation, however I believe that any form of veto power should not be exercised by myself and or the Chancellor. This Law will take the CFN legal process of a repeal proposal in the Parliament.

Thank you,

The Silver Bloods

The Lord-Chancellor of the Commonwealth of Free Nations


UPDATE:

Hello again petitioners of StopCAPO,

I have updated myself on the situation and I have come to a new conclusion. I do believe that CAPO is far too controversial. I also believe that it's desired benefits have turned into negatives. This situation with CAPO developed after a situation between the moderators and a nation of the Commonwealth. However, things are different now, we have to respect the moderators authority and currently they are very displeased with CAPO. When the repeal forms for CAPO are submitted to Parliament, I will be an endorser of it.

Thank you once again,

The Silver Bloods

The Lord-Chancellor of the Commonwealth of Free Nations
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Postby Namayapata » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:06 am

I'd like to say how proud I am of everyone in this thread. We have united to stop ridiculous legislation, and to prevent a region of the world from becoming a much worse place. I thank you all for this.

Let's get together, let's all unite,
Or they will do whatever they like
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Postby The Dalek Paradigm » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:38 am

Vista Major wrote:CFN Citizen Pledge Code

To whom it may concern,

The government of [NationName] considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and as such will not follow the Act protocol when taking actions. We hope that our call will be heard by the CFN government.

[I hereby express my deep feeling of betrayal, as well of that of The CFN and Vista Major]

Yours sincerely,
Jamal Harroxman
PRESIDENT OF FOREIGN REPRESENTATION
10/20/14


Would like to point out that you endorsed this bill
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Postby Vista Major » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:32 pm

The Dalek Paradigm wrote:
Vista Major wrote:CFN Citizen Pledge Code

To whom it may concern,

The government of [NationName] considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and as such will not follow the Act protocol when taking actions. We hope that our call will be heard by the CFN government.

[I hereby express my deep feeling of betrayal, as well of that of The CFN and Vista Major]

Yours sincerely,
Jamal Harroxman
PRESIDENT OF FOREIGN REPRESENTATION
10/20/14


Would like to point out that you endorsed this bill

I recognize that I endorsed this bill. In short, it was a mistake.
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Postby New Kvenland » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:37 pm

To whom it may concern,

The government of New Kvenland considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and as such will not follow the Act protocol when taking actions. We hope that our call will be heard by the CFN government.

Despite not being a member of the CFN, New Kvenland does not approve of this law, and will its fellow member of the IFC in getting rid of it.

Yours sincerely,

Abram Christenssen
Chief Foreign Advisor, Regional Division
New Kvenland
10/20/2014
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Postby Liberated Democratic Republics » Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:58 pm

Elemental North wrote:To whom it may concern,

The government of the United Democracies of Elemental North considers the aforementioned CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act to be invalid legislation, and urges the CFN government to remove it from the legal code with haste.

As Prime Minister of the International Freedom Coalition, I would hope that my word resonates with you. Not only does the above stand true with all nations within the I.F.C, but we find the legislation so mentioned to be abhorrent-and must state that condemnation may be imminent if the request stated above is not met. We pray you see the folly of your legislation.

Yours sincerely,

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Prime Minister,
International Freedom Coalition
Delegate,
U.D of Elemental North

10-19-14

I am sorry you feel that way. Your condemnation of our region would be highly unfortunate, but would be a highly disproportionate response to a law that only affects the CFN. For the safety of the members of my region, I feel it is my duty to place justice over popularity, and as such, I will not support the repeal of this law unless ordered to do so by an official NS moderator, and only then if threatened with a ban hammer.

Allow me to post a revised copy of my speech.


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Ladies, gentlemen, and others of the CFN,

There has been much controversy over the CAPO bill that I sponsored in Parliament, and that subsequently passed. It was never meant to punish people. In a perfect world, it would have ensured that everyone was guaranteed a trial before any kind of punishment. Unfortunately, because of the inherent functions of NS, this idealistic bill was reduced to a symbol, a statement, a call for people to see the error of their ways.

The CFN has long been a place where free speech is valued, jokes are widespread, and skin is thick. It is simply the culture of the region, and the unique personalities of the people we attract to our strange yet wonderful community. It is the opinion of many people that disagreements could be solved civilly, in a peaceful manner, without intervention from the mods. Unfortunately, there has been a disturbing trend among a few individuals in recent times, and certain people started to search out and report every single questionable thing said by their peers, solely because of grudges held over political beliefs. This resulted in multiple, one-sided punishments, because some parties were too honorable to report every single, unrelated and insignificant infraction of his fellow citizens, while some clearly used moderation reports to target their political enemies, after proving unsuccessful at suing those enemies in CFN courts. Their grievances lay not in language at all, but in isolated, unrelated, and purely political arguments, one of which pertained to the election of our Vice Chancellor. The CAPO bill was written to remedy that trend.

To the initiators of the movement to disobey this bill, do not regard your actions as a testament to "the power of true democracy", because they are nothing of the sort. They are a testament to the power of coercion through threats of violence, the equivalent of posting troops outside of the polls. You have taken a regional issue and turned it into a NS-wide issue, relying on pressure from outsiders (especially moderators) to influence internal decisions. The fact that your actions were the cause of the law's passing and the *attempted* cause of it's demise is ironic at best, shameful at worst, and to call the outcome of this situation "true democracy" is utterly insulting to the meaning of the word, especially considering that the majority of MPs voted FOR the CAPO Act. This bill passed parliament without even going to the cabinet for a vote, meaning two things: 1. that it received an 80% approval rating or higher among the voting citizens of our region, and 2. that any higher office that any of the voters holds in no way effected the outcome of this bill. I should not be threatened with loss of my position for authoring the bill, nor MoJ Jas for denouncing it, nor Chancellor Vlad and Judge Ruclax for supporting it. Everyone who voted on that bill was doing their job correctly, and should be commended for their involvement in the political process regardless of whether they voted in favor of the bill or against it, because apathy is a greater injustice than speaking one's mind.

My final statement should serve as a warning to the individuals (I do not have to name names, you know who you are) for whom the CAPO Act was written. Parliament cannot stop you from continuing on your destructive path. And if you do choose to to break the law, you may eventually find yourself in exactly the position that you seek to achieve. But be careful what you wish for. You won't have to worry about your feelings being hurt. You won't have to worry about being embarrassed in front of a crowd, or being defeated in a debate. You won't have to worry about losing an election or a parliament vote. But your feelings will be safe because their will be no one left to offend you. Your dignity will be spared because there will be no one left to argue with you. Your power will be ensured because there will be no one left to oppose you. Those who seek domination through violence instead of resolution through peaceful means will find themselves at the top only when the top is all that exists. They will find themselves rulers of a desolate, empty kingdom, because they were so consumed with killing their competitors that they become kings over corpses, and nothing more. I can swear to you all now that there is nothing you can say to me, short of my password, last name, or home address, that I will report you for. At the end of the day, words are only words, and I value the opinion of the majority and the well being of the region over the pretense that my correctness is absolute in all things. I urge you to do the same. If you do not like this law, then you can accept the fact that democracy doesn't always go the way you want, or you can pack your bags. Thank you, and long live the Commonwealth of Free Nations.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:18 pm

Liberated Democratic Republics wrote:The CFN has long been a place where free speech is valued, jokes are widespread, and skin is thick. It is simply the culture of the region

It's nice that you're thick skinned and all, but the simple fact is that you're using a public website with published rules. Your internal affairs became external affairs when you posted on our forums and/or RMBs. If you've got internal political problems with that, you should keep those conversations on forums under your control.

Our standard isn't "as long as the target isn't offended," it's "as long as the casual reader isn't offended." If you want to make private in-jokes, go right ahead. Just do it on your private forums, not ours. If something on this site gets reported by any "casual reader", NS mods will act on it.

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Postby Liberated Democratic Republics » Mon Oct 20, 2014 7:36 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:
Liberated Democratic Republics wrote:The CFN has long been a place where free speech is valued, jokes are widespread, and skin is thick. It is simply the culture of the region

It's nice that you're thick skinned and all, but the simple fact is that you're using a public website with published rules. Your internal affairs became external affairs when you posted on our forums and/or RMBs. If you've got internal political problems with that, you should keep those conversations on forums under your control.

Our standard isn't "as long as the target isn't offended," it's "as long as the casual reader isn't offended." If you want to make private in-jokes, go right ahead. Just do it on your private forums, not ours. If something on this site gets reported by any "casual reader", NS mods will act on it.

I am fine with that. Casual readers are unbiased. This bill was written to address people who used moderators as a weapon for political means: something that is not only indecent and dishonorable, but is against NS law anyways.
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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:42 pm

I don't agree with any of this.

Vladis dose a good job with the region

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Postby Cora II » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:09 am

How about just barring delegate access of the region: 20 WA nations online same time for decorating your beautiful region is not totally beyond all possibilities and elections would be question of few seconds... :kiss:
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Postby Archangelskl Oblast » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:13 am

Cora II wrote:How about just barring delegate access of the region: 20 WA nations online same time for decorating your beautiful region is not totally beyond all possibilities and elections would be question of few seconds... :kiss:

Yeah no. We are not that dumb. TBT LT. Lol. Nice try though.
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The Lord-Chancellor's Address to StopCAPO

Postby The Lord-Chancellor » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:14 am

This is The Lord-Chancellor speaking to the pro-StopCAPO community,

Recently I have said "CAPO is far too controversial" and "It's desired benefits have turned into negatives." However as I also "We have to respect the moderators authority and currently they are very displeased with CAPO." This does not mean that we must be compelled to denounce of it. Another statement I made "When the repeal forms for CAPO are submitted to Parliament, I will be an endorser of it.", I did follow through with this for a short period of time however I now believe that I cannot be swayed by an inter-regional petition on this matter. I now denounce the Repeal of the CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act. If people, directly inside of my region, are protesting it, then I would be more apt to listen to them because this law is effecting them, not the signatories of StopCAPO.

The owner of this petition is being charged with treason by the Chancellor due to the obstruction of our democratic process along with the formulation of a condemnation World Assembly resolution against his own region.

Now signatories of StopCAPO, I ask you, do you really know what CAPO is? Or are you just signing a petition taking a mere few seconds then moving on while a region is effected for a long span of time due to that simple signature. A petition that was created by someone who was in fact against his region so much he wishes to condemn it.

What is the CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act? Well let me tell you what this "dreaded" CAPO situation is. Recently, a very close and high-ranking member of our community suffered a permanent punishment from the NationStates Moderators. It was very unfortunate, it made us even more conscience of the Rules of NationStates yet we strived to look towards the future and think of those who may fall victim to the same situation as our member did. CAPO does not defy NationStates Rules, instead it promotes them! Listen to my words as taken from CAPO,"Clarifying that particularly heinous crimes that violate both CFN and NS law should be dealt with to the fullest extent possible." To me that sounds no less than agreement, we support and uphold the Rules of NationStates while desiring to uphold the Laws of the Commonwealth of Free Nations.
I am also cognizant that the law states "That no nation may issue a moderation report against any Citizen [of the Commonwealth of Free Nations] except by following the procedure outlined in this law, and failure to comply with this law will result in a criminal trial against the filer of such a report." Many of you may still be up-in-arms over this, allow me to tell you why you should lower them and instead shake your fist at StopCAPO.

The law of CAPO states that,"Crimes purely technical in nature, and that are impossible to prove without moderator interference, such as crimes related to "WA multying" or hacking into another player's account, are exempt from this law, and that nations be free to report said crimes to NS moderators immediately.", we do not block Citizens for filing reports on situations like that. However when other happenings occur, before filing a report what would happen is that the accused person would face the CFN Courts, if he is found guilty then a report can be filed to the NationStates Moderators. The meaning of this law, CAPO, has no other intention than to rid of betrayal and instead it wishes to create and spark a wave of unity and honesty within our region.

If I give in to an inter-regional gathering where they are signing on a petition that pushes for the repeal of a law in another region, other than their's, I am not thinking with my own mind. When it comes down to the laws of my region, I must not think as a cosmopolitan, but as a regionalist. A regionalist puts the interests of his or her region before anything else.

This is my final decision on this topic, my opinion shall not waver anymore, I am an opponent of StopCAPO. When I tried to work with the StopCAPO community, in turn my words were twisted, misconstrued, and taken out of context. To me, this petition was founded upon lies, and continues to be fueled by lies. Do not expect my support any further with StopCAPO, instead expect the very opposite.

Now there are one of two things going through your head. One is you are now aware that CAPO is not what the propaganda of StopCAPO has made it out to be. Two is that you are possibly apathetic to the situation and you signed this petition when this law may not even pertain to you. CAPO is a safety net, I will be a supporter of it and I will help as much as I can to make it stand for as long as possible.

I would further like to add that this lengthy argument against StopCAPO was so that I could express myself formally upon how I feel about CAPO. Lastly I wish for those inter-regionally to think about your signature on here, hopefully I have convinced you or at least changed your mind slightly about it. If I did cause you to think of CAPO differently, I would request that you remove your signature. I appreciate the concern for the Commonwealth, however it is of false concern. CAPO is a safety net for the citizens of the Commonwealth, and supporters of StopCAPO wish to take this safety net away.

Thank you for your time,

The Silver Bloods

The Lord-Chancellor of the Commonwealth of Free Nations

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Postby Namayapata » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:19 am

The Lord-Chancellor wrote:
This is The Lord-Chancellor speaking to the pro-StopCAPO community,

Recently I have said "CAPO is far too controversial" and "It's desired benefits have turned into negatives." However as I also "We have to respect the moderators authority and currently they are very displeased with CAPO." This does not mean that we must be compelled to denounce of it. Another statement I made "When the repeal forms for CAPO are submitted to Parliament, I will be an endorser of it.", I did follow through with this for a short period of time however I now believe that I cannot be swayed by an inter-regional petition on this matter. I now denounce the Repeal of the CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act. If people, directly inside of my region, are protesting it, then I would be more apt to listen to them because this law is effecting them, not the signatories of StopCAPO.

The owner of this petition is being charged with treason by the Chancellor due to the obstruction of our democratic process along with the formulation of a condemnation World Assembly resolution against his own region.

Now signatories of StopCAPO, I ask you, do you really know what CAPO is? Or are you just signing a petition taking a mere few seconds then moving on while a region is effected for a long span of time due to that simple signature. A petition that was created by someone who was in fact against his region so much he wishes to condemn it.

What is the CFN Adjudication of Penal Offenses Act? Well let me tell you what this "dreaded" CAPO situation is. Recently, a very close and high-ranking member of our community suffered a permanent punishment from the NationStates Moderators. It was very unfortunate, it made us even more conscience of the Rules of NationStates yet we strived to look towards the future and think of those who may fall victim to the same situation as our member did. CAPO does not defy NationStates Rules, instead it promotes them! Listen to my words as taken from CAPO,"Clarifying that particularly heinous crimes that violate both CFN and NS law should be dealt with to the fullest extent possible." To me that sounds no less than agreement, we support and uphold the Rules of NationStates while desiring to uphold the Laws of the Commonwealth of Free Nations.
I am also cognizant that the law states "That no nation may issue a moderation report against any Citizen [of the Commonwealth of Free Nations] except by following the procedure outlined in this law, and failure to comply with this law will result in a criminal trial against the filer of such a report." Many of you may still be up-in-arms over this, allow me to tell you why you should lower them and instead shake your fist at StopCAPO.

The law of CAPO states that,"Crimes purely technical in nature, and that are impossible to prove without moderator interference, such as crimes related to "WA multying" or hacking into another player's account, are exempt from this law, and that nations be free to report said crimes to NS moderators immediately.", we do not block Citizens for filing reports on situations like that. However when other happenings occur, before filing a report what would happen is that the accused person would face the CFN Courts, if he is found guilty then a report can be filed to the NationStates Moderators. The meaning of this law, CAPO, has no other intention than to rid of betrayal and instead it wishes to create and spark a wave of unity and honesty within our region.

If I give in to an inter-regional gathering where they are signing on a petition that pushes for the repeal of a law in another region, other than their's, I am not thinking with my own mind. When it comes down to the laws of my region, I must not think as a cosmopolitan, but as a regionalist. A regionalist puts the interests of his or her region before anything else.

This is my final decision on this topic, my opinion shall not waver anymore, I am an opponent of StopCAPO. When I tried to work with the StopCAPO community, in turn my words were twisted, misconstrued, and taken out of context. To me, this petition was founded upon lies, and continues to be fueled by lies. Do not expect my support any further with StopCAPO, instead expect the very opposite.

Now there are one of two things going through your head. One is you are now aware that CAPO is not what the propaganda of StopCAPO has made it out to be. Two is that you are possibly apathetic to the situation and you signed this petition when this law may not even pertain to you. CAPO is a safety net, I will be a supporter of it and I will help as much as I can to make it stand for as long as possible.

I would further like to add that this lengthy argument against StopCAPO was so that I could express myself formally upon how I feel about CAPO. Lastly I wish for those inter-regionally to think about your signature on here, hopefully I have convinced you or at least changed your mind slightly about it. If I did cause you to think of CAPO differently, I would request that you remove your signature. I appreciate the concern for the Commonwealth, however it is of false concern. CAPO is a safety net for the citizens of the Commonwealth, and supporters of StopCAPO wish to take this safety net away.

Thank you for your time,

The Silver Bloods

The Lord-Chancellor of the Commonwealth of Free Nations

For shame, good sir. For shame.

I will sum up this movement in one sentence.

YOU ARE MAKING MODERATION REPORTS ILLEGAL, THAT'S FUNDEMENTALLY WRONG.

Protecting citizens my foot. For instance, show me where in CFN law it says someone can't post porn on the RMB. Based on this bill, people could get away with that until a mod saw.
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Postby The Lord-Chancellor » Tue Oct 21, 2014 8:26 am

Namayapata wrote:For shame, good sir. For shame.

I will sum up this movement in one sentence.

YOU ARE MAKING MODERATION REPORTS ILLEGAL, THAT'S FUNDEMENTALLY WRONG.

Protecting citizens my foot. For instance, show me where in CFN law it says someone can't post porn on the RMB. Based on this bill, people could get away with that until a mod saw.

Let me assist you in understanding this, my argument practically disarmed everything this campaign stands for.

To answer what you are saying, it does not make moderation reports illegal. It states that you must try a fellow citizen if you wish to report him.

Also with the porn scenario, if a mod sees then he is suppressed banned and done.
Once again the law states that CFN and NS laws must be respected.

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