NationStates

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:07 pm**

Grays Harbor wrote:Mandating the title "citizen"? Yay, lets hear for a return to revolutionary France. How quaint.

I love the selective abolition of noble titles. Earls and barons apparently have nothing to worry about.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:08 pm**

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Mandating the title "citizen"? Yay, lets hear for a return to revolutionary France. How quaint.

I love the selective abolition of noble titles. Earls and barons apparently have nothing to worry about.

Kings and queens are safe. Also, if your nobility is titled "skdhbf" you have nothing to worry about.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:37 pm**

Kaboomlandia wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I love the selective abolition of noble titles. Earls and barons apparently have nothing to worry about.

Kings and queens are safe. Also, if your nobility is titled "skdhbf" you have nothing to worry about.

I attribute that list to a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:42 pm**

Kaboomlandia wrote:One believes that man should be born with equal opportunities, with no advantage being given to those with or without titles. Every man should be allowed to achieve their full potential in society, no matter if they are a member of the working class, or the upper class. Ones growth should be based on their own abilities to achieve.
...
Signed,
Emperor Newbold I

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:45 pm**

Grays Harbor wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Kings and queens are safe. Also, if your nobility is titled "skdhbf" you have nothing to worry about.

I attribute that list to a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.

And of course how someone from "central" must prove their "ability"... Ability to do what exactly? The ability to win a wrestling match? My Emperor can easily do that to any challenger...

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:57 pm**

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Mandating the title "citizen"? Yay, lets hear for a return to revolutionary France. How quaint.

I love the selective abolition of noble titles. Earls and barons apparently have nothing to worry about.

And if you read carefully, it should come as no surprise as to why "Emperor" was left out.

Posted: **Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:27 pm**

Flibbleites wrote:
The Two Jerseys wrote:I love the selective abolition of noble titles. Earls and barons apparently have nothing to worry about.

And if you read carefully, it should come as no surprise as to why "Emperor" was left out.

That makes it makes even less sense...

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:52 am**

Creation of a WA Chancellor

A resolution to improve world security by boosting police and military budgets.

Category: Category: International Security | Strength: Strong | Proposed by: Palpatine1986 Reborn

Description: Description: [sic] Every great organization needs an authority figure. The United States has a president, the United Nations has a secretary general, the Roman Empire before the ceasars had consuls, and thus I propose the creation of a leader of the NationStates World Assembly called the Supreme Chancellor.

Argument: ACKNOWLEDGING that an organization needs leadership;

UNDERSTANDING that the moderators of NS would be able to override the Chancellors decisions if needed;

REMINDING that for the World Assembly to adequately meet the needs of members a chancellor is needed;

FURTHER REMINDING that the position would be voted on every three months with a simple majority installing the chancellor to his/her term;

FURTHER REMINDING that a unanimous decision by the Security Council can remove a chancellor from officer early if deemed necessary;

RECOGNIZING that such a change to Nationstates will take time and discussion;

REALIZING that despite the time requirements to implement such a change, the change is worth the ordeal;

HOPING that the nations of the world and the website moderators will see the value in this proposal;

HEREBY let us create the position of chancellor of the world assembly

A nation called Palpatine arguing an organization needs strong centralised leadership. What could possibly go wrong?

Well, aside from not knowing what the word "remind" means, it ticks just about every major illegality: trying to change the game through WA proposals, category violation, RL references. The WA doesn't have a Security Council nor for the proposed voting on candidates. The cherry on top: the proposal never says what the Chancellor actually does.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:59 am**

Grays Harbor wrote:Mandating the title "citizen"? Yay, lets hear for a return to revolutionary France. How quaint.

I for one would welcome the title of "citizen".

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:04 am**

Imperializt Russia wrote:
Grays Harbor wrote:Mandating the title "citizen"? Yay, lets hear for a return to revolutionary France. How quaint.

I for one would welcome the title of "citizen".

How nice for you. So have a new placard made for the door to your office here reflecting that. The rest of us would prefer not to me saddled with mandatory phoney egalitarianism.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:57 am**

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: hadrac_1427291051

Compulsory Vaccination

A resolution to modify universal standards of healthcare.

Category: Health

Area of Effect: Healthcare

Proposed by: Hadrac

Description: Acknowledging: Viruses are a leading cause of disease.
Note: this could be prevented easily if everyone was vaccinated
Proposition: We force all people to have vaccinations for their children to prevent viruses from spreading and causing death

Approvals: 0

Status: Lacking Support (requires 87 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 2 hours

No operative clause, ideological ban, metagaming.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 7:15 am**

It has an operative clause, it's not an ideological ban, and it's not metagaming.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:25 am**

It's not even bloody stupid, really.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 9:30 am**

Greater Louisistan wrote:It's not even bloody stupid, really.

If it's illegal at all, it's probably a category thing - Bioethics rather than Healthcare? - but given Health is a new category it seems a tad harsh to dump it here when none of us really know how those areas of effect break down.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:10 am**

Vaccines don't even work on viruses, making his entire argument moot.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:28 am**

Kaboomlandia wrote:Vaccines don't even work on viruses

Right. Apart from measles, mumps, rubella, flu, hepatitis A, hepatitis B, hepatitis E, polio, rabies, yellow fever, TBE, VZV, HPV, rotavirus enteritis, Japanese encephalitus.

Dude, just...stop.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:29 am**

Kaboomlandia wrote:Vaccines don't even work on viruses, making his entire argument moot.

Vaccines do work on viruses. Its kind of their main thing.
You may be thinking of antibiotics. Which are different things.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:45 pm**

Democratic Elections Act

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Yoneldia

Description: THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY,

NOTING that the citizens of countries with democratic elections tend to be freer,

RECOGNIZING the natural right of every human to freedom,

RECALLING its purpose of improving the world one resolution at a time,

DEFINES the following terms:

1. "Voting age" - the age at which the right to vote is gained as determined by each member state's law,
2. "Voter" - any citizen with the right to vote,
3. "Free" - there shall be no threat to any voter by any contestant,
4. "Fair" - there shall be no incentive to any voter by any contestant,
5. "Elections" - a contest in which two or more contestants compete over the leadership of a member state and in which the winner is determined by the number of votes received by each contestant, as determined by each member state's law,

MANDATES that:
1. Each member state of the World Assembly hold free and fair elections at least once in ten years,
2. The voters in said elections be all citizens over the voting age,
3. The voting age do not exceed twenty,
4. The votes be counted by an impartial World Assembly official.

Ideological Ban. Bans dictatorships.Illegal.
And duplication of the Elections and Assistance Act, GAR#130.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 1:25 pm**

Old Hope wrote:
Democratic Elections Act

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Yoneldia

Description: THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY,

NOTING that the citizens of countries with democratic elections tend to be freer,

RECOGNIZING the natural right of every human to freedom,

RECALLING its purpose of improving the world one resolution at a time,

DEFINES the following terms:

1. "Voting age" - the age at which the right to vote is gained as determined by each member state's law,
2. "Voter" - any citizen with the right to vote,
3. "Free" - there shall be no threat to any voter by any contestant,
4. "Fair" - there shall be no incentive to any voter by any contestant,
5. "Elections" - a contest in which two or more contestants compete over the leadership of a member state and in which the winner is determined by the number of votes received by each contestant, as determined by each member state's law,

MANDATES that:
1. Each member state of the World Assembly hold free and fair elections at least once in ten years,
2. The voters in said elections be all citizens over the voting age,
3. The voting age do not exceed twenty,
4. The votes be counted by an impartial World Assembly official.

Ideological Ban. Bans dictatorships.Illegal.
And duplication of the Elections and Assistance Act, GAR#130.

On the plus side, it doesn't state elections for what, as it assumes every nation will conclude they MUST have a presidential election to mirror the US. To be in compliance with this dreck a nation need only hold a single election once every ten years, for example, for the post of Assistant Sanitation Engineer.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:09 pm**

Defwa wrote:
Kaboomlandia wrote:Vaccines don't even work on viruses, making his entire argument moot.

Vaccines do work on viruses. Its kind of their main thing.
You may be thinking of antibiotics. Which are different things.

That's what I was thinking of. My bad

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:12 pm**

GENERAL ASSEMBLY PROPOSAL
ID: dakota_prime_1427300473

Repeal "Sensible Limits on Hunting"

A resolution to repeal previously passed legislation.

Category: Repeal

Resolution: GA#267

Proposed by: Dakota Prime

Description: WA General Assembly Resolution #267: Sensible Limits on Hunting (Category: Moral Decency; Strength: Mild) shall be struck out and rendered null and void.

Argument: Argument: The World Assembly,

Acknowledging the effort of General Assembly Resolution #267 "Sensible Limits on Hunting" to create a level of regulatory restraints for humane hunting practices.

Concerned #267 "Requires all member nations to regulate hunting within their borders, according to relevant expert advice, so as to keep the animal stocks involved at sustainable and environmentally suitable levels ", but does not state where that "expert" opinion should come from. Obviously, the expert that is paid by the "National Hunting Association" or the "Fisherman's Union" may pose a biased opinion on whether or not the stock levels are renewable and viable to support the current level of hunting.

Further concerned that #267 clause 3 urges nations to set their own quotas. Certain species of fowl, whale, and fish migrate great distances and while one nation is allowed to set a quota to hunt on their nations land, this could affect the ecosystem of another nation.

Hereby repeals "GENERAL ASSEMBLY RESOLUTION # 267 Sensible Limits on Hunting".

Approvals: 1 (Austrombolia)

Status: Lacking Support (requires 86 more approvals)

Voting Ends: in 3 days 6 hours

The "National Hunting Association" does not exist in the resolution, nor in NS.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:17 pm**

Old Hope wrote:
Democratic Elections Act

A resolution to increase democratic freedoms.

Category: Furtherment of Democracy

Strength: Strong

Proposed by: Yoneldia

Description: THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY,

NOTING that the citizens of countries with democratic elections tend to be freer,

RECOGNIZING the natural right of every human to freedom,

RECALLING its purpose of improving the world one resolution at a time,

DEFINES the following terms:

1. "Voting age" - the age at which the right to vote is gained as determined by each member state's law,
2. "Voter" - any citizen with the right to vote,
3. "Free" - there shall be no threat to any voter by any contestant,
4. "Fair" - there shall be no incentive to any voter by any contestant,
5. "Elections" - a contest in which two or more contestants compete over the leadership of a member state and in which the winner is determined by the number of votes received by each contestant, as determined by each member state's law,

MANDATES that:
1. Each member state of the World Assembly hold free and fair elections at least once in ten years,
2. The voters in said elections be all citizens over the voting age,
3. The voting age do not exceed twenty,
4. The votes be counted by an impartial World Assembly official.

Ideological Ban. Bans dictatorships.Illegal.
And duplication of the Elections and Assistance Act, GAR#130.

Technically, this doesn't require elections for Head of State, or even government office. Could be for Silliest Pants. I always liked that loophole.

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:20 pm**

Separatist Peoples wrote:
Old Hope wrote:Ideological Ban. Bans dictatorships.Illegal.
And duplication of the Elections and Assistance Act, GAR#130.

Technically, this doesn't require elections for Head of State, or even government office. Could be for Silliest Pants. I always liked that loophole.

I think you missed this:

5. "Elections" - a contest in which two or more contestants compete over the leadership of a member state and in which the winner is determined by the number of votes received by each contestant, as determined by each member state's law,

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:05 pm**

Grays Harbor wrote:
Old Hope wrote:Ideological Ban. Bans dictatorships.Illegal.
And duplication of the Elections and Assistance Act, GAR#130.

On the plus side, it doesn't state elections for what, as it assumes every nation will conclude they MUST have a presidential election to mirror the US. To be in compliance with this dreck a nation need only hold a single election once every ten years, for example, for the post of Assistant Sanitation Engineer.

I'd like to know what the voting age can't exceed twenty of. Minutes? Decades? Millennia?

Posted: **Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:18 pm**

Old Hope wrote:
Separatist Peoples wrote:
Technically, this doesn't require elections for Head of State, or even government office. Could be for Silliest Pants. I always liked that loophole.

I think you missed this:
5. "Elections" - a contest in which two or more contestants compete over the leadership of a member state and in which the winner is determined by the number of votes received by each contestant, as determined by each member state's law,

Then it really qualifies as the crappiest definition of "election" ever.

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