[DEFEATED] Condemn Royal Lagrangian

[Wrapper]

As for those here in the thread who claimed they received seven telegrams? That's rather disconcerting.

I counted four, including two from the author, all pre-queue asking for approval.

[Wallenburg]

As for those here in the thread who claimed they received seven telegrams? That's rather disconcerting.

I counted four, including two from the author, all pre-queue asking for approval.

I only got three. I must be blessed.

[Sedgistan]

Shut up falvanize, you threatened to destroy TURA, and we banned you for that, you aren't an angel

Knock it off.

[Jersey Republic]

Shut up falvanize, you threatened to destroy TURA, and we banned you for that, you aren't an angel

Knock it off.

Alright

[Wrapper]

As for those here in the thread who claimed they received seven telegrams? That's rather disconcerting.

I counted four, including two from the author, all pre-queue asking for approval.

I should clarify: Of the four, three asked for approval, one asked not to approve it.

[We Couldnt Agree On A Name]

I feel left out. I only got one telegram.

[Talvezout]

I feel left out. I only got one telegram.

I didn't even get any, and this is coming from someone who's region has been affected by Lag.

[We Are Not the NSA]

I feel left out. I only got one telegram.

I didn't even get any, and this is coming from someone who's region has been affected by Lag.

I think they were mostly sent to delegates.

[Goddess Relief Office]

I have a question: has Lagrangian actually destroyed a region that they were not the founder of?

He attempted to.

One of his puppet nations The Royal Mustard infiltrated the Coalition during the founding....

So save for that 1 region, all the rest were regions he founded?

I'm not sure we should be condemning bad/irresponsible founders because look around, they are a dime a dozen.

[North Francia (Ancient)]

I have a question: has Lagrangian actually destroyed a region that they were not the founder of?

He attempted to.

One of his puppet nations The Royal Mustard infiltrated the Coalition during the founding....

So save for that 1 region, all the rest were regions he founded?

I'm not sure we should be condemning bad/irresponsible founders because look around, they are a dime a dozen.

The Congress of Sovereign Nations (which has become defunct because of these "New Wolf Order" invaders), United Region States, and Coalition of Free Governments are three regions he did not found. The most he's done in the URS is harassment but the Coalition is the one he's successfully taken over for a short time in a coup, though the region was reclaimed. While We agree that condemning an irresponsible leader isn't worth the effort of a condemnation or the SC's time, it was an attempt to condemn him for other actions.

Looking at the input from others, the situation may have been solved in another manner; but, there's no dealing diplomatically with Lagrangian. We've tried but it never got anywhere, so some members of the government felt that the Condemn option was the last recourse.

OOC speaking: How do we even know that a GHR is being handled? Do we receive any word on if the issue was resolved or something?

[Nukevegas]

It has been proven that Lagrangian has used puppets in the past, whats to stop them from using puppets to get the condemnation dropped I just want some of you to take that into consideration. Personally I think this tyrant shoud be held resposible for his crimes against Nation States.

[We Are Not the NSA]

It has been proven that Lagrangian has used puppets in the past, whats to stop them from using puppets to get the condemnation dropped I just want some of you to take that into consideration. Personally I think this tyrant shoud be held resposible for his crimes against Nation States.

I'm a bit confused about what you are implying. Are you accusing Lagranian of using puppets to make this proposal fail? If so, you should post any evidence you have so we can review it. If you don't that means your speculating, which is not a valid argument.

[Wallenburg]

It has been proven that Lagrangian has used puppets in the past, whats to stop them from using puppets to get the condemnation dropped I just want some of you to take that into consideration. Personally I think this tyrant shoud be held resposible for his crimes against Nation States.

I highly doubt that he would make thousands of puppets. I highly doubt that the game wouldn't notice that. It notices when my brother and I accidently log into the same computer once every six or so months. I think it would catch a massive puppet machine.

Either way, the opposition to this resolution is well-founded. The text of this resolution is terrible, and it needs huge amounts of work to even be worth consideration. Right now it is only partially comprehensible.

[Wrapper]

It has been proven that Lagrangian has used puppets in the past, whats to stop them from using puppets to get the condemnation dropped I just want some of you to take that into consideration. Personally I think this tyrant shoud be held resposible for his crimes against Nation States.

Okay, seriously? The delegates of 10000 Islands, The Pacific, Europeia, The East Pacific, The West Pacific and The South Pacific have all voted against. That's over 2000 votes right there. And, I think it's, umm, not very likely that they are all puppets of "this tyrant" as you refer to him.

[Paffnia]

As for those here in the thread who claimed they received seven telegrams? That's rather disconcerting.

I counted four, including two from the author, all pre-queue asking for approval.

They were all pre-queue, with three coming in the final half hour or so as it came down to the wire.

The Matriarchy of The Royal Lagrangian

Please support this:

page=UN_view_proposal/id=the_royal_lagrangian_1452038062

The Kingdom of Ostdeutschlandet

Greetings everyone,

This telegram is written to request your support of the proposal to Condemn The Royal Lagrangian. The Royal Lagrangian is currently engaged in a war with the region Coalition of Free Governments, seemingly without the consent of the regional government. The past and present actions of this nation are tyrannical and his unilateral actions deserve condemnation. There have been many times that our region and the Coalition have desired to be left alone. However Lagrangian does not cease in a relentless attempt to destroy the Coalition. This proposal was generated in defense and yet the attacks continue.

For the sake of those who act for the sake of freedom against tyrants and despots, please approve of this condemnation proposal. Should the proposal pass, we ask again for your vote of approval when the time comes.

Thank you for your time and consideration, honorable delegates.

-Ostdeutschlandet

The Matriarchy of The Royal Lagrangian

Hello there am telegramming you again today to inform you that you have been asked to approve a proposal to "Condemn The Royal Lagrangian" that is full of lies and does not not have one peace of evidence against there claims, they are only doing this because they seek to destroy my region and steal away my members for there own gain.

All those regions they have listen saying I destroyed is a lie as well, the region "The Congress of Sovereign Nations" the founder CTE that's why the region died and United Nations Commonwealth died due to there spamming on the RMB witch if you look back you will see that, United Nations Commonwealth merged with us hoping that "The Congress of Sovereign Nations" would stop the spamming and now there attacking us.

Now they have sent a puppet into Den the invader region to try and get them to invade us.

I ask you to please do not approve this lying proposal as they will just keep doing it to the next region and the one after that.

Thank you for your time.

The Kingdom of Ostdeutschlandet

Honorable Delegates,

For those of you who have supported the proposal Condemn The Royal Lagrangian we thank you for your support. For those who are undecided, we ask for your ear once more in requesting your support for approval of this.

You may have seen the telegram where Royal Lagrangian has stated that the United Nations Commonwealth. Nexatium's spamming is not an excusable act. It was settled by mods, but this is not about that. This is about Lagrangian's tyrannical actions. Unfortunately, the evidence of this has been lost because the region where all this occurred, the defunct "The United Nations Commonwealth" region, has been lost in a coverup by Lagrangian, who is the owner of the United Nations Commonwealth Founder. Lagrangian declared the region "dead" over a debate against the ban free policy of the region because it did not end quickly. He also declared the region dead because members of the government (who outside of NS may have things to do) did not act within Lagrangian's very short timetable.

If the Security Council condemns raider regions, then they may also condemn a nation who forms multiple regions and manipulates the populace and/or betrays the trust nations put in Lagrangian as a founder by acting as a tyrant. Lagrangian's accusation of an alliance with DEN is baseless at best. The nation in question is also known to use puppets to advance their agenda.

The following links are screencapped messages from Royal Lagrangian:
http://www.imgur.com/a/KyUQn - Set of telegrams sent to Zexinum
imgur.com/gallery/j7igLrB/new - A message from Lagrangian showing use of puppet regions as moles
imgur.com/WC3T1YF - A telegram sent to Elysian Accord from the most recently exposed puppet
i.imgur.com/uhYRHFY.png - An RMB message with grammar and spelling fitting Lagrangian's profile with an admission of his guilt and threat against the region. This may be viewed in the Coalition's RMB
imgur.com/MG3U4F9 - This sad telegram trying to get us to back away, as we interpret it

Once again, honorable delegates, for those of you who may be thinking of supporting this proposal, we ask for your approval. Should we achieve quorum, we ask for your vote of approval on the resolution itself.

Thank you for your time and consideration. For those supporting us currently, we once again offer you our sincerest gratitude.

-Ostdeutschlandet

The Republic of Bronium

Hello fellow WA Delegate,

We ask that you please support this WA Resolution: Condemn the Royal Lagrangian. It only has two more hours on the floor and will need only six more approvals. If this proposal does not get to the main body of the WA, a ruthless tyrant will be allowed to prosper. So, please, for the sake of NationStates, approve the brazen condemnation! Hurry, though!

Kind regards,
The Republic of Bronium

I received two copies of this.

The People's Republic of Liberty Ashes

Please help this security council come to a vote with this issue we only have 7 minutes left and need just 2 more votes so all of the WA can vote on this security council issue

[The Royal Lagrangian]

I only have 1 wa nation those guys will try anything to bully others, am getting really sick of this and this childish region who clearly cant leave me alone. I have already had to report them for harassment.

I would like to thank all those regions who voted against the personal vendetta proposal against me.

[Vancouvia]

I only have 1 wa nation those guys will try anything to bully others, am getting really sick of this and this childish region who clearly cant leave me alone. I have already had to report them for harassment.

I would like to thank all those regions who voted against the personal vendetta proposal against me.

you're welcome

[Sternberg]

I only have 1 wa nation those guys will try anything to bully others, am getting really sick of this and this childish region who clearly cant leave me alone. I have already had to report them for harassment.

I would like to thank all those regions who voted against the personal vendetta proposal against me.

Mild FYI, but I didn't vote against this for you, TRL. Hopefully, whatever is going on between the two regions can get sorted out in time, but I doubt this is the place to do so at this present time.

Nonetheless, you're welcome, all the same.

[Jersey Republic]

I only have 1 wa nation those guys will try anything to bully others, am getting really sick of this and this childish region who clearly cant leave me alone. I have already had to report them for harassment.

I would like to thank all those regions who voted against the personal vendetta proposal against me.

Send another request, EKOS said they're sorry. We can give you a second chance

[Imperium Anglorum]

A minor non-issue remains a minor non-issue. I can't really say I'm surprised.

[Wrapper]

"Condemn The Royal Lagrangian" was defeated 9,512 votes to 4,223.

[Jersey Republic]

Lag threatened to invade us again when we let in some new players. Oh the irony